Re: Posting Guidelines - v0.3
On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, at 03:33 PM, Doug Wilson wrote: on 6/2/02 3:26 PM, Darren Kam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's all good, but I do find it difficult to conform to: 4. You put your response *below* the quoted part. I often don't do this because I assume that people are already following the thread, and just want to see my response at a quick glance. Right or wrong, it's just personal preference. I wish people would read the RCF. It's more than just a personal preference. It's the way things are supposed to be done. RFC 1855, Netiquette Guidelines http://rfc.net/rfc1855.html Sorry Doug but I beg to differ. The RFC is merely a set of guidelines, and to quote from the RFC itself: This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. This document provides a minimum set of guidelines for Network Etiquette (Netiquette) which organizations may take and adapt for their own use. Very good guidelines I agree, but I'd draw short of saying that it is the way things are supposed to be done. Matt Huitson Dept. of Psychology University of Western Australia Nedlands, WA 6097 Western Australia work: 61 89 380 3639 mob: 0414 294 770 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Posting Guidelines - v0.3 7 year itch...
I wish people would read the RCF. It's more than just a personal preference. It's the way things are supposed to be done. RFC 1855, Netiquette Guidelines http://rfc.net/rfc1855.html Sorry Doug but I beg to differ. The RFC is merely a set of guidelines, and to quote from the RFC itself: This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. This document provides a minimum set of guidelines for Network Etiquette (Netiquette) which organizations may take and adapt for their own use. Very good guidelines I agree, but I'd draw short of saying that it is the way things are supposed to be done. ...not to mention the fact that is it is dated October 1995... greg
Re: Posting Guidelines - v0.3 7 year itch...
To me this looks more and more like we are the ones sitting eyes forward in the theatre - personally I'm waiting for the hammer throwing blonde to run up the aisle. (replying at the top of the page because I find it tedious to scroll down through message threads that I've already been following) I wish people would read the RCF. It's more than just a personal preference. It's the way things are supposed to be done. RFC 1855, Netiquette Guidelines http://rfc.net/rfc1855.html Sorry Doug but I beg to differ. The RFC is merely a set of guidelines, and to quote from the RFC itself: This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. This document provides a minimum set of guidelines for Network Etiquette (Netiquette) which organizations may take and adapt for their own use. Very good guidelines I agree, but I'd draw short of saying that it is the way things are supposed to be done. ...not to mention the fact that is it is dated October 1995... greg Keith Palmer Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231 Phone: 0419927101 Fax: 0897915900 the online FireWire data storage store - http://www.zytech.com.au/ Remember to get your FREE colour business cards - http://www.zytech.com.au/contact.html
More DVD/MP3 Problems...
Hi every1, After much mucking about with different burn formats I finally emailed the maker of the DVD player, NEC and received the following rather cryptic reply. If anyone can decipher it I'd really appreciate it... -- Hello The NDV-21 will not play back MP3's from a burnt disc. It will only play back a pressed commercial disc. Page 40 of the Instruction gives you the disc's that it will not play. Regards John O'Connor NEC HE Service 131 632 -Original Message- From: HE Service Sent: Wed, Feb 06, 2002 9:00 To: John O'connor Subject: FW: NEC DVD Player Model NDV-21 -Original Message- From: Kevin Phyland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 6:44 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NEC DVD Player Model NDV-21 Hi, Santa was kind enough to give me an NEC DVD player model NDV-21 for Christmas. It says in both the manual and on the front of the machine that it is capable of playing MP3s on CD. I've tried a number of different formats (ISO 9660 etc..) and still haven't been able to get anything but a DISK ERROR message with any of the formats that I've tried. I'd just like to know what I'm doing wrong with the format burning... Can you help? Cheers, Kevin Phyland Wycheproof, Vic. [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. I've tried with less than 60 tracks, more than 60 tracks etc...frankly I'm stumped. I've tried burning disks on Macs, IBM-compatibles etc...??? ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: Posting Guidelines - v0.3 7 year itch...
At 09:41 8/02/02 +0800, Greg Hosking wrote: ...not to mention the fact that is it is dated October 1995... The age of a standard does not indicate its currency. If we get rid of standards, we might as well each start speaking a different language, since English as been around since before you and I were born. Standards evolve if they have to, just like the Posting Guidelines will. Quoted at the bottom because I only quoted what I needed to... -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
Hi every1, After much mucking about with different burn formats I finally emailed the maker of the DVD player, NEC and received the following rather cryptic reply. If anyone can decipher it I'd really appreciate it... -- Hello The NDV-21 will not play back MP3's from a burnt disc. It will only play back a pressed commercial disc. Page 40 of the Instruction gives you the disc's that it will not play. It would appear that their saying that the drive in the unit only works on CD's not CD-RW's or CD-R's. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
RFC: Posting Guidelines - v0.5
This proposal only adds version details and credits. If I've misrepresented your contribution in *any way*, please let me know. As a community, WAMUG is a group of people who send each other email, generally about Macintosh issues. The group is now so large that not everyone knows everyone else, so we've come up with the following suggestions for your valued contributions to this list. This is not a rule-book, but a suggestion which makes your questions and answers as helpful to as many people as possible. Before posting a message to WAMUG: 1. Did you attempt to resolve the problem yourself? 2. Did you search the message archive for a similar problem? 3. Did you search the web for a similar problem? 4. Did you give your post a relevant, meaningful Subject? 5. It is good practice to include System Information where relevant. 6. It is good practice to show unsuccessful attempts at resolution. 7. It is good practice to include relevant URLs. When you reply to a posting made by another person: 1. Did you only respond to the list - unless specifically asked otherwise? 2. Did you quote only appropriate parts of the message? 3. Did you attribute the quotes correctly? 4. It is good practice to put your response *below* the quoted part. 5. It is good practice to include relevant URLs. 6. It is good to be mindful of a future user who searches the archive. 7. If you don't *know*, then say that you're guessing. 8. If you're not sure, then say that you think so. 9. If your response is really a new post, adjust the Subject accordingly. The Digest List: As a subscriber, you can choose to receive each individual message, or a daily digest. If you receive the digested version of the list and respond, be sure to change the Subject of your response, otherwise other subscribers will not be able to follow the thread of conversation. Resources to assist you: Relevant System Information includes: - OS (6, 7, 8, 9, X or Classic) - Machine and Model (ie PowerBook 5300, iMac Flat Screen, etc.) - Any peripherals involved (SCSI, FireWire, USB, Serial or ADB) - Disk space / RAM / Extensions / Version numbers as related Mailing List Archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ WAMUG home page http://www.wamug.asn.au/ Web search engine http://www.google.com/ Apple Info Library http://kbase.info.apple.com/ Apple Info Archive http://karchive.info.apple.com/ Version Tracker http://www.versiontracker.com/macos/ MacFixIt http://macfixit.com/ MacSurfer http://macsurfer.com/ Macintosh version of Google http://www.google.com/mac.html RFC 1855, Netiquette Guidelines http://rfc.net/rfc1855.html Credits: This document was created by many members of the WAMUG list after protracted discussion. Version: 0.5, published 8 February 2002 - Onno Benschop Added Credits - Onno Benschop Added Version Details - Onno Benschop Version: 0.4, published 6 February 2002 - Onno Benschop Attempted to incorporate suggestions - John Taylor Less Draconian language - Shay Telfer / Anthony Briggs Added Resources - Rod Lavington / Bob Reworded Respond below a quote - Nathalie Collins Deleted Spelling - Shay Telfer Version: 0.3, published 6 February 2002 - Onno Benschop Added Digest Paragraph - John Taylor Version: 0.2, published 5 February 2002 - Onno Benschop Reordered Points - Onno Benschop Reworded choosing a subject - Shay Telfer Added URL suggestion - Shay Telfer Added System Information - Shay Telfer Version: 0.1, published 4 February 2002 - Onno Benschop Original RFC after suggestion from Neil Blake / Daniel Forsdyke -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Posting Guidelines - v0.3 7 year itch...
The age of a standard does not indicate its currency. If we get rid of standards, we might as well each start speaking a different language, since English as been around since before you and I were born. E la verita. Questo discorso e proprio buffo. (Tutti, mi dispiache tanto. Un piccolo scherzo). Brett Carboni Tsunami Sushi Bar Il meglio sushi nel mondo
Spring Cleaning 4.0 and Mac OS 9.2.2 - finds duplicate files but does not display the entries found
Hi WAMUG folks. I have a customer who is running an iMac DV machine. The machine recently was upgraded to Mac OS 9.2.2, and has now had Spring Cleaning 4.0 installed, as requested by the customer. The problem is that Spring Cleaning doesn't display items that it's meant to, when doing a search. [Spring Cleaning is a utility to do tasks such as fix aliases, remove duplicate files etc.] So, for example, if you do a 'Find Duplicates' in Spring Cleaning, the iMac works away, and finds, say, 500 duplicate items, but in the 'found' window, no items are physically displayed (just 500 drop down arrows, with no additional info - the drop down arrows are 'empty'). Things tried so far: -looked at Appearance's Font Smoothing, and, at ATM, for possible conflicts -starting with no extensions -removed all external devices (Keyspan Palm adapter, Zip drive) -contacting Aladdin software (said it must be a strange anomaly with the particular machine -removed and reinstalled the product -tried the software on other similar machines; the software works on Mac OS 9.2.1 machines, but not Mac OS 9.2.2 installations (software is meant to work on Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X machines) -searching the WAMUG archives -searching through various web resources on the topic Machine specs: iMac DV (slot loading), blue, 350mhz, 128mb RAM, Mac OS 9.2.2, running on an Ethernet LAN. Any suggestions (besides don't use Spring Cleaning and revert to Mac OS 9.2.1 or earlier) to this problem? Thanks. -- Derek Ellerton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Support Officer, Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry, http://www.meddent.uwa.edu.au/ University of Western Australia. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't take a moment to look around, you could miss it. - Ferris Bueller
Re: Posting Guidelines - v0.3 7 year itch...
At 11:21 8/02/02 +0800, Brett Carboni wrote: The age of a standard does not indicate its currency. If we get rid of standards, we might as well each start speaking a different language, since English as been around since before you and I were born. E la verita. Questo discorso e proprio buffo. (Tutti, mi dispiache tanto. Un piccolo scherzo). Babelfish, Italian to English: And the verita one. This just funny speech and. (All, me dispiache a lot. A small joke). Huh? -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
Onno Benschop wrote: Lara Hopkins wrote: Onno Benschop wrote: To connect to ADSL with the vast majority of ISP's you are required to use a PPPoE client, Not with Iinet's Corporate accounts, which is what I've been using up till now. Ethernet modem, static IP. From your perspective there will be no change. Well, not no change. I will need to configure the PPPoE client on the Airport Base Station, rather than using the Ethernet/Manually option in the Internet panel of the Airport Admin Utility. This change will come with all of PPPoE's attendant problems, apparently. At least it looks like the former Airport-specific PPPoE problems have been resolved with the new software. I received several responses about PPPoE/ADSL problems from some US ADSL users who had nightmares with PPPoE disconnections and flakiness. PPPoE adds another protocol layer over your network packets. Many (most?) people needed to tweak their TCP/IP settings to drop the MTU (packet size) so that their packet plus the PPPoE headers will still get through all the routers. I have a method to do this in an OS X command line; will share with anyone who's interested, as I expect it might affect other subscribers. There AFAIK are three ways to connect to ADSL: 1. Computer running PPPoE client connected via USB or Ethernet to ADSL modem. 2. Computer connected to LAN connected to Ethernet ADSL modem running raw Ethernet over ADSL. 3. Computer connected to Airport Base (running PPPoE), in turn connected via Ethernet to an ADSL modem. If you are currently running option 2, (which I'm not actually convinced of given the information I have - I think you're using option 1 over Ethernet) I'm not. I've repeatedly said that I'm using an Airport base station and an Ethernet ADSL modem. I'm currently running option 3, _without_ the PPPoE. Iiinet isn't switching to using PPPoE for Home accounts for several weeks yet (as I said in my initial email), and I haven't yet switched from my Corporate to a Home account. I was using option 2 before I bought the Base Station. I'll try again. Current configuration: ADSL modem (Alcatel Speed Touch Home ethernet model) ---ethernet cable--airport 2 base station (Ethernet/Manually configured)-waves on the aetheribook with airport card. Future configuration: ADSL modem (Alcatel Speed Touch Home ethernet model) ---ethernet cable--airport 2 base station (running PPPoE)-waves on the aetheribook with airport card. (the base station is separately cabled to a hub to the rest of the LAN, but I'll ignore that for now). you need to add a PPPoE client to the system in some way It's built into the Airport Base Station. (and likely change the modem). This is incorrect, according to iinet. Why would I need to change the modem? -- Lara Hopkins
Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
Lara Hopkins on 08/02/02 2:51 PM, wrote: PPPoE adds another protocol layer over your network packets. Many (most?) people needed to tweak their TCP/IP settings to drop the MTU (packet size) so that their packet plus the PPPoE headers will still get through all the routers. As far as I'm aware this MTU issue only affected the PPPoE client in Mac OS X 10.1.0 (and was fixed in 10.1.2) and not the PPPoE client in the airport base station. I have a method to do this in an OS X command line; will share with anyone who's interested, as I expect it might affect other subscribers. In 10.1.0 I got to memorise this fix! - Connect to ISP via ADSL PPPoE - Open Terminal App - Type... sudo ifconfig ppp0 mtu 1492 - Type password at prompt - Hit enter - Done Cheers Troy.
Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
At 11:51 8/02/02 +0800, Lara Hopkins wrote: Onno Benschop wrote: From your perspective there will be no change. Well, not no change. I will need to configure the PPPoE client on the Airport Base Station, rather than using the Ethernet/Manually option in the Internet panel of the Airport Admin Utility. I'll re-word that to: Once you've re-configured your base station, there will be no change. This change will come with all of PPPoE's attendant problems, apparently. There is no PPPoE problem, this is a furfy, it's a different way of connecting. As you've already stated and others have added to, there appeared to be an issue with the old PPPoE client in the base station. This is a problem with the *base station client*, not with PPPoE itself. I'm suspecting that iiNet has decided that they need to authenticate their users because they're running out of resources to permanently map a specific modem to an account. If they use PPPoE, then the authentication username/password will link to the account, thus simplifying the process of exchanging modems. I received several responses about PPPoE/ADSL problems from some US ADSL users who had nightmares with PPPoE disconnections and flakiness. This is again, not a PPPoE thing. Packets do get dropped, hardware does die, software does choke. ADSL is an amazing technology that provides high-speed internet connectivity over a copper wire guaranteed to transfer 9600 Baud. If your PPPoE client has been set up correctly - I cannot comment on the base station client - then it will connect if a request is received to get to the net and no connection exists, otherwise it will just send the request straight out. I've had a 486 which is connected to the internet via PPPoE that has been connected to the net for as long as 3 months *continuously*. Every now and then it drops the connection when something breaks at Telstra's end. It then attempts to reconnect within 30 seconds. PPPoE adds another protocol layer over your network packets. Yes, what this means is that more stuff has to travel across the link to keep the connection running. Many (most?) people needed to tweak their TCP/IP settings to drop the MTU (packet size) so that their packet plus the PPPoE headers will still get through all the routers. Dunno about this assertion about tweaking the MTU; I never did anything, just worked out of the box for me. Hey, who knows if I do tweak it, then my speed will go up by a factor 42 and I'll actually maybe hit the 3Gb monthly cap :-) I have a method to do this in an OS X command line; will share with anyone who's interested, as I expect it might affect other subscribers. I *suspect* that this won't be an issue, but for the archive, would you consider posting it here anyway with a disclaimer next to it? ADSL modem (Alcatel Speed Touch Home ethernet model) ---ethernet cable--airport 2 base station (Ethernet/Manually configured)-waves on the aetheribook with airport card. This made me laugh out loud. Don't get me wrong here. I'm using an Alcatel Speed Touch Home Ethernet model to connect to the net also. I'm running PPPoE on Linux and today I learnt from you that I could use it to connect directly to an Ethernet only ADSL service if I wanted to. -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ADSL/Cable
Hi I'm going to upgrade from my 56k connection to iiNet to either ADSL via iiNet or Bigpond via the Foxtel cable already installed in my house. Is one better than the other? Is one likely to be outdated prior to the other? And finally, is the support of either supplier likely to better than the other (I'm talking about large differences here, not personal likes or dislikes) Thanks in anticipation! Peter (I used spell check, Onno!)
Re: ADSL/Cable
At 13:12 8/02/02 +0800, Peter Curtis wrote: Is one better than the other? Is one likely to be outdated prior to the other? And finally, is the support of either supplier likely to better than the other (I'm talking about large differences here, not personal likes or dislikes) Depends. Don't you just hate when an IT guy says that? It's really a question of what other factors are important to you, cost, reliability, upgrade ability, needs. Speeds are similar in the current popular implementations. Running costs appear to be similar - though I'm not sure about contracts and installation fees. iiNet is a small company when compared to Telstra, support for both seems to vary depending on who answers the phone. If a Telstra fault happens, more people are affected and supposedly this means it gets fixed faster, but then there will be more problems on a larger network. iiNet probably uses Telstra as (one of) their network providers, so a Telstra fault could reasonably show up in the iiNet network. Other services offered by either company such as web-space, mail services, mail accounts etc, may well be important to you. Finally, if you already have a phone socket near your computer - since you're upgrading from 56K - will probably not need any re-wiring in your house, where your current cable connection probably arrives somewhere away from your computer. As for out-dated, dunno, we still use English these days - I suspect we will for some time yet. I'm sure someone will invent a faster way to push bits to your home and it will be cheaper than what you installed, and it will likely happen too soon for you, but that will always be the case. After all that, why don't you ask either sales department the same question and see what arguments they attempt to sell you with. Thanks in anticipation! Was it worth it :-) Peter (I used spell check, Onno!) But what did your spell-checker make of my name? -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FS: Indigo iBook 366
Indigo iBook 366 (last model before the iceBook) 320MB Ram 10 GB Hard drive Balance of warranty - 2 years $1800 Contact on 9291 3162 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry Pohl
Re: ADSL/Cable
Onno Benschop wrote: But what did your spell-checker make of my name? Suggestions No On One Onto Onion I was tempted on the last one! :) Peter
Re slow formatting and printing in Word
Hi WAMUGGERs A small good news story! I posted a query a couple of weeks back about Word 2001 being slow to carry out certain formatting tasks and slow sending print jobs to the printer. Having had a couple of helpful replies (trashing Word preferences, reducing the font list etc), but no improvement in performance, I found the solution today turn off Norton Antivirus. What a difference! I¹m off to format everything in sight just because I can. Cheers Neil [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Anti Virus Software - Was: Re: slow formatting and printing in Word
At 14:21 8/02/02 +0800, Neil Blake Associates wrote: turn off Norton Antivirus. What a difference! What I do for virus software is to: 1. Keep it up to date. 2. Scan the whole machine. 3. Scan any file-server completely. 4. Set the software to only scan when creating files. 5. If you deal with data arriving on disk/cd then scan those as they arrive. This means that already scanned files don't get re-scanned, you don't scan every time you open a file and your machine spends most of its time working for you rather than for virus authors. If you are on a network with other computers, make sure that they also scan when things are created, otherwise you could get a virus that transfers from an infected computer to your file server and then to you. -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
Thanx Shay, That was my interpretation...however...it begs the question as to why the machine has a clearly labelled MP3 as one of the playable formats on the console/window, the box it came in and the manual!! My suspicion is that the proliferation of MP3s has caused some companies to flog MP3 capability as a selling point! Is it worth my while kicking up a stink (i.e. posting the name/model/brand on a number of mailing lists as it was definitely a selling point with me - considering a friend has a different brand DVD player which he assures me DOES play MP3s!!!) or chalking it down to experience, very much Let the buyer beware? I've already replied to NEC very saltily that I consider it false advertising... Yours, in humility, Kevin Phyland. P.S. Quite grumpy though... -Original Message- From: Shay Telfer[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Feb 07 18:10:03 PST 2002 Subject: Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems... Hi every1, After much mucking about with different burn formats I finally emailed the maker of the DVD player, NEC and received the following rather cryptic reply. If anyone can decipher it I'd really appreciate it... -- Hello The NDV-21 will not play back MP3's from a burnt disc. It will only play back a pressed commercial disc. Page 40 of the Instruction gives you the disc's that it will not play. It would appear that their saying that the drive in the unit only works on CD's not CD-RW's or CD-R's. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
Is it worth my while kicking up a stink (i.e. posting the name/model/brand on a number of mailing lists as it was definitely a selling point with me - considering a friend has a different brand DVD player which he assures me DOES play MP3s!!!) or chalking it down to experience, very much Let the buyer beware? It does seem somewhat dodgy given that I've never seen a 'pressed' MP3 CD for sale in the CD stores. If you can find any MP3 CD's that have been burned with PC MP3 programs (try your mate with the Acer laptop :) , give them a try, it may be that the format is slightly different and that the player does actually support them. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: FS: Indigo iBook 366 - SOLD
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
On 8/2/02 2:40 PM, Kevin Phyland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth my while kicking up a stink (i.e. posting the name/model/brand on a number of mailing lists as it was definitely a selling point with me - considering a friend has a different brand DVD player which he assures me DOES play MP3s!!!) or chalking it down to experience, very much Let the buyer beware? I have been following this thread with interest, as I have some Chinese DVD player that does everything under the sun, like play MP3s. What I have found out so far is that the mp3 cds I burnt with a pc worked fine, but what I have tried so far with the mac does not work. The one thing that I have not tried yet is naming each mp3 file with the old 8.3 dos naming structure (.mp3). Maybe the mp3 software built into the machine can only understand the old 8.3 filenames, rather than the longer win9x filename format. Would I be correct in saying that? Seeya Rod!
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
The one thing that I have not tried yet is naming each mp3 file with the old 8.3 dos naming structure (.mp3). Maybe the mp3 software built into the machine can only understand the old 8.3 filenames, rather than the longer win9x filename format. Would I be correct in saying that? Most probably yes. They probably also have a .m3u file on them which is the playlist. A quick look at an ISO 9660 MP3 CD (with long joliet filenames) shows a structure of : MP3 CD: AUTORUN.INF MP3: asongtitle.mp3 anothersongtitle.mp3 Playlist.m3u (note that I haven't tried this on an MP3 player, so I don't know if it's right). I think the Toast MP3 CD option probably does it all automagically, but you'd have to check the manual... A Google search for MP3 CD format or the like will reveal the 'standards' :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
At 16:42 8/02/02 +0800, Rod Lavington wrote: On 8/2/02 2:40 PM, Kevin Phyland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth my while kicking up a stink (i.e. posting the name/model/brand on a number of mailing lists as it was definitely a selling point with me - considering a friend has a different brand DVD player which he assures me DOES play MP3s!!!) or chalking it down to experience, very much Let the buyer beware? I have been following this thread with interest, as I have some Chinese DVD player that does everything under the sun, like play MP3s. What I have found out so far is that the mp3 cds I burnt with a pc worked fine, but what I have tried so far with the mac does not work. The one thing that I have not tried yet is naming each mp3 file with the old 8.3 dos naming structure (.mp3). Maybe the mp3 software built into the machine can only understand the old 8.3 filenames, rather than the longer win9x filename format. Would I be correct in saying that? *** SPECULATION AHEAD *** USER BEWARE *** At this point I'm *guessing* that the CD's that work are being burnt on a PeeCee are standard ISO9660 cd's and that the CD's being burnt on a Mac are using the Joiliet extension. The most obvious difference is support for long file names. So, most burning software will support renaming files to conform to real ISO9660 standard. If you don't do the rename, then it's not an ISO 9660 disk, so I'm *guessing* it barfs... I'd also be very surprised if it supported sessions, so you'll need to burn a whole disk. -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re cartridges and ink
I meant to put this in my last request but forgot. Where does one buy the cheapest cartridges for a Stylewriter 1200. Thank you Diana James
Re servers
I am due to pay my current server - who I am not very happy with - another six months subscription of $105.60. Can anyone recommend a server who is a bit cheaper? Thanks...Diana James
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
Have you tried burning one onto a CD-R Digital Audio Disk?? Hi every1, After much mucking about with different burn formats I finally emailed the maker of the DVD player, NEC and received the following rather cryptic reply. If anyone can decipher it I'd really appreciate it... -- Hello The NDV-21 will not play back MP3's from a burnt disc. It will only play back a pressed commercial disc. Page 40 of the Instruction gives you the disc's that it will not play. Regards John O'Connor NEC HE Service 131 632 -Original Message- From: HE Service Sent: Wed, Feb 06, 2002 9:00 To: John O'connor Subject: FW: NEC DVD Player Model NDV-21 -Original Message- From: Kevin Phyland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 6:44 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NEC DVD Player Model NDV-21 Hi, Santa was kind enough to give me an NEC DVD player model NDV-21 for Christmas. It says in both the manual and on the front of the machine that it is capable of playing MP3s on CD. I've tried a number of different formats (ISO 9660 etc..) and still haven't been able to get anything but a DISK ERROR message with any of the formats that I've tried. I'd just like to know what I'm doing wrong with the format burning... Can you help? Cheers, Kevin Phyland Wycheproof, Vic. [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. I've tried with less than 60 tracks, more than 60 tracks etc...frankly I'm stumped. I've tried burning disks on Macs, IBM-compatibles etc...??? ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re servers
At 11:31 8/02/02 +0800, Diana James wrote: I am due to pay my current server - who I am not very happy with - another six months subscription of $105.60. Can anyone recommend a server who is a bit cheaper? I'm guessing here that you're referring to your Internet Service Provider - the people who provide you with Internet connectivity. A totally alternative explanation that is just occurring to me, could be that you're referring to your hosting company - the people who provide web space for you. Six months for $105.60 means $17.60 per month, that's cheap for either service last time I looked. When you say, who I am not very happy with what aspect of their service are you not happy with? There are free Internet Service Providers around - most are going broke - and there is free hosting to be had - with very limited support. The WAMUG members can help you, but you'll need to give us more information... -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telnet Automation in OSX
Hi all, Wondering if anyone knows how to automate telnet in OSX? I made this apple script for 9. And then used chronotask to Reload it every 8 hours. I need something that will log me in every 8 hours. And if the previous session is active to logout first. This is my old script property MyUserName : -- substitute your log-in name here property MyHost : -- substitute your connection host here property MyPass : *** -- substitute your password here on run tell application MacTelnet connect to MyHost name my automatically-logged-in connection delay 3 -- give the connection a chance to open copy connection 1 to my_connection -- send AYT to my_connection -- sends ³are you there?² -- wait for [Yes] send MyUserName to my_connection with newline -- substitute your user name here delay 2 -- give the connection a chance to display pass prompt send MyPass to my_connection with newline delay 5 -- give the connection a chance to think end tell end run Is terminal scriptable? Regards, Scott Palmer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Almost there...
Hey everyone :) Thanks for the help with the Mac-PC issues that we were having. I didn¹t manage to get the two machines to file share with each other so I have set up the PC box as an FTP server. So the Mac can now download files via IE, which is great. However, it would be great to also go the other way. This would either involve setting the Mac up as an FTP server, or allowing the Mac to upload via FTP to the PC. With regards to the latter, I have set the FTP service on the PC up so that write access is enabled, but it still doesn¹t seem possible to upload from the Mac (through IE). Once again, I am a little unsure of what the options are or what the best way to do this is. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for all the help. :) Ben EYE IN THE SKY PRODUCTIONS - Visual Promotion for the Aviation Industry - Photography (Air-to-air, static, mood, illustrative) - Graphic design book packaging - Internet design build - Picture library (international collection by Jon Davison) - Graphic Design (books, brochures, reports, cards etc) - QuicktimeVR 360 panoramas (interiors, exteriors, details etc) - Design Publishing - PowerPoint presentations - CD Roms Phone: +61 (08) 9380 6508 Mobile: 0403 235 938 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our website at: http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Telnet Automation in OSX
At 14:26 8/02/02 +0800, Scott wrote: Wondering if anyone knows how to automate telnet in OSX? [Applescript solution deleted] You're now running a computer with a real operating system, so you can use real tools - things like shell scripts :-) You could do something *like* this in a shell script; it will loop forever and wait until the telnet terminates, then starts it again: while [true] ; do telnet wait done What I'm really wondering is what you're attempting with a constantly open telnet session. Unless both machines are behind the same firewall and you've got control over both and the rest of the network, I wouldn't be using telnet in this day and age. -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
Thanx again all, Hmmnn...My very first post about this problem (I think) mentioned not to use the Joliet version of ISO 9660...is that right or did I misunderstand? Also...(big time newbie here!)...the stuff that was mentioned about filenames...(.m3u and AUTORUN.INF??) is it possible to put them onto the CD somehow? Maybe that's the problem? Yours in total mystery, Kevin. -Original Message- From: Shay Telfer[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Feb 08 01:03:35 PST 2002 Subject: Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems... The one thing that I have not tried yet is naming each mp3 file with the old8.3 dos naming structure (.mp3). Maybe the mp3 software built into the machine can only understand the old 8.3 filenames, rather than the longer win9x filename format. Would I be correct in saying that? Most probably yes. They probably also have a .m3u file on them which is the playlist. A quick look at an ISO 9660 MP3 CD (with long joliet filenames) shows a structure of : MP3 CD: AUTORUN.INF MP3: asongtitle.mp3 anothersongtitle.mp3 Playlist.m3u (note that I haven't tried this on an MP3 player, so I don't know if it's right). I think the Toast MP3 CD option probably does it all automagically, but you'd have to check the manual... A Google search for MP3 CD format or the like will reveal the 'standards' :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems...
Ta Rod, However, the CDs that work are working on my friend's DVD player not mine still no luck... I'm curious about Scott's suggestion about different types of CD-R Audio Disks though... Kevin. -Original Message- From: Rod Lavington[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Feb 08 04:20:58 PST 2002 Subject: Re: More DVD/MP3 Problems... *** SPECULATION AHEAD *** USER BEWARE *** At this point I'm *guessing* that the CD's that work are being burnt on a PeeCee are standard ISO9660 cd's and that the CD's being burnt on a Mac are using the Joiliet extension. Try burning one in iTunes with filenames that contain the 8.3 format (don't forget to change your cd burning preferences first to MP3 cd). I just tried a short one and it worked fine. I think the 8.3 might be the key to get your mp3s to play in the DVD player. Now, is there an Applescript that will convert a folder of music to 8.3 format? Seeya Rod! Ps who is happy now that he knows that his MP3 playing DVD player now works with Mac burnt CDs! Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
A Cautionary Tale to WAMUGers re Guidelines
Look down, for the response is at the top. The foot is at your head. - 21st Century 'Think Differenter ___ Dear WAMUGers In the tedious debate about email ettiquite, let's not overlook some basics. When someone needs help,they call for it. In WAMUG, members use the list to call for help; to share knowledge and experiences, and to express happiness and other emotions of friendship and support. Others listen, read, respond or ignore. Does it matter if members haven't followed appropriate protocols? They are all real people who seek answers to real problems. Ignoring the protocols, shouldn't we answer the questions? Members seek advice and help and we have a responsibility to respond. Surely that is a basic premise of membership * If your advice is: Read the appropriate response standards and follow the 13 rules before asking that question again, say goodbye to that member. If your advice is: Research the archives, because there is a thread from 3 months past, so be it. Our member might ask again and remain as such. If your advice is: I remember 'Sean' said that last week!, then so be it, they can contact Sean. If your advice is: That happened to me yesterday: this is what I did. Why not go and try it yourself. Fantastic, now you're getting personal. After all, even though these people are only names and words on a mailing list, they are real people, with wives, girlfriends, babies, grandchildren, friends, a job, another life, and most probably a Mac, which they love just about as much. Please GMUGers, don't lose sight of what we are about. Cut the crap and let's get back to core service. Our members are our friends and the future. Regards Reg [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
A Cautionary Tale to WAMUGers re Guidelines
Look down, for the response is at the top. The foot is at your head. - 21st Century 'Think Differenter ___ Dear WAMUGers In the tedious debate about email ettiquite, let's not overlook some basics. When someone needs help,they call for it. In WAMUG, members use the list to call for help; to share knowledge and experiences, and to express happiness and other emotions of friendship and support. Others listen, read, respond or ignore. Does it matter if members haven't followed appropriate protocols? They are all real people who seek answers to real problems. Ignoring the protocols, shouldn't we answer the questions? Members seek advice and help and we have a responsibility to respond. Surely that is a basic premise of membership * If your advice is: Read the appropriate response standards and follow the 13 rules before asking that question again, say goodbye to that member. If your advice is: Research the archives, because there is a thread from 3 months past, so be it. Our member might ask again and remain as such. If your advice is: I remember 'Sean' said that last week!, then so be it, they can contact Sean. If your advice is: That happened to me yesterday: this is what I did. Why not go and try it yourself. Fantastic, now you're getting personal. After all, even though these people are only names and words on a mailing list, they are real people, with wives, girlfriends, babies, grandchildren, friends, a job, another life, and most probably a Mac, which they love just about as much. Please WAMUGers, don't lose sight of what we are about. Cut the crap and let's get back to core service. Our members are our friends and the future. Regards Reg * PS Sorry about the GMUG / WAMUG error. Why not come to Sunny Gero one day and meet all the GMUGgers? Reg
Re: servers
Hi Diana If you mean ISP then I would recommend Global Dial (http://www.globaldial.com/ or [EMAIL PROTECTED]), for A$26 pcm I get unlimited on time a 300MB download each month, if I remember correctly if you pay 6 months up front then your download is also unlimited. While I appreciate it is not cheaper I'm not sure what you get for your A$105.60. Yes, I know I have Thai address, but I also run an ISP in WA :-) Don't ask! Cheers Angus I am due to pay my current server - who I am not very happy with - another six months subscription of $105.60. Can anyone recommend a server who is a bit cheaper?
