Re: [Vo]:Re: great paper by Ed Storms, quarrel, a bit of info

2016-04-25 Thread Ruby
Bob, you are quoting out of context. I am guessing you did not read the paper yet, for in this case, "the obvious" refers to "the scientific results". That is to say "accept the experimental results and form a theory around the data", not ignore what doesn't fit one's model. The

[Vo]:Re: Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Bob Cook
Robin-- The voltage may be an intermittent voltage like in a spark plug. The current is low but the transient voltage is what is required to initiate the LENR. Spark plugs in cars develop 20,000 volts as you probably know. I have been shocked may times by such voltage sources. I guessed

[Vo]:Re: Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread a.ashfield
Bob Cook, Elsewhere Rossi has described the Quark X as being like a pencil and producing 100 W. I assume the casing is made out of a ceramic if the reactor can run at 1400C.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Robin the 100kev might be an effect of direct current taking multipaths thru metal powders loaded with H ions - he doesn't say he is using a 100kv power supply.. [snip] "4 - a generator of direct current connected with a cathode and an anode to accelerate the electrons" [/snip] I am thinking

[Vo]:Re: great paper by Ed Storms, quarrel, a bit of info

2016-04-25 Thread Bob Cook
Peter-- You quoted Ed Storms as follows: “Once again, science has been forced to either reject the obvious or accept the impossible” (Ed Storms) IMHO the bread and butter of science is accepting the impossible and trying to explain it in a logical manner based on observations of real

[Vo]:OT new state of water molecule discovered in confinement

2016-04-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160422163157.htm

RE: [Vo]:Re: Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, As mentioned in another thread, John Dash found excess heat and nuclear transmutation using pure titanium cathode and heavy water many years ago. Impurities in the Titanium are not needed… that is, if you use deuterium. But can we accept the consequences of radioactive transmutation

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread a.ashfield
I cut and pasted the address that Bob Cook used, without noticing the Vo and Re were reversed. So my comment should be here. Bob Cook, Elsewhere Rossi has described the Quark X as being like a pencil and producing 100 W. I assume the casing is made out of a ceramic if the reactor can run at

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Jack Cole
Maybe Rossi has finally found something that will work (e.g., using a method similar to Andrew Hrischanovich with titanium ). On Mon,

[Vo]:Re: great paper by Ed Storms, quarrel, a bit of info

2016-04-25 Thread Bob Cook
Ruby-- Ruby-- I appreciate your comment. I had to think about what the quote meant for some time. I did read Ed’s paper and agree with a lot of it, particularly the establishment’s influence on LENR research over the years. I looked at the literal meaning of his quote and concluded

[Vo]:LENR SURVEY, COMMENT INFO

2016-04-25 Thread Peter Gluck
Just published http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/04/apr-25-2016-lenr-survey-comment-info.html I don't know for sure and don't know why, but I have the impression that some really interesting news will come soon...Obviously from somewhere. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Ken Deboer
Hi guys, This discussion gave me a wild general idea for a series of possible experiments. Many folks have talked about the central feature of Lenr maybe involving Casimir cavities, as well as graphene and similar lattice materials. Lots of scientists lately have reported many Casimir like

[Vo]:Re: Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Back on April 21 I commented: “Could impurities in the Ti or Ni FCC structure create a bigger 5 atom hole with a greater transition energy, particularly as changes from alpha to beta phases occur? The correct impurities may allow for a higher reaction temperature for the LENR to go in

[Vo]:Re: Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I would not worry about the NRC. Its jurisdiction does not extend to transmuted waste, unless the transmutation occurs as the result of a reactor that uses a special nuclear material—uranium, plutonium etc. Then it is called a by product material and does fall under NRC licensing.

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jack Cole Maybe Rossi has finally found something that will work (e.g., using a method similar to Andrew Hrischanovich

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Jack Cole
Yes, I think Andrew et al believe this has nothing to do with LENR, but theorize a different process. It may end up being the case that nickel will need to be abandoned altogether in powder form. Last I knew, Andrew was going back to work on repeating some of the titanium experiments with better

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's missing secret or E-CatX description or both?

2016-04-25 Thread Teslaalset
An active anode/cathode construction is not necessary at all to enable electrons to gain energy amount of 100 KeV. High voltage can be generated at nano scale using ferro-electric, magneto-electric or piezo-electric (nano)materials. Read Pekka Soininen's patent applications and you'll find this

Re: [Vo]:Re: great paper by Ed Storms, quarrel, a bit of info

2016-04-25 Thread Ruby
Thank you Bob for clarifying that. I did not know what you meant. I do agree, science should not reject obvious data -by definition! Alas it is true, scientists are human, and many see only what they expect to see, so the obvious to one is not the obvious to another. LENR is unique in that

Re: [Vo]:OT new state of water molecule discovered in confinement

2016-04-25 Thread Eric Walker
>From the article: "At low temperatures, this tunneling water exhibits quantum motion through the separating potential walls, which is forbidden in the classical world," said lead author Alexander Kolesnikov of ORNL's Chemical and Engineering Materials Division. "This means that the oxygen and

[Vo]:Re: great paper by Ed Storms, quarrel, a bit of info

2016-04-25 Thread Bob Cook
Ruby-- You noted: ”Alas it is true, scientists are human, and many see only what they expect to see, so the obvious to one is not the obvious to another.” Not to drive a dead horse, but I would not call the “many” that “see only what they expect to see” scientists. That state of mind keeps