If I recall Frank Grimer’s calculations of the Casimir force, it can amount to 
much higher loading than what is applied to the granite in this paper. The 
neutron level is over 6 time background on failure according to Cardone. The 
results are hard to argue with.

 

The problem I have with this experiment is that did not mention the fact that 
granite and marble can contain substantial amounts of thorium and uranium and 
the ‘daughters’ (or decay chain) going back millions of years. Are the neutrons 
seen coming from those elements when stressed, or from silicon/calcium/etc when 
stressed, or only from the ‘daughters’?

 

There are implications. Rossi is seeing no neutrons. We can be pretty sure of 
that as a sensitive meter was used. Rossi has probably recognized the need for 
a dielectric support for what he calls “nanometric nickel” which he thinks is 
the active material. The support used in almost 100% of recent LENR 
experiments, thanks to Arata, is zirconia. That does not meant that Rossi used 
it, but there is an indication.

 

We do not know for sure that there are Casimir cavities involved in the support 
material however. That is where my views depart from almost everyone else. I 
think that there are “unplanned” cavities, for several reasons. Zirconia 
undergoes catastrophic failure at phase change unless ‘doped’ usually with 
yttria. 

 

Neutrons would apparently be expected in the Rossi device - if there were both 
Casimir cavities and thorium, and Cardone’s results applied. 

 

Therefore, one important implication of all of these clues, taken together, is: 
does this lack of neutrons in Bologna eliminate thorium as the best candidate 
for the  ‘support’ dielectric ? 

 

If it were not for that problem, it would be the best candidate. Yes, we are 
still grasping at straws, but in the end, there will be new physics – so why 
not unburden oneself of the excess baggage?

 

Jones

 

 

From: Harry Veeder 

Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

 

Here is a slide showing of some their earlier  work showing how crushing 
granite produces neutrons. 

Some nice graphs which plot neutron counts against mechanical loading.

http://files.splinder.com/4ae1443c64aa2e0faf9cdca00d8e7148.pdf

 

The crushing load is coincident with a momentary spike in neutrons.

 

 

harry  

 

From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:11:00 AM
Subject: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

 <http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153> http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153

If you thought Rossi was the only wild-eyed Italian on the fringes of physics 
with an earth shattering discovery, think again. 

These guys even have mainstream credentials, no? 

Their earlier paper was roundly criticized for technique, but not disproved. 
This one will be even more divisive, so to speak.

Is this related in any way to Rossi? Maybe it was premature to write-off an 
ultrasound input in the Rossi E-cat (especially if thermistors are being used). 

After all, I have been told that ultrasound in a gas-filled powder would not be 
audible, as it would be if there was a liquid fill.

The now Italian Renaissance …  il rinascimento seconda parte !?!

 

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