Re: [Vo]:Discover article about cold fusion

2012-10-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
2012/10/19 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com Of course, we must always remember that theory precedes phenomenon. Irony I hope? Real I'm afraid. In fact sure Real, I observed many times. But since there is no peer-reviewed theory for that decadence of science it should be non existent. ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Potential Rossi Patent Battle

2012-10-19 Thread Axil Axil
yes On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:58 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Axil, Is the Focus Fusion Society (URL: http://focusfusion.org/) what you're referring to? -- Lou Pagnucco See

[Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, Today, an official announcement about test results was posted on the Defkalion GT forum: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=4143 As previously promised, we are attaching two files that contain a signed protocol and a preliminary report by one independent

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Craig Haynie
Test Results: Defkalion demonstrated 1 COP of accumulated total energy output divided by accumulated total energy input (exact total COP will be provided in final report) Defkalion demonstrated control of reaction (start, stop, increase, decrease) Defkalion demonstrated a reaction output

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-19 14:12, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Exec Sum of Defkalion Test Review - Sept 2012.pdf [52.49 KiB] http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=31 By the way, I wonder if the way DGT blacked out some information in the pdf above was *very* weak on purpose. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-19 14:12, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Today, an official announcement about test results was posted on the Defkalion GT forum: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=4143 Two videos have been added: Explanation of the calorimetry set-up:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
Names of the testers and the organizations they represent are still under strict NDAs and have therefore been removed from the attached documents. Defkalion will not disclose names. http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=27t=749p=2692#p2692 My opinion is such, but I'm not expert, just trusting

[Vo]:FW: Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of prior art, and patents, in recent threads here ... and looking at page 10 of the DGT report, their device seems to clearly be employing the teachings of: http://www.google.com/patents/US20110233061? Compare the drawings of the reactors. The patent drawing is almost identical to

Re: [Vo]:FW: Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
as an exercise of young patent reader, after david French course I will try to explain why I think it is not infringing. http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FrenchDpatentsand.pdf If David French can check my homework it is not nanopowder of 3-20nm but micrometer nickel foam as david french

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-19 14:12, Akira Shirakawa wrote: 2012-09-07_Test Report Validation_Signed_No Names.pdf [3.52 MiB] http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=30 An earlier version with names of this test report has been posted on ecatnews.com, pulled from the browser cache of a user

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
what a security tragedy... hopeful it is not Afghan war infiltrated agents list. only the big boss of NASA might feel uncomfortable (yet happy secretly, that they will be heroes soon, after bloody insults by the mainstream scientists). 2012/10/19 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com On

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-19 17:17, Akira Shirakawa wrote: http://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2012-09-07_Test-protocol-signed.pdf On page 18: Test observer, Michael Nelson, was asked to come in lieu of Micheal Melich due to Dr. Melich's current constraints [...] Michael Melich is on Rossi's

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
maybe are the current constraints the fact that he is in the e-cat board...??? about Rossi, clear that he is lying all the time... on COP theoretically limited to 6 on RFG needed on DGT having nothing probably on sales and delivery of MW e-cats... add to that his errors, that he does not admit...

RE: [Vo]:FW: Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Jones Beene
Are you in touch with David? He seems to have a genuine interest in the field - so why no ask for his opinion directly? Of course, he is located in Canada, but that is where DGT hopes to be located in the future, so he may not want to comment - in the event that they would seek his services.

Re: [Vo]:FW: Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
I have no specific relation whith him, even if I appreciate greatly his course on patent (yet I miss much of it probably). Opinion from him, as he already have studied Brillouin patent, would be great. 2012/10/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Are you in touch with David? He seems to have

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: · Explanation of the calorimetry set-up: (uploading in progress) · Triggering the reaction: (uploading in progress) · Explanation of the calorimetry set-up:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Just like Rossi --- last signature box on the main report : On behalf of [Redacted] The customer? Dr. Michael Melich

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:01 AM 10/19/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Unfortunately, the result is only that it SUGGESTS a COP of 1 Since Defkalion specs have COP in the 20-30 range this seems rather disappointing. The blog goes on to say : The objective of this test was to get only COP1.1 with a noise to

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Gee, Jed, did you set up that flow calorimeter? :-) Not me! I don't do secret tests. I don't sign NDAs. If you don't want the world to know, I don't want to hear about it. I have no objection to people keeping secrets, but I do not want to hear those

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Mint Candy
Latest News: For easy HTML format see botton of http://lenr.scienceontheweb.net/ where breaking news referenced. Ahern, Santilli, Rossi, Zeocat, Thkeory, Videos and more. M.

Re: [Vo]:Discover article about cold fusion

2012-10-19 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/10/19 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com Of course, we must always remember that theory precedes phenomenon. Irony I hope? Real I'm afraid. In fact sure Real, I observed many times. But since there is no

Re: [Vo]:How long?

2012-10-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: The only thing standing between Rossi and global domination of the energy market is Rossi himself. Assuming he is right, and not a faker. I trust I do not need to add that caveat every time, for this audience. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-19 Thread David Roberson
I decided to perform an experiment where less current was flowing into my cell. I noted that 1 ampere of current still demonstrated sparks once the electrolyte had mostly boiled away. The earlier experiments were using 2 or 3 amps so I was curious if a threshold effect was present. The

Re: [Vo]:WLT Disproof

2012-10-19 Thread James Bowery
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: ... One needs very many particles to describe collective effects. In the model wave functions of Ciuchi et al there are no metallic hydrides, there are no cathodes and there are no chemical batteries. Employing a wave function

Re: [Vo]:WLT Disproof

2012-10-19 Thread fznidarsic
Once again you need to read my papers. http://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals-Papers/Author/913/Frank,%20Znidarsic%20(new) Frank Znidarsic Carver Mead -Original Message- From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Oct 19, 2012 9:19 pm

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-19 Thread Eric Walker
Le Oct 19, 2012 à 4:34 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com a écrit : I still believe that this effect is of a chemical nature and not LENR. I wonder if the concentration of heat within a small volume is causing the carbonate to decompose and escape. There exists the possibility that some

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results

2012-10-19 Thread Eric Walker
Le Oct 19, 2012 à 5:27 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com a écrit : By the way, I wonder if the way DGT blacked out some information in the pdf above was *very* weak on purpose. I was wondering why the presenter in one video (Hadjichristos?) was wearing a crisp, new NASA t-shirt.