Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-05 Thread Lennart Thornros
Axil and Jed, I think this is an issue. I do not think that the solution will come easy but it will come - more or less good. My thought; why do we need to participate in this war? who benefits? Thinking a little outside the box. What is it that we need to protect in the US, that people in Spain

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread Joe Hughes
So would you consider the jobs required to create, support and run the internet, networks and infrastructure that this list runs on as bullsh*t planet wrecking consumption? How about the jobs to create and deliver the computer, tablet or mobile device you use to post on this and all of the

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread leaking pen
to provide services. Technical support and customer service phones jobs is a MASSIVE industry. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Jobs required to create, support and run the internet are the vast majority? To make tablets and software? Laugh!

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread Axil Axil
As the extent and importance of automation grows in the life of a nation, so to will the number and importance of the people who create, attack, and protect that automation infrastructure. A nation and its people will be so dependent on automation, that an attack on that automation cannot be

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Jed, I think you are pessimistic about the time frame for auto driven cars, trucks etc. 10 years, at the most 15 years. I think we will see this technology implemented rather slowly though. Large expensive vehicle (read 18 wheeler) ought to be the beginning. There are really no big

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Jobs required to create, support and run the internet are the vast majority? To make tablets and software? Laugh! On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:44 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: blaze, if not for the overhead eating efficiency created by mass building, those things wouldn't exist.

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
No, any sort of job that increases communication and education I don't see as generally planet wrecking, though certainly we could do a lot better. I'm talking about the excess energy consumption, cars, the houses, the yachts, the airplanes, the military to protect all this, etc etc. On Tue, Aug

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread leaking pen
blaze, if not for the overhead eating efficiency created by mass building, those things wouldn't exist. and the jobs you are describing are a SMALL fraction of the jobs available, and the ones Joe is listing the vast MAJORITY. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Blaze Spinnaker

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread leaking pen
Because a lot of things still require the human touch and cant be replaced by a robot. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/04/why-are-there-still-so-many-jobs-the-case-for-the-persistence-of-middle-skill-employment/

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Most of those things are pretty much unnecessary though. As soon as you get a few levels up on maslow's hierarchy of needs (safety / security / etc), it's all pretty much just useless bullsh*t planet wrecking consumption. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:01 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Because a lot of things still require the human touch and cant be replaced by a robot. Correct. Plus, many unskilled jobs still require basic skills that computers and robots have not yet fully mastered, such as driving automobiles and stocking shelves in

Re: [Vo]:Why are there still so many jobs?

2015-08-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: As the extent and importance of automation grows in the life of a nation, so to will the number and importance of the people who create, attack, and protect that automation infrastructure. I doubt this will be a problem much longer. It would be easy to