Re: Iphone Blog?
www.tumblr.com is great too. There are a few apps to post, or you can just email to the address you are given when you sign up. Cheers James On 25/01/2009, at 3:16 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: WordPress has good iPhone support: http://iphone.wordpress.org/ You can get a free blog from WordPress.com. Matt Mullenweg (founder of WordPress) frequently posts photos from his travels to http://ma.tt Glenn. 2009/1/25 Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au: Hi WAMUGers Please does anyone have any advice re an iPhone ap that can be used to post pics and short descriptions of a travel holiday? The Facebook ap? Is there something else/better? Ta Blitto -- Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au http://web.mac.com/blitto The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: How to recycle old software?
Hi Chris If they aren't already registered, you could eBay or give them away. Sell them off or swap for something. If they are registered, then sometimes it's not worth the hassle or time trying to re-register it to someone else. Depends on the type of registration. What version of VPC is it, as an aside note I'm trying to locate an older version 6 or 7, which was the last one they did before it was discontinued. Hope the above helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 25/1/09 4:46 PM, Chris Burton c...@it.net.au wrote: Hi All Im moving house in a few months and starting the clean out process and am wondering what can be done with old, superceded software given that most require online registration. Some I dont use any more, like Virtual PC with updates and Nortons System works. Others like Filemaker, Im still using 6 pro and mobile but have 7 and 8 that I havnt used! Just found 6 keeps on working! Are they of any value to anyone or do I chuck them or is there a way of recycling? Also some Apple software such as ilife 5 and 6 Im looking to get 9 and keynote 1 etc. I just hate throwing good stuff out! Thanks for any advice kind regards chris -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Zip file opening with .cpgz
Hello Everyone I have just downloaded a heap of .zip files using Firefox and when I unzip them they come out with a .zip.cpgz extension and I cannot open them. This happened recently while using Firefox and when I downloaded the same file using Opera, it unzipped with no problem. So, it is Firefox related and unfortunately I forgot about that when I downloaded these files. There has been mention of this problem before and I have found some discussion on the internet but no one seems to be able to suggest how to go open them. I did try Springy software but it wouldn't open them either. Any suggestions, other than going back and downloading them all again using Opera? With thanks. Wendy Coastal Road, Pomponette Mauritius Island -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Zip file opening with .cpgz
Wendy, I have, and continue to have, this problem. Ronni was trying to get to the bottom of it, but I don't think there was any discovery of the root cause other than probably something to do with how they were being compressed to start with. The interim workaround is to decompress the zip files using Stuffit Expander - at least that works for me, but remain interested in learning the root cause. What does Stuffit do differently to Apple's Archive Utility?! Cheers, Steven On 25/01/2009, at 2:00 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Hello Everyone I have just downloaded a heap of .zip files using Firefox and when I unzip them they come out with a .zip.cpgz extension and I cannot open them. This happened recently while using Firefox and when I downloaded the same file using Opera, it unzipped with no problem. So, it is Firefox related and unfortunately I forgot about that when I downloaded these files. There has been mention of this problem before and I have found some discussion on the internet but no one seems to be able to suggest how to go open them. I did try Springy software but it wouldn't open them either. Any suggestions, other than going back and downloading them all again using Opera? With thanks. Wendy Coastal Road, Pomponette Mauritius Island -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Zip file opening with .cpgz
Thanks Steve. I have now downloaded one of the files using Opera and it unzips without the .cpgz extension being added. So, for me, it is a problem with how Firefox handles things. Will let you know if I discover how to open these files, otherwise I am going to have download them all again with Opera. Wendy On 25 Jan 2009, at 15:12, Steven Knowles wrote: Wendy, I have, and continue to have, this problem. Ronni was trying to get to the bottom of it, but I don't think there was any discovery of the root cause other than probably something to do with how they were being compressed to start with. The interim workaround is to decompress the zip files using Stuffit Expander - at least that works for me, but remain interested in learning the root cause. What does Stuffit do differently to Apple's Archive Utility?! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Applications folder wiped...help
Hi, Okay, not having a good long weekend...While updating my laptop's copy of FileMaker today, the entire contents of my Applications and Utilities folders were deleted. It's a PowerBook G4 with Mac OS 10.4.11 (PPC). I don't have an equivalent machine to copy the Applications from. So, I basically need to re-install them all! (I have limited space for backups, so I haven't been backing up my laptop's Applications folder.) So far, I have copied and installed some (old versions) of Apple's core applications and utilities from the original system installation disks. Of course, I will need to update the apps to the latest versions but I can't do that because Software Update was deleted. Now, at this stage, my Library and home directories are fully intact and it's only Applications that are gone. Unfortunately, I can't install most of the core applications without running the OS X installer, which not only wants me to restart but will probably clobber my /Library folder with old files, too (I think the installer discs are 10.4.2). That's if it can overcome all the cached /Library/Receipts. In any case, I don't want to shut down or restart the laptop because I'm afraid it won't be able to start up again. I am guessing that my best bet is to find a machine with the same hardware and OS version, and then copy the /Applications back. In the mean time, I might try to look through the invisible files on the Installer CD to see if there are application packages in there. Does anyone know of a utility that will show me all the Applications I had installed (e.g. by parsing the contents of /Library/Receipts)? Has anyone experienced this before and have some advice? James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Applications folder wiped...help
Hi James Have you tried DataRescue? http://www.datarescue.com/photorescue/v3/drdd.htm Reg On 25/01/2009, at 9:46 PM, James Devenish wrote: Hi, Okay, not having a good long weekend...While updating my laptop's copy of FileMaker today, the entire contents of my Applications and Utilities folders were deleted. It's a PowerBook G4 with Mac OS 10.4.11 (PPC). I don't have an equivalent machine to copy the Applications from. So, I basically need to re-install them all! (I have limited space for backups, so I haven't been backing up my laptop's Applications folder.) So far, I have copied and installed some (old versions) of Apple's core applications and utilities from the original system installation disks. Of course, I will need to update the apps to the latest versions but I can't do that because Software Update was deleted. Now, at this stage, my Library and home directories are fully intact and it's only Applications that are gone. Unfortunately, I can't install most of the core applications without running the OS X installer, which not only wants me to restart but will probably clobber my /Library folder with old files, too (I think the installer discs are 10.4.2). That's if it can overcome all the cached /Library/Receipts. In any case, I don't want to shut down or restart the laptop because I'm afraid it won't be able to start up again. I am guessing that my best bet is to find a machine with the same hardware and OS version, and then copy the /Applications back. In the mean time, I might try to look through the invisible files on the Installer CD to see if there are application packages in there. Does anyone know of a utility that will show me all the Applications I had installed (e.g. by parsing the contents of /Library/Receipts)? Has anyone experienced this before and have some advice? James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Applications folder wiped...help
are you really sure that you deleted the whole application folder, it needs quite a few clicks to destroy them, but is it possible that they are just invisible, 'show hide' can make hidden stuff visible another thing: go to volume/library/receipts there you see what you have/had installed, i'm not sure how far you can retrieve your apps in running these receipts (some are updates only) it seems you never made a backup onto another drive i'm using the powerbook g4 17 (virtually the same machine as yours) but i may not have all the applications you need boot of you original disk (hold c down during startup) do the roaming in that way, the startup menue (! before installer!!) has pull downs there you can use diskutility to check if you hd is still ok, or just go into finder see if your hd appears as a volume you can open view also bear in mind the application folder can be on 2 places volume/application volume/user/application what can happen if you are tired: you may clicked onto the app folder move it into another folder, you did not say if you have an empty app folder or if the folder is not there anymore good luck James On 25/01/2009, at 21:46, James Devenish wrote: Hi, Okay, not having a good long weekend...While updating my laptop's copy of FileMaker today, the entire contents of my Applications and Utilities folders were deleted. It's a PowerBook G4 with Mac OS 10.4.11 (PPC). I don't have an equivalent machine to copy the Applications from. So, I basically need to re-install them all! (I have limited space for backups, so I haven't been backing up my laptop's Applications folder.) So far, I have copied and installed some (old versions) of Apple's core applications and utilities from the original system installation disks. Of course, I will need to update the apps to the latest versions but I can't do that because Software Update was deleted. Now, at this stage, my Library and home directories are fully intact and it's only Applications that are gone. Unfortunately, I can't install most of the core applications without running the OS X installer, which not only wants me to restart but will probably clobber my /Library folder with old files, too (I think the installer discs are 10.4.2). That's if it can overcome all the cached /Library/Receipts. In any case, I don't want to shut down or restart the laptop because I'm afraid it won't be able to start up again. I am guessing that my best bet is to find a machine with the same hardware and OS version, and then copy the /Applications back. In the mean time, I might try to look through the invisible files on the Installer CD to see if there are application packages in there. Does anyone know of a utility that will show me all the Applications I had installed (e.g. by parsing the contents of /Library/Receipts)? Has anyone experienced this before and have some advice? James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Applications folder wiped...help
On 25/01/2009, at 9:46 PM, James Devenish wrote: Hi, Okay, not having a good long weekend...While updating my laptop's copy of FileMaker today, the entire contents of my Applications and Utilities folders were deleted. It's a PowerBook G4 with Mac OS 10.4.11 (PPC). I don't have an equivalent machine to copy the Applications from. So, I basically need to re-install them all! (I have limited space for backups, so I haven't been backing up my laptop's Applications folder.) So far, I have copied and installed some (old versions) of Apple's core applications and utilities from the original system installation disks. Of course, I will need to update the apps to the latest versions but I can't do that because Software Update was deleted. You could use Pacifist to access the various Apps on the instal disk including Software Update . Now, at this stage, my Library and home directories are fully intact and it's only Applications that are gone. Unfortunately, I can't install most of the core applications without running the OS X installer, If you only lost the Applications folder then all the necessary system bits will still be in Library or System - Library. Pacifist will let you access all the core applications that you need for the Applications Folder straight from the Installer Disks . Bob which not only wants me to restart but will probably clobber my /Library folder with old files, too (I think the installer discs are 10.4.2). That's if it can overcome all the cached /Library/Receipts. In any case, I don't want to shut down or restart the laptop because I'm afraid it won't be able to start up again. I am guessing that my best bet is to find a machine with the same hardware and OS version, and then copy the /Applications back. In the mean time, I might try to look through the invisible files on the Installer CD to see if there are application packages in there. Does anyone know of a utility that will show me all the Applications I had installed (e.g. by parsing the contents of /Library/Receipts)? Has anyone experienced this before and have some advice? James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Applications folder wiped...help
Hi all, Thanks for the feedback. Apart from the deleted folder contents, my startup disk is as good as can be expected (filesystem, permissions, and SMART all report A-okay). I can confirm that the contents of the folder were actually deleted, not moved, but that it was only /Applications and not /Library affected. I have downloaded Data Rescue and am having a look at it. I had forogotten about Pacifist. My only concern is that some packages (e.g., Safari) will most likely install bits and pieces into /Library which will then give me a mixture of 10.4.11 and 10.4.2 on the disk. At this stage, it seems like my best bet is still to find an equivalent machine to copy off (which I am confident I can do tomorrow). Thanks for all the brainstorming! James. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Zip file opening with .cpgz
-- Wendy, I guess this won't help you, but I'm curious to know which version of Firefox you are using? Why I ask, I use Firefox to access various chinese-character sites, and when Firefox offered upgrade to v 3.0, found this did not always handle chinese stuff correctly. I went back to version 2.0.0.20, which works OK. I recently tried the latest Firefox update (3.0.5?) and the problem was still there. -- Still, even if you're using v.3.n and this was where your problem lay, and 2.n would work for you, you'd still need to download everything again. Cheers -- David Noel/ 2009 Jan 26 === From: 'Wendy S. Austin' wendy_aus...@mac.com Subject: Re: Zip file opening with .cpgz Date: Sun Jan 25 18:19 Thanks Steve. I have now downloaded one of the files using Opera and it unzips without the .cpgz extension being added. So, for me, it is a problem with how Firefox handles things. Will let you know if I discover how to open these files, otherwise I am going to have download them all again with Opera. Wendy On 25 Jan 2009, at 15:12, Steven Knowles wrote: Wendy, I have, and continue to have, this problem. Ronni was trying to get to the bottom of it, but I don't think there was any discovery of the root cause other than probably something to do with how they were being compressed to start with. The interim workaround is to decompress the zip files using Stuffit Expander - at least that works for me, but remain interested in learning the root cause. What does Stuffit do differently to Apple's Archive Utility?! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: How to recycle old software?
Hi Reg Thanks for the reply. Yes, if you don't want or need it I'd be interested in it. How much did you want for it? Thanks. Kind Regards Daniel On 25/1/09 11:21 PM, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote: Daniel I have VPC7 with DET registration if you like. It's obsolete now so I have no problem giving you registration code. Reg On 25/01/2009, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris If they aren't already registered, you could eBay or give them away. Sell them off or swap for something. If they are registered, then sometimes it's not worth the hassle or time trying to re-register it to someone else. Depends on the type of registration. What version of VPC is it, as an aside note I'm trying to locate an older version 6 or 7, which was the last one they did before it was discontinued. Hope the above helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 25/1/09 4:46 PM, Chris Burton c...@it.net.au wrote: Hi All Im moving house in a few months and starting the clean out process and am wondering what can be done with old, superceded software given that most require online registration. Some I dont use any more, like Virtual PC with updates and Nortons System works. Others like Filemaker, Im still using 6 pro and mobile but have 7 and 8 that I havnt used! Just found 6 keeps on working! Are they of any value to anyone or do I chuck them or is there a way of recycling? Also some Apple software such as ilife 5 and 6 Im looking to get 9 and keynote 1 etc. I just hate throwing good stuff out! Thanks for any advice kind regards chris -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Zip file opening with .cpgz
Hi David, I am using 3.0.5. My main browser is Opera but I have a very bad habit of having heaps of tabs open and because I had a lot files to download, I unwisely decided to do that with Firefox, forgetting the trouble I had had last time I used it for downloading.I cannot remember which version of Firefox I used last time. I have now downloaded them all with Opera and they have opened up correctly. Wendy On 26 Jan 2009, at 07:18, David Noel wrote: Wendy, I guess this won't help you, but I'm curious to know which version of Firefox you are using? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
iiNet Naked DSL disconnected / line dropouts
This isn't specifically Mac related, but if there are any other iiNet users out there ... perhaps you can help me (or maybe this will help you). If you aren't using (or considering) Naked DSL and iiNet, you might want to ignore this altogether. I recently asked to switch from my ADLS2+ account to Naked DSL, so I could keep my existing phone line and still use VOIP via iiNet. Just in case you want to do this as well, be aware that your broadband could be off for up to 15 days (ours was out for 8) and your phone line will be down for a few days as well. I made the mistake of relying on talking to iiNet people and not doing additional research as well. The sales person made no mention of this gap in service, but if you know what to look for it is in the FAQs on the iiNet website. Anyway, after the Naked DSL was connected, it was up for a day or two and then disconnected. A Telstra tech checked the line at our house and at the exchange, and told me (he called my mobile) that my line had been disconnected at the exchange, that he had reconnected and it would now work. So after another 2 days of no broadband (or phone), it worked again. iiNet thinks that lines get 'accidentally knocked out all the time' (yes, that is what iiNet support say), but after doing some research I found this thread: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1129224 From this thread ... I had a tech at my house yesterday that told me an interesting story about one of the most common faults he sees with iiNet Naked lines. When Telstra techs are connecting a new line (for anyone), they are supposed to call up the Cable Assigner to find out which piece of copper cabling to use. Some of the laziest techs will then go searching for their own free piece of cable that is easier to set up (closer to the house or whatever), by checking lines for a dial tone. Since the Naked lines do not have dial tone, the tech will then take that line and use it for someone else's house! So he reckons a big part of his job is going into a house, attaching a cable break finder to the line. If it says 50m or 200m or something like that, then its usually that a Telstra tech has used the exchange line for someone else's house, and your bit of wire has been disconnected. He told me a specific story of a student who had this happen to him three times in the space of a month. Hmm, this suggests my Naked DSL line might be disconnected at the exchange because it doesn't return a dial tone .. and it sounds like the cause of my problem. The tech at the exchange said it had been disconnected, not 'knocked out'. Has anyone else experienced this or something similar? iiNet support assume the cause is accidental, and are not interested in exploring other potential causes. On a separate note, now the physical line is up the Naked DSL service is getting regular drop outs. That is, it will work fine, then stop, and the modem reports the physical line is up but there is no ISP connection. Then after a while the line does connect again (by itself). I had forgotten to remove my ADSL filter - it still worked but the line was noisy. When I figured out it shouldn't be there and took it out, the line quality seemed to improve. However the dropouts have not stopped. Any suggestions on ways to resolve the dropouts would be appreciated. I'm using a Belkin VOIP 4 port wireless modem (F1P1241EGau). iiNet advise this modem is compatible with Naked DSL, and the software (Runtime Code Version: 0.27 (Sep 29 2005 18:19:14) is also compatible. iiNet are convinced it is a line issue and won't look at other options, however I'm hoping someone else in WAMUG has experienced (and solved) this dropout problem. The way I see it, even if I can stop the dropouts, possibly I am going to get the 'accidentally knocked out' line problem occurring whenever a Telstra tech is looking for an available line at the exchange and finds my line without a dial tone. This makes me think Naked DSL is going to be a constant drama. Does this sound familiar to any other Naked DSL users? Glenn. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iiNet Naked DSL disconnected / line dropouts
Hi Glenn, we have had this system for several months now. We live in East Perth. We've not had any major problems, although phone calls do sometimes drop out for no reason (I have 1 hour conversations at times, and they are normally OK). I knew about the break in service whilst it was being installed, I though I read in in the FAQs when we were deciding whether to go for it. So, from my experience, its not normal to have broadband drop outs fairly often, there is an issue that needs to be resolved somehow, though I don't have any suggestions. We've never had the other issue of being disconnected by Telstra, but its useful to know in case it happens. cheers, Susan. On 26/01/2009, at 2:24 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: This isn't specifically Mac related, but if there are any other iiNet users out there ... perhaps you can help me (or maybe this will help you). If you aren't using (or considering) Naked DSL and iiNet, you might want to ignore this altogether. I recently asked to switch from my ADLS2+ account to Naked DSL, so I could keep my existing phone line and still use VOIP via iiNet. Just in case you want to do this as well, be aware that your broadband could be off for up to 15 days (ours was out for 8) and your phone line will be down for a few days as well. I made the mistake of relying on talking to iiNet people and not doing additional research as well. The sales person made no mention of this gap in service, but if you know what to look for it is in the FAQs on the iiNet website. Anyway, after the Naked DSL was connected, it was up for a day or two and then disconnected. A Telstra tech checked the line at our house and at the exchange, and told me (he called my mobile) that my line had been disconnected at the exchange, that he had reconnected and it would now work. So after another 2 days of no broadband (or phone), it worked again. iiNet thinks that lines get 'accidentally knocked out all the time' (yes, that is what iiNet support say), but after doing some research I found this thread: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1129224 From this thread ... I had a tech at my house yesterday that told me an interesting story about one of the most common faults he sees with iiNet Naked lines. When Telstra techs are connecting a new line (for anyone), they are supposed to call up the Cable Assigner to find out which piece of copper cabling to use. Some of the laziest techs will then go searching for their own free piece of cable that is easier to set up (closer to the house or whatever), by checking lines for a dial tone. Since the Naked lines do not have dial tone, the tech will then take that line and use it for someone else's house! So he reckons a big part of his job is going into a house, attaching a cable break finder to the line. If it says 50m or 200m or something like that, then its usually that a Telstra tech has used the exchange line for someone else's house, and your bit of wire has been disconnected. He told me a specific story of a student who had this happen to him three times in the space of a month. Hmm, this suggests my Naked DSL line might be disconnected at the exchange because it doesn't return a dial tone .. and it sounds like the cause of my problem. The tech at the exchange said it had been disconnected, not 'knocked out'. Has anyone else experienced this or something similar? iiNet support assume the cause is accidental, and are not interested in exploring other potential causes. On a separate note, now the physical line is up the Naked DSL service is getting regular drop outs. That is, it will work fine, then stop, and the modem reports the physical line is up but there is no ISP connection. Then after a while the line does connect again (by itself). I had forgotten to remove my ADSL filter - it still worked but the line was noisy. When I figured out it shouldn't be there and took it out, the line quality seemed to improve. However the dropouts have not stopped. Any suggestions on ways to resolve the dropouts would be appreciated. I'm using a Belkin VOIP 4 port wireless modem (F1P1241EGau). iiNet advise this modem is compatible with Naked DSL, and the software (Runtime Code Version: 0.27 (Sep 29 2005 18:19:14) is also compatible. iiNet are convinced it is a line issue and won't look at other options, however I'm hoping someone else in WAMUG has experienced (and solved) this dropout problem. The way I see it, even if I can stop the dropouts, possibly I am going to get the 'accidentally knocked out' line problem occurring whenever a Telstra tech is looking for an available line at the exchange and finds my line without a dial tone. This makes me think Naked DSL is going to be a constant drama. Does this sound familiar to any other Naked DSL users? Glenn. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml
Re: iiNet Naked DSL disconnected / line dropouts
Hi Glenn Check which Firmware version you have as it may need to be updated. You can get it here and it gives you the steps to update it as well. http://www.belkin.com/au/support/article/?lid=enapid=F1PI241EGauaid=6242; scid=0 Kind Regards Daniel On 26/1/09 2:24 PM, Glenn Nicholas gl...@om4.com.au wrote: This isn't specifically Mac related, but if there are any other iiNet users out there ... perhaps you can help me (or maybe this will help you). If you aren't using (or considering) Naked DSL and iiNet, you might want to ignore this altogether. I recently asked to switch from my ADLS2+ account to Naked DSL, so I could keep my existing phone line and still use VOIP via iiNet. Just in case you want to do this as well, be aware that your broadband could be off for up to 15 days (ours was out for 8) and your phone line will be down for a few days as well. I made the mistake of relying on talking to iiNet people and not doing additional research as well. The sales person made no mention of this gap in service, but if you know what to look for it is in the FAQs on the iiNet website. Anyway, after the Naked DSL was connected, it was up for a day or two and then disconnected. A Telstra tech checked the line at our house and at the exchange, and told me (he called my mobile) that my line had been disconnected at the exchange, that he had reconnected and it would now work. So after another 2 days of no broadband (or phone), it worked again. iiNet thinks that lines get 'accidentally knocked out all the time' (yes, that is what iiNet support say), but after doing some research I found this thread: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1129224 From this thread ... I had a tech at my house yesterday that told me an interesting story about one of the most common faults he sees with iiNet Naked lines. When Telstra techs are connecting a new line (for anyone), they are supposed to call up the Cable Assigner to find out which piece of copper cabling to use. Some of the laziest techs will then go searching for their own free piece of cable that is easier to set up (closer to the house or whatever), by checking lines for a dial tone. Since the Naked lines do not have dial tone, the tech will then take that line and use it for someone else's house! So he reckons a big part of his job is going into a house, attaching a cable break finder to the line. If it says 50m or 200m or something like that, then its usually that a Telstra tech has used the exchange line for someone else's house, and your bit of wire has been disconnected. He told me a specific story of a student who had this happen to him three times in the space of a month. Hmm, this suggests my Naked DSL line might be disconnected at the exchange because it doesn't return a dial tone .. and it sounds like the cause of my problem. The tech at the exchange said it had been disconnected, not 'knocked out'. Has anyone else experienced this or something similar? iiNet support assume the cause is accidental, and are not interested in exploring other potential causes. On a separate note, now the physical line is up the Naked DSL service is getting regular drop outs. That is, it will work fine, then stop, and the modem reports the physical line is up but there is no ISP connection. Then after a while the line does connect again (by itself). I had forgotten to remove my ADSL filter - it still worked but the line was noisy. When I figured out it shouldn't be there and took it out, the line quality seemed to improve. However the dropouts have not stopped. Any suggestions on ways to resolve the dropouts would be appreciated. I'm using a Belkin VOIP 4 port wireless modem (F1P1241EGau). iiNet advise this modem is compatible with Naked DSL, and the software (Runtime Code Version: 0.27 (Sep 29 2005 18:19:14) is also compatible. iiNet are convinced it is a line issue and won't look at other options, however I'm hoping someone else in WAMUG has experienced (and solved) this dropout problem. The way I see it, even if I can stop the dropouts, possibly I am going to get the 'accidentally knocked out' line problem occurring whenever a Telstra tech is looking for an available line at the exchange and finds my line without a dial tone. This makes me think Naked DSL is going to be a constant drama. Does this sound familiar to any other Naked DSL users? Glenn. --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
