RE: [Vo]:FYI: Surprising result shocks scientists studying spin

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

My comment about the standard model is it has too many parts, not too few.  It 
takes lots of constants to hold all the various parts together.

Bob Cook

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From: MarkI-ZeroPoint 
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 8:12:27 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:FYI: Surprising result shocks scientists studying spin

Gee, physicists don’t know everything there is to know about atomic physics... 
could it be that the ‘Standard Model’ is missing a few parts!

https://phys.org/news/2018-01-result-scientists.html


"What we observed was totally amazing," said Brookhaven physicist Alexander 
Bazilevsky, a deputy spokesperson for the PHENIX collaboration at RHIC, which 
is reporting these results in a new paper just published in Physical Review 
Letters. "Our findings may mean that the mechanisms producing particles along 
the direction in which the spinning proton is traveling may be very different 
in proton-proton collisions 
compared with proton-nucleus collisions."



Understanding different particle production mechanisms could have big 
implications for interpreting other high-energy particle collisions, including 
the interactions of ultra-high-energy cosmic rays with particles in the Earth's 
atmosphere, Bazilevsky said.

-Mark Iverson

RE: [Vo]:FYI: Surprising result shocks scientists studying spin

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Schrodinger left spin out of his wave equation originally.  The math was too 
tough.

It still is a problem.  That’s why there are no spin coupling mechanisms avail 
for nuclear and atomic (electron) spin phenomena, identified for a coherent QM 
system.   Magnetic field coupling is the key IMHO.

Changes in spin states involve no linear momentum and hence no energetic 
particles with linear momentum.  (Except there may there may be  virtual 
charged particles passing through a magnetic field that give up linear momentum 
to the magnetic field as angular momentum which shows up as spin energy in a 
coherent system in which the magnetic field exists.)

Bob Cook


From: MarkI-ZeroPoint 
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 8:12:27 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:FYI: Surprising result shocks scientists studying spin

Gee, physicists don’t know everything there is to know about atomic physics... 
could it be that the ‘Standard Model’ is missing a few parts!

https://phys.org/news/2018-01-result-scientists.html


"What we observed was totally amazing," said Brookhaven physicist Alexander 
Bazilevsky, a deputy spokesperson for the PHENIX collaboration at RHIC, which 
is reporting these results in a new paper just published in Physical Review 
Letters. "Our findings may mean that the mechanisms producing particles along 
the direction in which the spinning proton is traveling may be very different 
in proton-proton collisions 
compared with proton-nucleus collisions."



Understanding different particle production mechanisms could have big 
implications for interpreting other high-energy particle collisions, including 
the interactions of ultra-high-energy cosmic rays with particles in the Earth's 
atmosphere, Bazilevsky said.

-Mark Iverson

Re: [Vo]:FYI: Surprising result shocks scientists studying spin

[H LV]

quote <<​Imagine playing a game of billiards, putting a bit of
counter-clockwise spin on the cue ball and watching it deflect to the right
as it strikes its target ball. With luck, or skill, the target ball sinks
into the corner pocket while the rightward-deflected cue ball narrowly
misses a side-pocket scratch. Now imagine your counter-clockwise spinning
cue ball striking a bowling ball instead, and deflecting even more
strongly—but to the *left*—when it strikes the larger mass.>>

This reminds me of the motion of a curling stone which  displays an
unexpected to tendency to drift in the same direction as it spins as it
slides across the ice surface. Why curling stones curl in this fashion
remains controversial.

Harry

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:12 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint 
wrote:

> Gee, physicists don’t know everything there is to know about atomic
> physics... could it be that the ‘Standard Model’ is missing a few parts!
>
>
>
> https://phys.org/news/2018-01-result-scientists.html
>
>
>
> "What we observed was totally amazing," said Brookhaven physicist
> Alexander Bazilevsky, a deputy spokesperson for the PHENIX collaboration at
> RHIC, which is reporting these results in a new paper just published in 
> *Physical
> Review Letters*. "Our findings may mean that the mechanisms producing
> particles along the direction in which the spinning proton is traveling may
> be very different in proton-proton collisions
>  compared with
> proton-nucleus collisions."
>
>
>
> Understanding different particle production mechanisms could have big
> implications for interpreting other high-energy particle collisions,
> including the interactions of ultra-high-energy cosmic rays with particles
> in the Earth's atmosphere, Bazilevsky said.
>
>
> -Mark Iverson
>
>
>