Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented outrage, history being made

2011-03-10 Thread peatbog
http://www.youtube.com/user/OrionworksVideos?feature=mhum#p/u In the dark of the night, without notice to the public, without any debate, without even printing copies of the bill, 18 Republicans used procedural trickery to strip hundreds of thousands of workers in Wisconsin of their

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented outrage, history being made

2011-03-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Peatbog: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrionworksVideos?feature=mhum#p/u In the dark of the night, without notice to the public, without any debate, without even printing copies of the bill, 18 Republicans used procedural trickery to strip hundreds of thousands of workers in

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented outrage, history being made

2011-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven: Don't fret about it too much. There will be another election. That which is done legislatively can be undone. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented out...

2011-03-10 Thread LORENHEYER
Yeah, its the communist way or the Hi-way for America. Don't worry tho, because the day is approaching when your kind pay the ultimate price for letting this country be turned into a Dictator Ruled enslaved hellhole. Good riddens. /HTML

[Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153 If you thought Rossi was the only wild-eyed Italian on the fringes of physics with an earth shattering discovery, think again. These guys even have mainstream credentials, no? Their earlier paper was roundly criticized for technique, but not disproved. This one

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented outrage, history being made

2011-03-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Jed: Steven: Don't fret about it too much. There will be another election. That which is done legislatively can be undone. That is what we aim to do, Jed. The sooner the better. Recall efforts are now underway. BTW, I'm reminded of something Peatbog recently stated: I am pleased the

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented outrage, history being made

2011-03-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:38 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Let this be a lesson to everyone on the matter that when voter turnout becomes apathetic we open the door for the installation of dictators and puppet regimes. Amen, Steven. I have always

RE: [Vo]:extending the Puthoff atomic model

2011-03-10 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
Hi Francis! Could you e-mail me a copy or link to Hal's paper that you are referring to. Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:02:54 -0500 From: francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:extending the Puthoff atomic model In off line collaboration and discussions with Scott Smith we

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented ou...

2011-03-10 Thread LORENHEYER
To the Liberally Unstable. You,,, yes you! the so-called people of this country, who continually construe and/or have lost the meaning of what True Freedom is... listen up!. Over the many years, you have allowed yourself into believing you should have your cake and eat it too, and are

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented out...

2011-03-10 Thread LORENHEYER
Please, forward to the Liberally Unstable. You,,, yes you! the so-called people of this country, who continually construe and/or have lost the meaning of what True Freedom is... listen up!. Over the many years, you have allowed yourself into believing you should have your cake and eat it

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Here is a slide showing of some their earlier  work showing how crushing granite produces neutrons. Some nice graphs which plot neutron counts against mechanical loading. http://files.splinder.com/4ae1443c64aa2e0faf9cdca00d8e7148.pdf The crushing load is coincident with a momentary spike in

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented out...

2011-03-10 Thread Esa Ruoho
All we need is for him to tout a new Free Energy invention donated to him by The Dwellers of The Fifth Density and channeled to him by The Cosmic Christ-Energy. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:39 PM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote: Please, forward to the Liberally Unstable. You,,, yes you! the Your

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented out...

2011-03-10 Thread peatbog
Please, forward to the Liberally Unstable. You,,, yes you! the so-called people of this country, who continually construe CALLING BILL BEATTY!! This OT stuff is getting out of hand.

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented out...

2011-03-10 Thread albedo5
Loren, I bet you're a huge fan of tea. Methinks you have stumbled into the wrong group here. Perhaps the blinders are not allowing you to see the very well-marked door. Debbie On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:39 PM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote: Please, forward to the Liberally Unstable. snip

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: Here is a slide showing of some their earlier work showing how crushing granite produces neutrons. Steve Jones (BYU) did experiments looking for neutrons while Portland cement made with heavy water set (dried). I think I recall they or someone else tried crushing it,

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented out...

2011-03-10 Thread albedo5
I totally agree. On Mar 10, 2011 2:10 PM, peatbog peat...@teksavvy.com wrote: Please, forward to the Liberally Unstable. You,,, yes you! the so-called people of this country, who continually construe CALLING BILL BEATTY!! This OT stuff is getting out of hand.

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
By the way, Carpinteri (Cardone's colleague) was at ICCF15 and 16. Here is the abstract from ICCF-16: Neutron Emission Measurements During Loading Tests on Solid Specimens and Confirmations by EDS Analysis A.Carpinteri1, G. Lacidogna1, A. Manuello1 and O. Borla,2 1Politecnico di Torino,

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
If I recall Frank Grimer’s calculations of the Casimir force, it can amount to much higher loading than what is applied to the granite in this paper. The neutron level is over 6 time background on failure according to Cardone. The results are hard to argue with. The problem I have with this

Re: [Vo]:Anticipating skeptical objections to a 1 MW demonstration

2011-03-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 4 Mar 2011 06:55:09 -0800: Hi, [snip] In trying to look at it from Rossi's POV, the cascade was the only rationale which made logical sense to me - as to why he would go 100+ modular units. [snip] Multiple reports exist of varying power output from the

Re: [Vo]:Anticipating skeptical objections to a 1 MW demonstration

2011-03-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Dennis's message of Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:57:50 -0700: Hi, [snip] I had the feeling that the heating was by directly passing the current through the metal bed - that would make for very fast transfer. I doubt it because there are 5 controllers for the device. If the current were passed

Re: [Vo]:Off Topic: Wisconsin Republican Senators create an unprecedented out...

2011-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
My suggestion to the unions is to shift their focus and support broader efforts like this: http://robinhoodtax.org/latest/good-news-meps-back-robin-hood-tax#comment-673 Harry From: albedo5 albe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 2:09:12 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Off

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Kidwell told he suspects these results might be caused from vibration when the block of marble fractured. Neutron detectors are sensitive and tend to be triggered by various artifacts such as vibrations. He recommended they try hitting the floor with a sledge hammer while the detector is

RE: [Vo]:Anticipating skeptical objections to a 1 MW demonstration

2011-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to Jones Beene's message In trying to look at it from Rossi's POV, the cascade was the only rationale which made logical sense to me - as to why he would go 100+ modular units. Multiple reports exist of varying power output from

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: Essentially they did do that. When marble was crushed no spike in neutrons was seen. If it was just due to vibrations in the detector then crushing marble would have produced a spike in neutrons too. Marble was the control? So I should have said when the block of granite

[Vo]:This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat

2011-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat   http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3123849.ece   link from  New Energy Times portal on Rossi's ECat.   Harry

Re: [Vo]:This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat

2011-03-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3123849.ece link from  New Energy Times portal on Rossi's ECat. He also claims that more than a thousand reactors have

Re: [Vo]:This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat

2011-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3123849.ece link from New Energy Times portal on Rossi's ECat. Wow. He is paying his last 500,000 Euros to U. Bologna. He could get all the venture capital in the

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Both snips below from the Cardone paper seem to support a relativistic interpretation. The odd property of radiation measured and these bubbles of gas that take 40- 50 minutes to scale down into these tiny Zones of deformed space time would as a result appear fractional to us in normal

Re: [Vo]:This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat

2011-03-10 Thread Dennis
He needs 100 of them and he has built and destroyed more than a thousand. Does this mean that his successful reproducibility is less than 10% D2 -- From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat

Re: [Vo]:This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat

2011-03-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Dennis den...@netmdc.com wrote: He needs 100 of them and he has built and destroyed more than a thousand. Does this mean that his successful reproducibility is less than 10% Dennis, I think that it took that many iterations to find the correct combination to

RE: [Vo]:This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat

2011-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
Leading one to wonder if he has caught the Mark LeClair syndrome ... -Original Message- From: Dennis He needs 100 of them and he has built and destroyed more than a thousand. Does this mean that his successful reproducibility is less than 10% D2

Re: [Vo]:This is how Rossi is financing his E-cat

2011-03-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:24 PM 3/10/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Wow. He is paying his last 500,000 Euros to U. Bologna. He could get all the venture capital in the world for a small fraction of his invention! That's curious : in there he says “I am assuming all the risks. No one is risking any money except

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
I also liked his final sentence - call it tidal fission? [snip]Since these transmutations are thought to be brought about by spacetime deformation, it is possible that a heavy nuclide be ripped apart into lighter nuclides by tidal forces i.e., in more picturesque way, as an astronaut would be

[Vo]:nucleosynthesis is a more general term then fusion

2011-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
I think the second footnote in the Cardone paper http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153 ,which Jones cited, provides a solution to the kerfuffle around the proper use of the term fusion:   2The words fission and fusion have been used here. However, it is becoming evident that the outcomes of these

Re: [Vo]:Latest Rossi news at PESN

2011-03-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Nick Palmer's message of Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:27:09 -: Hi Nick, [snip] Robin wrote: ..Well maybe not quite. The problem with this is that the general public only understands one kind of nuclear. I'm afraid that educating them in the subtleties is going to take a while. Do we know