[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2003-01-14 Thread Matt Sealey
Ahh! but the latest version of these, 16.1 dated 21 Dec 02, by Alfonso Ranieri and Simone Tellini are available on Aminet or from http://digilander.libero.it/asoft/ It is not essential to have these 16.1 versions of the classes. The versions bundled with Voyager are the *minimum*

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2003-01-13 Thread Michael J. Roberts
Hello David On 27-Dec-02, you wrote: On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:17:55 +, Brian Sharman wrote: Which ones? The more recent ones I have are :- Speedbar.mcc.14.4 03.06.02 Speedbar.mcp.14.4 03.06.02

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-30 Thread Mahendra Tallur
Here, on pegasos/morphos, V seems to work perfectly... Good job :) :) :) EXPECT one strange thing which happens once in a while (the other program loaded being SimpleMail) : sometimes, the requester asking to register (with three buttons) appears unexpectingly and flickers/blinks many times

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-30 Thread Franco Coccini
Hello Targhan On 29-Dic-02, you wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:03:14 +, Don Cox wrote: There still seem to be some stability issues with MUI programs. Not really MUI's fault. what's the best tool to track erroneous tasks with? MuForce? I would prefer to give a more

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-29 Thread Robin
Hello Franco I've patched my Amiga-MUI to Pegasos-MUI ... works great ;-) Got alot more performance =D is it a joke . . . . or not? Yep, it's a joke that I've patched it ... But the performance of my pegasos compared to my now-dead amiga ppc is impressive. MUIppc(3.9) is really great with

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-29 Thread David Gerber
On 29 Dec 2002 15:29:06 -0500, Targhan wrote: what's the best tool to track erroneous tasks with? MuForce? I would prefer to give a more specific bug report than it don't werk. I just can't see that as very helpful... I recommend enforcer/cyberguard + mungwall + poolwatch for 68k setups.

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-28 Thread Brian Sharman
Hello David On 27/12/2002, you wrote: On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:37:26 +0100, Stephen Harris wrote: No idea. Does it happen when you don't load any site ? Oh, and of course no one is using that optimized MUI version from aminet right ? should we be ? No. We woudn't all be so eager to

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-28 Thread Don Cox
On 01/01/78, Brian Sharman wrote: We woudn't all be so eager to try the patch if Mr. Stuntz released MUI39. I think Mr Stuntz lives at the top of a pole in the middle of a desert. Regards -- Don Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-28 Thread Robin
Hello Don We woudn't all be so eager to try the patch if Mr. Stuntz released MUI39. I think Mr Stuntz lives at the top of a pole in the middle of a desert. When I look at the MUI shipped with pegasos (and probably with AOne) I doubt that ;-) Someone must have created this really great

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-28 Thread Brian Sharman
Hello Robin On 28/12/2002, you wrote: Hello Don We woudn't all be so eager to try the patch if Mr. Stuntz released MUI39. I think Mr Stuntz lives at the top of a pole in the middle of a desert. When I look at the MUI shipped with pegasos (and probably with AOne) I doubt that ;-)

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-28 Thread Brian Sharman
Hello Don On 28/12/2002, you wrote: On 01/01/78, Brian Sharman wrote: We woudn't all be so eager to try the patch if Mr. Stuntz released MUI39. I think Mr Stuntz lives at the top of a pole in the middle of a desert. Keeping Holger Kruse company. Regards Brian

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Franco Coccini
Hello David On 26-Dic-02, you wrote: On 26 Dec 2002 17:43:58 -0500, Targhan wrote: !#$@!!#$#@ It just crashed again. There is a leak in there somewhere... I wonder just how big of a stack it'll need? I don't think changing the stack would help V. It sets the stack by itself on

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Don Cox
On 27/12/02, David Gerber wrote: On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:58:03 +0100, Jocke =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F6blom?= wrote: I had the crash on exit bug when using 52000 as stack. I changed it to 50 and now I don't anymore. Please explain that :) No idea. Does it happen when you don't load any

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Don Cox
On 27/12/02, Franco Coccini wrote: Increasing stack to 20 , make V 68K useable ON REAL AMIGA. On emulated ones, not. IMHO Ciao PS-now with the stack increased, all the site that crash before, now works perfectely. Only Amiga.org, produce a yellow allert and then reboot. (see

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Don Cox
On 27/12/02, David Gerber wrote: On 26 Dec 2002 17:43:58 -0500, Targhan wrote: !#$@!!#$#@ It just crashed again. There is a leak in there somewhere... I wonder just how big of a stack it'll need? I don't think changing the stack would help V. It sets the stack by itself on startup if

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Uffe Holst
In a message of 27-Dec-02 Don Cox wrote: I tried it here on a 68k setup (cgx4, 060, OS 3.1) and it worked fine. I have no idea why it's unstable for some people. Try it on AOS 3.9. I don't think anyone is using 3.1 any more. I'm, of course, still using OS 3.1. In my setup it is very

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Raynald Le Moing
hello, The good thing would be to test V on a bare OS9 (3.1/3.5 ?) + MUI system. I did that and V ran flawlessly ... Till I closed it ;) As it crashed at this point. I'm now washing the User-startup/Startup-S=E9quence. But ... How sad a bare OS+MUI system ... Raynald Le Moing. On

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Don Cox
On 27/12/02, Uffe Holst wrote: In a message of 27-Dec-02 Don Cox wrote: I tried it here on a 68k setup (cgx4, 060, OS 3.1) and it worked fine. I have no idea why it's unstable for some people. Try it on AOS 3.9. I don't think anyone is using 3.1 any more. I'm, of course, still

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Uffe Holst
In a message of 27-Dec-02 Don Cox wrote: Try it on AOS 3.9. I don't think anyone is using 3.1 any more. I'm, of course, still using OS 3.1. In my setup it is very stable, and even when running Voyager 3.3.122 I rarely experience any crashes. I've have found no reasons to upgrade my

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Allan S Rasmussen
Hi David, Which optimized MUI is it, one should not use? Are we talking about the 020 patch for muimaster library? Allan On 27-Dec-02, David Gerber wrote: On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:58:03 +0100, Jocke =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F6blom?= wrote: I had the crash on exit bug when using 52000 as stack.

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Stephen Harris
Hello David, On 27-Dec-02, you wrote: On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:58:03 +0100, Jocke =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F6blom?= wrote: I had the crash on exit bug when using 52000 as stack. I changed it to 50 and now I don't anymore. Please explain that :) No idea. Does it happen when you don't load any

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Robin
Hello Allan On 27-Dez-02, you wrote: Hi David, Which optimized MUI is it, one should not use? Are we talking about the 020 patch for muimaster library? DONT use this patch ... it's not improving anything. But some progs start having problems with it ... Just use the plain muimaster lib

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Ian Greenway
Hi, Dave 'Targhan' Crawford said: Did any of the libraries actually change, mcc's, or anything like that, or just the exe for V? I've noticed when running the new V, that other applications seem to go whacko too. (example: md2 1.4.16 and X-Arc) Being un untrusting so-and-so for

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread David Gerber
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:37:26 +0100, Stephen Harris wrote: No idea. Does it happen when you don't load any site ? Oh, and of course no one is using that optimized MUI version from aminet right ? should we be ? No. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread David Gerber
On 27 Dec 2002 19:01:12 +, Ian Greenway wrote: Being un untrusting so-and-so for installer scripts, I checked the versions of the files supplied. I don't know if it's related to the problems seen, but several of the MUI classes supplied were *ancient* compared to what I already had.

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Brian Sharman
Hello David On 27/12/2002, you wrote: On 27 Dec 2002 19:01:12 +, Ian Greenway wrote: Being un untrusting so-and-so for installer scripts, I checked the versions of the files supplied. I don't know if it's related to the problems seen, but several of the MUI classes supplied were

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread David Gerber
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:17:55 +, Brian Sharman wrote: Which ones? The more recent ones I have are :- Speedbar.mcc. 14.4 03.06.02 Speedbar.mcp. = 14.4 03.06.02

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Chapron-JeanMichel
Hello David On 27-déc-02, David Gerber said about [voyager] Re: 3.3.125 : On 26 Dec 2002 17:43:58 -0500, Targhan wrote: !#$@!!#$#@ It just crashed again. There is a leak in there somewhere... I wonder just how big of a stack it'll need? I don't think changing the stack would help V

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-27 Thread Franco Coccini
Hello Chapron-JeanMichel On 27-Dic-02, you wrote: here with cgx4 15 bits, 060, OS 3.9 and 8 I can't start. With 30 It works for a few minutes! new fixed version 3.3.126 available on v3.vapor.com Ciao PS-works fine on amiga.org also @@

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-26 Thread Duncan Joss
Oh dear, I opened my big mouth waaay too soon here. ;) Now seems to be much more unstable than before. Running with MuForce/MuGuardianAngel produces plenty of hits and broken mungwalls (all seemingly single byte overruns). Switching back to .122 :( Duncan. (68k version, P96 (Prometheus),

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-26 Thread Franco Coccini
Hello Duncan On 26-Dic-02, you wrote: Oh dear, I opened my big mouth waaay too soon here. ;) Now seems to be much more unstable than before. Running with MuForce/MuGuardianAngel produces plenty of hits and broken mungwalls (all seemingly single byte overruns). Switching back to .122

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-26 Thread Brian Sharman
Hello Franco On 26/12/2002, you wrote: Hello Duncan On 26-Dic-02, you wrote: Oh dear, I opened my big mouth waaay too soon here. ;) Now seems to be much more unstable than before. Running with MuForce/MuGuardianAngel produces plenty of hits and broken mungwalls (all seemingly

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-26 Thread Targhan
With 20 of stack, V works quite perfectely! very, very fst! Have increased stack to 20. So far everything is now very sweet and very fast. Not so here. Still get lock ups. Particularly on Amiga.org right after trying to login. -- -- Regards, Dave 'Targhan' Crawford

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125

2002-12-26 Thread Allan S Rasmussen
Hi everybody, I beleive Franco is right, it does seem to be reasonably stable with a stack increase! Even if it doesnt, I've been testing the new vimgdec.vlib with v.122, and that seems to work fine too. Without stack increase... I think! Allan On 26-Dec-02, Franco Coccini wrote: Hello

[voyager] Re: 3.3.125: frames bug

2002-12-26 Thread Franco Coccini
Hello Michael On 26-Dic-02, you wrote: hi. go to http://www.grasshopperllc.com/ you'll see scrollbars around all frames... that never happened before. the source code tells not to draw them but voyager does. strange. byebye... yes, that is a bug (with a lot of sites) But now with