Re: [vos-d] site peering

2006-03-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Hugh Perkins wrote: Peter, Disclaimer: the only thing I'm sure about the problem is that I havent fully understood it ;-) The problem appears to be a stable way of identifying each machine? Could you use an IP address and por

[vos-d] site peering (part 2)

2006-03-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, so I layed out the problem in the my previous email. Now for some thoughts on the solution. Essentially, we need a distributed way of uniquely identifying a site that cannot be spoofed, and does not get tripped up by the many possible netw

Re: [vos-d] site peering

2006-03-26 Thread Hugh Perkins
Peter,   Disclaimer: the only thing I'm sure about the problem is that I havent fully understood it ;-)   The problem appears to be a stable way of identifying each machine?  Could you use an IP address and port as seen by an (internet-based) STUN server?   On 3/27/06, Peter Amstutz <[EMAIL PROTECT

[vos-d] Re: site peering

2006-03-26 Thread Lalo Martins
And so says Lalo Martins on 27/03/06 13:16... > A record could be just a PCR to a remote object. Or even better, a > Vobject containing the remote PCR, but also some metadata. Er. Remote PCRs are probably not the most useful representation, specially seeing as we may already be using remote PCRs

[vos-d] Re: site peering

2006-03-26 Thread Lalo Martins
And so says Peter Amstutz on 27/03/06 12:46... > The solution is to completely re-think how a remote site is identified, > and I will discuss this in my next email. Cryptographic key pairs? (Which would then also open up the field to encrypted payloads when we deem them necessary?) So A can refe

Re: [vos-d] [philosophical] VOS as AI

2006-03-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Hugh Perkins wrote: Something I've been thinking about a lot is replication and migration of computation. If a VOS AI bot could upload itself to other servers (given proper credentials, of course) it could quite literally wand

[vos-d] site peering

2006-03-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Something that has been a big source of trouble for... well pretty much forever is a problem I call the "peer introduction problem". Here it is in a nutshell. Your client C has a connection to site A. Site A links to a vobject on host B. You hav

Re: [vos-d] [philosophical] VOS as AI

2006-03-26 Thread Hugh Perkins
> Something I've been thinking about a lot is replication and migration ofcomputation.  If a VOS AI bot could upload itself to other servers (givenproper credentials, of course) it could quite literally wander from server to server, well beyond the purview of the creator.  Unlike a virus orworm, it

Re: [vos-d] [philosophical] VOS as AI

2006-03-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A few comments... VOS grew out of my work for the Multi-Agent Systems Laboratory at the University of Massachusetts. Multi-Agent Systems is, broadly states, the study of distributed AI systems. At the time we were developing a simulator which ti