Kyle Mcallister wrote:
1. Applying emissions restrictions to new vehicles is not that big
of a deal, as far as I am concerned . . .
I have never heard of retrofitting older vehicles with emission
controls. In any case, the main concern is for CO2 and this cannot be
reduced in an older car
--- Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Kyle Mcallister wrote:
I have never heard of retrofitting older vehicles
with emission
controls. In any case, the main concern is for CO2
and this cannot be
reduced in an older car by any means.
No, they just want to boot them off the road.
Maybe, but, for as long as I can remember (which depends on the
weather =), standards have always been different for California.
Indeed, certain items are different for Calcars and must be so
maintained, eg the Toyota Echo required iridium tipped spark plugs to
meet CA standards. These cost $15
Terry Blanton wrote:
Maybe, but, for as long as I can remember (which depends on the
weather =), standards have always been different for California.
Indeed, certain items are different for Calcars and must be so
maintained, eg the Toyota Echo required iridium tipped spark plugs
to meet CA
Terry Blanton wrote:
The car makers will only make two cars: Calcars and everywhere else,
assuming CA has the most restrictive standards.
Consider that a divorce
[said to Sharon Stone in Total Recall ;-)
I wrote:
No doubt this is true. For that matter there are regional variations
in cars such as the type of fuel allowed (more or less polluting)
and customer requirements for things like road salt sealants . . .
What I am trying to say is that manufacturers can support small
regional
No problemo Harry,
Just do what the latinos do, steal your pick of cars or trucks in Texas,
slip across the border past Pancho Villa land and into sunny californio. Ah!
californio, use your fake Mexico liscense plate,no drivers liscense, no
inspection sticker and stolen credit card. No
Jed Rothwell wrote:
I wrote:
No doubt this is true. For that matter there are regional variations
in cars such as the type of fuel allowed (more or less polluting) and
customer requirements for things like road salt sealants . . .
What I am trying to say is that manufacturers can
I think they also marketed those vehicles in Arizona.
Terry
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Jed Rothwell wrote:
I wrote:
No doubt this is true. For that matter there are regional variations
in cars such as the type of fuel allowed (more or less
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Last time that sort of thing happened, California mandated that part of
the fleet be electric cars. But it didn't work out the way you're
suggesting.
What the manufacturers actually did was market the cars *only* in
California . . .
I realize that is what
Unsurprising quote from today's Washington Post:
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) hailed Obama's decision on
auto emissions.
'Allowing California and other states to aggressively reduce their
own harmful vehicle tailpipe emissions would be a historic win for
clean air and for
Mike Carrell wrote:
So long as hydrocarbons are the ultimate fuel, whether in an automobile or
in a utility power plant, [weight x miles driven] will produce CO2 and other
oxides.
Yes, but much less fuel per passenger mile, and less CO2, because electric
cars are much more efficient that
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From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:Obama puts Schwarzenegger in charge of energy policy
Mike Carrell wrote:
MC: So long as hydrocarbons are the ultimate fuel, whether in an automobile
Mike Carrell wrote:
JR: Yes, but much less fuel per passenger mile, and less CO2, because
electric cars are much more efficient that gasoline-only cars, or hybrids.
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There are hidden assumptions in this assertion. I don't kow if they are
adequately analyzed.
I think
On Jan 26, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Mike Carrell wrote:
It is assumed that a utility plant, running under continuous load
and intelligent management, can burn fuel more efficiently than an
accelerating auto engine. So far, so good. But there are losses in
transmission to the user household, and
On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
One of the advantages of recharging cars is that the customer
doesn't care when you do it, as long as it gets done by morning.
Most other uses of electric power have to be done in real time.
They have be done in a fraction of a second after
Okay, here's my input from a mechanic's standpoint.
Guys like me keep you driving. Jed, this includes you,
and I have worked on Prius' (Prius's? Priuses? What
DOES that name mean?!?) before.
1. Applying emissions restrictions to new vehicles is
not that big of a deal, as far as I am concerned,
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