Fwd: Attachments

[Julie Bedford]

Hi
I used to use a software for mail attachments called  ‘Attachment Tamer’ which 
used to insert an attachment as for example a pdf file, however since upgrading 
to El Capitan, it no longer works, as the software writer has decided not to 
continue upgrading it with each new OS. When I now attach a document, it is 
opened up showing the contents.  When sending numerous attachments ie drawings 
etc, it becomes a complete mess for the other person who receives the email.  
Is there anyway I could attach documents with just their icon showing - eg a 
pdf file ?  

Hope that makes sense

Thanks
Jewels

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Re: Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

[Bill Parker]

Thanks.  Mail Downloads back where it should be.

Bill
> On 19 Jul 2016, at 12:37, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> 1. Press & Hold Option key and Choose “Go to Folder”
> 2. Copy and paste the below path into the resulting Go to the folder: window
> 
>  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads
> 
> 3. Then hit Go
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 12:02 PM, Bill Parker > > wrote:
>> 
>> It was just a one click quick route to the mail downloads that Daniel 
>> installed for me.   
>> 
>> I just tried opt+ the GO and found the Mail alias and another folder called 
>> Mail but nothing in that relating to downloads.
>> 
>> However, the Opt with Go is the only way I can get there.
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 11:40, Ronni Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> Why do you have an alias of the Mail Downloads folder on your Desktop?
>>> 
>>> It is your Home User Library (which is hidden) and The Path is correct:
>>> 
>>>  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads
>>> 
>>> Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose 
>>> “Go to Library” in the Go menu of the Finder 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
>>> 
 On 19 Jul 2016, at 10:57 AM, Bill Parker > wrote:
 
 I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias 
 on my Desktop)
 
 I tried searching = nothing found.
 
 I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:
 
 Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
 Downloads
 
 There is no “library” no “containers” etc.
 
 Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
 still play up.
 
 Any help welcome.
 
 Bill
>>> 
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Re: Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Bill,

1. Press & Hold Option key and Choose “Go to Folder”
2. Copy and paste the below path into the resulting Go to the folder: window

 /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads

3. Then hit Go

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 19 Jul 2016, at 12:02 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> It was just a one click quick route to the mail downloads that Daniel 
> installed for me.   
> 
> I just tried opt+ the GO and found the Mail alias and another folder called 
> Mail but nothing in that relating to downloads.
> 
> However, the Opt with Go is the only way I can get there.
> 
> Bill
>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 11:40, Ronni Brown > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> Why do you have an alias of the Mail Downloads folder on your Desktop?
>> 
>> It is your Home User Library (which is hidden) and The Path is correct:
>> 
>>  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads
>> 
>> Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose 
>> “Go to Library” in the Go menu of the Finder 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 10:57 AM, Bill Parker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias 
>>> on my Desktop)
>>> 
>>> I tried searching = nothing found.
>>> 
>>> I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:
>>> 
>>> Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
>>> Downloads
>>> 
>>> There is no “library” no “containers” etc.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
>>> still play up.
>>> 
>>> Any help welcome.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>> 

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Re: Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

[Bill Parker]

It was just a one click quick route to the mail downloads that Daniel installed 
for me.   

I just tried opt+ the GO and found the Mail alias and another folder called 
Mail but nothing in that relating to downloads.

However, the Opt with Go is the only way I can get there.

Bill
> On 19 Jul 2016, at 11:40, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Why do you have an alias of the Mail Downloads folder on your Desktop?
> 
> It is your Home User Library (which is hidden) and The Path is correct:
> 
>  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads
> 
> Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose 
> “Go to Library” in the Go menu of the Finder 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
> 
>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 10:57 AM, Bill Parker > > wrote:
>> 
>> I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias 
>> on my Desktop)
>> 
>> I tried searching = nothing found.
>> 
>> I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:
>> 
>> Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
>> Downloads
>> 
>> There is no “library” no “containers” etc.
>> 
>> Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
>> still play up.
>> 
>> Any help welcome.
>> 
>> Bill
> 
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[Ronni Brown]

Hi Bill,

Why do you have an alias of the Mail Downloads folder on your Desktop?

It is your Home User Library (which is hidden) and The Path is correct:

 /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads

Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose 
“Go to Library” in the Go menu of the Finder 

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

El Capitan OS X 10.11.5


> On 19 Jul 2016, at 10:57 AM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias on 
> my Desktop)
> 
> I tried searching = nothing found.
> 
> I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:
> 
> Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
> Downloads
> 
> There is no “library” no “containers” etc.
> 
> Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
> still play up.
> 
> Any help welcome.
> 
> Bill


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Cannot find original folder for Mail downloads

[Bill Parker]

I wanted to find the original folder for Mail Downloads  ( I have an alias on 
my Desktop)

I tried searching = nothing found.

I then did a Command +i   and got the pathway:

Original:  /Users/bill/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail 
Downloads

There is no “library” no “containers” etc.

Not sure what is happening here, but Mail and related things like Contacts 
still play up.

Any help welcome.

Bill
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Re: Messages on ipad - iCloud Family Sharing

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for this Ronni, there is a bit of reading to do to digest all that. 

Before I had even spoken to Apple Support, the decision to update my Apple ID 
password was made and reinforced by your indication to do this - I hadn't 
chosen to ignore the advice. I had some family events and busy work periods 
which meant the issue of resolving my daughters Messages issue laid dormant for 
a few FIFO swings. As I work away, I have very limited windows where I can do 
things like this and I have to be at the family home as 13 devices affected - 
making this change with me away would send the house into meltdown. When I 
tried to actually do the update of the password, I couldn't, I ended up in a 
loop which was seemingly preventing me from doing the update. I would log in 
with my original Apple ID credentials which were acknowledged, and would get a 
blank panel (which later was corrected with Apple support help) where the 
update opportunity would subsequently present itself. It may have looked from 
the outside like I was ignoring, but your always accurate advice was certainly 
taken on board when it was provided. I merely used Apple Support to get me out 
of the loop I was in - which they we're able to do for me.

I am inclined towards moving to Family Sharing and with your comprehensive 
notes will be closer than I was prior to the email of yours.

Thanks again very much for the comprehensive notes.

Regards


Pete

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 7:59 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I’ve added to your subject - iCloud Family Sharing
> 
> I was not going to add anything more as I've given you all information on 
> iCloud Family Sharing before, and mentioned that you first needed to update 
> your Apple ID password security. Which you chose to ignore until Apple 
> support also told you to.
> 
> I’ll copy and paste more info from my documents on iCloud Family Sharing below
> ---
> iCloud Family Sharing 
> iCloud Family Sharing requires Yosemite or later, or iOS 8 or later, so I 
> recommend using it only if all your family’s devices are running recent 
> versions of their respective operating systems. If your family fits that 
> profile, here’s what you’ll get for up to six family members:
> 
>   • All family members’ purchases of media from Apple are charged to the 
> credit card of the person you designate as the family organizer. (Family 
> members who have enough credit in their own Apple ID accounts can use that 
> credit to buy something without using the shared card.)
> 
>   • Kids (who can get special Apple IDs of their own even if they’re 
> under 13) can request media purchases from a parent, who must approve each 
> one individually.
> 
>   • All family members can access each others’ media, although you can 
> hide particular items of your own that you don’t want to share.
> 
>   • A shared family photo album, calendar, and reminder list are created.
> 
>   • Family members can more easily share their locations (with Find My 
> Friends) and locate their devices (with Find My Device).
> 
> Partial workarounds for some of these things already existed, but Family 
> Sharing makes the process much more convenient.
> —
> Enable Family Sharing
> You can enable Family Sharing on either a Mac or an iOS device. Once it’s 
> enabled on one of your devices, it’s enabled on all of them. I’ll explain the 
> steps on a Mac here; if you use an iOS device, the process is similar except 
> you go to Settings > iCloud to start. Follow these steps:
> 
>   1. On a Mac, go to System Preferences > iCloud.
> 
>   2. Click Set Up Family.
> 
>   3. Click through five informational screens, confirming that you really 
> want to do this, and agreeing to the terms and conditions.
> 
>   4. In the dialog that appears, click Add Family Member to add one or 
> more family members:
> 
>   • ‣  For adults (and children with existing Apple IDs): Select 
> “Enter a family member’s name or email address,” enter the name or address, 
> and click Continue. Each invited family member will receive an email 
> invitation and must follow its instructions to accept the invitation.
> 
>   • ‣  For children without Apple IDs: Select “Create an Apple ID 
> for a child who doesn’t have an account,” click Continue, and then follow the 
> prompts. (See below Your Child’s Password, for important advice on choosing a 
> password.) You’ll have to select an iCloud username for your child (which 
> will become the child’s Apple ID), but then several screens go by before 
> you’re told if that username is available. If it isn’t, you’ll have to go 
> back to the child’s information screen, enter a new choice, and then step 
> through the process again—but at least the information you entered previously 
> will still be there.
> 
> Enter your credit card’s three- or four-digit security code when prompted.
> 
> To add another member, click the plus   button and 
> repeat this 

Re: Messages on ipad - How Apple could improve Family Sharing

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for that Neil, the writer seems to be user who has a heavy use of cloud 
based data storage. I am not and this is a legacy of pre-cloud data storage 
days. I accept that cloud storage gives a level of data security that local 
hard disc/Time Capsule backups don't have (in the event of theft/fire etc) but 
for the moment that's what I have and am happy with the triple redundancy I 
have currently across numerous storage discs. 

The other aspect he was noting is the Photo storage cross family use-ability. 
This aspect is also not one I have moved into. I am happy with my 'own' Photos 
library and wife, kids etc theirs too even if this results in some duplication 
of storage and backup - the data storage space is relatively cheap. We can 
still share between us using the "Family" share album facility and achieve what 
we need there with the standard 5GB for all of us.

He does however lead me to believe Family Sharing is still in its infancy and 
has some way to go. 

Whilst the current configuration I have is not perfect, I think from reading 
this, moving to a Family Sharing environment will also be not perfect even 
though the reported issues in the link story are not issues that matter to me 
at all. 

Regards


Pete

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 7:26 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> No direct experience, but I recently read this:
> 
> 
> I guess the “how it could be improved” bit implies current limitations – 
> which may or may not be important to you.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 18/7/16 17:46, Peter Crisp at petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I did eventually get this resolved. I had to take the plunge and 
> update my Apple ID password - ugghhh. Anyway, it was relatively simple and 
> without complications. As soon as I made the change - all my kids came to me 
> holding their respective devices saying “Dad, I have to update the password, 
> what do I do”! This was expected and simply resolved by entering the 
> password. It happens a few times on each device for various reasons, app 
> purchasing, Find my iPhone and some other things too much to remember. 
> 
> However, I still have my entire family (13 devices in aggregate) with one 
> AppleID which causes a level of workarounds with some iOS features to avoid 
> overlap of data. 
> 
> I am still wondering if I should take the plunge to move the other 4 family 
> members to their own Apple ID - and set them up as Family Shared members 
> under me as the Organiser. 
> 
> Has anyone got any first hand advice on this question and any reason why I 
> should or should not migrate to a Family Shared environment?
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> petercr...@westnet.com.au
> 
> 
> 
> On 30 Jun 2016, at 7:23 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi again, I spent half an hour on the phone to apple support. The lady was 
> very helpful and convinced me that I will have to change my Apple ID 
> password. BUT, before I do that, I’d like to understand if there is 
> sufficient motivational pressure to make the move to a Family Shared 
> environment at the same time - or even in a serial fashion.
> 
> Anyone have any first hand experience of Family Sharing with multiple family 
> members and with >10 devices?
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> petercr...@westnet.com.au
> 
> 
> 
> On 29 Jun 2016, at 7:22 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, thanks for your in situ replies. See my replies alongside below.
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> petercr...@westnet.com.au
> 
> 
> 
> On 29 Jun 2016, at 1:13 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> My comments in situ.
> 
> On 28 Jun 2016, at 8:15 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, I did that and still no good. I then did a "Clear all content and 
> settings" and then restore from backup - same issue after setup.
> 
> I am puzzled by my inability to being able to get into the "Manage your Apple 
> ID" page. When logging in I am presented with "Update your Apple ID". A bit 
> of a Catch 22 situation. To get into Update the Apple ID, I need to be able 
> to log in, I am unable to log in as I am presented with "Update your Apple 
> ID" BEFORE I can go any further.
> 
> Sounds like Apple wants you to update your password to a more secure password 
> and add ‘two-factor authentication' if you haven’t already.  
>  >  < 
> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201303>
> 
> I’ll review the links on this.
> 
> This issue with Messages below is only affecting ONE device out of 13 in my 
> family, and at that, it is just affecting the ability to send iMessages - for 
> my 9 yo daughter! Hardly the strongest motivator for me to resolve urgently, 
> but 

Re: Messages on ipad - iCloud Family Sharing

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter,

I’ve added to your subject - iCloud Family Sharing

I was not going to add anything more as I've given you all information on 
iCloud Family Sharing before, and mentioned that you first needed to update 
your Apple ID password security. Which you chose to ignore until Apple support 
also told you to.

I’ll copy and paste more info from my documents on iCloud Family Sharing below
---
iCloud Family Sharing 
iCloud Family Sharing requires Yosemite or later, or iOS 8 or later, so I 
recommend using it only if all your family’s devices are running recent 
versions of their respective operating systems. If your family fits that 
profile, here’s what you’ll get for up to six family members:

• All family members’ purchases of media from Apple are charged to the 
credit card of the person you designate as the family organizer. (Family 
members who have enough credit in their own Apple ID accounts can use that 
credit to buy something without using the shared card.)

• Kids (who can get special Apple IDs of their own even if they’re 
under 13) can request media purchases from a parent, who must approve each one 
individually.

• All family members can access each others’ media, although you can 
hide particular items of your own that you don’t want to share.

• A shared family photo album, calendar, and reminder list are created.

• Family members can more easily share their locations (with Find My 
Friends) and locate their devices (with Find My Device).

Partial workarounds for some of these things already existed, but Family 
Sharing makes the process much more convenient.
—
Enable Family Sharing
You can enable Family Sharing on either a Mac or an iOS device. Once it’s 
enabled on one of your devices, it’s enabled on all of them. I’ll explain the 
steps on a Mac here; if you use an iOS device, the process is similar except 
you go to Settings > iCloud to start. Follow these steps:

1. On a Mac, go to System Preferences > iCloud.

2. Click Set Up Family.

3. Click through five informational screens, confirming that you really 
want to do this, and agreeing to the terms and conditions.

4. In the dialog that appears, click Add Family Member to add one or 
more family members:

• ‣  For adults (and children with existing Apple IDs): Select 
“Enter a family member’s name or email address,” enter the name or address, and 
click Continue. Each invited family member will receive an email invitation and 
must follow its instructions to accept the invitation.

• ‣  For children without Apple IDs: Select “Create an Apple ID 
for a child who doesn’t have an account,” click Continue, and then follow the 
prompts. (See below Your Child’s Password, for important advice on choosing a 
password.) You’ll have to select an iCloud username for your child (which will 
become the child’s Apple ID), but then several screens go by before you’re told 
if that username is available. If it isn’t, you’ll have to go back to the 
child’s information screen, enter a new choice, and then step through the 
process again—but at least the information you entered previously will still be 
there.

Enter your credit card’s three- or four-digit security code when prompted.

To add another member, click the plus   button and repeat this process.

• When you’re done, click Done.

To add or remove people later, go to System Preferences > iCloud and click 
Manage Family. You can then change family members or adjust their details.

Your Child’s Password

Your child’s account password, like any iCloud account password, must meet 
Apple’s minimum requirements—“at least eight characters, a number, an uppercase 
letter, and a lowercase letter.” Normally I would suggest making passwords 
stronger than the minimum.

However, in the case of a password for a very young child— consider keeping it 
on the simpler side. That’s because the child will need to enter the password 
in order to Use Ask to Buy—and if your child has to pester you to look up and 
enter a long, complex password every time he wants to download a game, that 
defeats part of the purpose of Ask to Buy in the first place, in that the child 
can’t complete the process independently of the parent. On the flip side, the 
presence of Ask to Buy (assuming you have it enabled) reduces the security risk 
of a less-strong password.
—
Share Calendar and Reminders
Each participating family member automatically has a Family calendar added to 
Calendar (on OS X and iOS, and in the Calendar Web app) and a Family reminder 
list added to Reminders. So, any events or reminders you assign to Family will 
appear for all family members.

But what if you already had a shared family calendar (whether or not it was 
called “Family”)? That calendar will still exist alongside the new one. If you 
want to switch over to the new Family calendar without losing all the events in 
your old family 

Re: Messages on ipad - How Apple could improve Family Sharing

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Peter,

No direct experience, but I recently read this:


I guess the ³how it could be improved² bit implies current limitations ­
which may or may not be important to you.


HTH



Cheers




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on 18/7/16 17:46, Peter Crisp at petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

> Hi all, I did eventually get this resolved. I had to take the plunge and
> update my Apple ID password - ugghhh. Anyway, it was relatively simple and
> without complications. As soon as I made the change - all my kids came to me
> holding their respective devices saying ³Dad, I have to update the password,
> what do I do²! This was expected and simply resolved by entering the password.
> It happens a few times on each device for various reasons, app purchasing,
> Find my iPhone and some other things too much to remember.
> 
> However, I still have my entire family (13 devices in aggregate) with one
> AppleID which causes a level of workarounds with some iOS features to avoid
> overlap of data. 
> 
> I am still wondering if I should take the plunge to move the other 4 family
> members to their own Apple ID - and set them up as Family Shared members under
> me as the Organiser.
> 
> Has anyone got any first hand advice on this question and any reason why I
> should or should not migrate to a Family Shared environment?
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> petercr...@westnet.com.au
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 7:23 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again, I spent half an hour on the phone to apple support. The lady was
>> very helpful and convinced me that I will have to change my Apple ID
>> password. BUT, before I do that, I¹d like to understand if there is
>> sufficient motivational pressure to make the move to a Family Shared
>> environment at the same time - or even in a serial fashion.
>> 
>> Anyone have any first hand experience of Family Sharing with multiple family
>> members and with >10 devices?
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> petercr...@westnet.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 7:22 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni, thanks for your in situ replies. See my replies alongside below.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter Crisp
>>> petercr...@westnet.com.au
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 29 Jun 2016, at 1:13 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 My comments in situ.
 
> On 28 Jun 2016, at 8:15 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, I did that and still no good. I then did a "Clear all content
> and settings" and then restore from backup - same issue after setup.
> 
> I am puzzled by my inability to being able to get into the "Manage your
> Apple ID" page. When logging in I am presented with "Update your Apple
> ID". A bit of a Catch 22 situation. To get into Update the Apple ID, I
> need to be able to log in, I am unable to log in as I am presented with
> "Update your Apple ID" BEFORE I can go any further.
 
 Sounds like Apple wants you to update your password to a more secure
 password and add Œtwo-factor authentication' if you haven¹t already.
  >  <
 https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201303>
>>> 
>>> I¹ll review the links on this.
 
> This issue with Messages below is only affecting ONE device out of 13 in
> my family, and at that, it is just affecting the ability to send iMessages
> - for my 9 yo daughter! Hardly the strongest motivator for me to resolve
> urgently, but my conviction requires me to sort it! I know if I don't sort
> it, one day it will bite me when I can least afford it.
 
 Are you sure your daughter¹s email is working on her iPad and that iMessage
 is activated & her email address is Œverified¹?
>>> 
>>> I haven¹t yet launched into Mail for her. She has an email address which I
>>> created for her for the sole purpose of enabling iMessages (she has a wifi
>>> only iPad). iMessage is indeed activated (switched to green) and her email
>>> address I believe is verified as it appears in the pick list of available
>>> email addresses and phone numbers in the ³You can be reached by iMessage at²
>>> section across all of the 8 iOS devices in the family. However, as I am
>>> unable to log into my Apple ID manage screen, I can¹t confirm this. BUT, it
>>> has worked in the past with Delivery notices in iMessages etc, is it
>>> possible for it to have become unverified somehow?
>>> 
 
 Have you checked the settings in Messages on daughter¹s iPad that iMessage
 is activated after the iPad was offline (not connected to the Network)?
 Settings > Messages > turn iMessage ON and wait for it to activate.
>>> 
>>> Activation works fine - it goes to the green position after 5 or so seconds.
>>> Been on 

Re: Messages on ipad

[Peter Crisp]

Hi all, I did eventually get this resolved. I had to take the plunge and update 
my Apple ID password - ugghhh. Anyway, it was relatively simple and without 
complications. As soon as I made the change - all my kids came to me holding 
their respective devices saying “Dad, I have to update the password, what do I 
do”! This was expected and simply resolved by entering the password. It happens 
a few times on each device for various reasons, app purchasing, Find my iPhone 
and some other things too much to remember. 

However, I still have my entire family (13 devices in aggregate) with one 
AppleID which causes a level of workarounds with some iOS features to avoid 
overlap of data. 

I am still wondering if I should take the plunge to move the other 4 family 
members to their own Apple ID - and set them up as Family Shared members under 
me as the Organiser. 

Has anyone got any first hand advice on this question and any reason why I 
should or should not migrate to a Family Shared environment?


Peter Crisp
petercr...@westnet.com.au



> On 30 Jun 2016, at 7:23 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi again, I spent half an hour on the phone to apple support. The lady was 
> very helpful and convinced me that I will have to change my Apple ID 
> password. BUT, before I do that, I’d like to understand if there is 
> sufficient motivational pressure to make the move to a Family Shared 
> environment at the same time - or even in a serial fashion.
> 
> Anyone have any first hand experience of Family Sharing with multiple family 
> members and with >10 devices?
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> petercr...@westnet.com.au 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 7:22 PM, Peter Crisp > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, thanks for your in situ replies. See my replies alongside below.
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 1:13 PM, Ronni Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> My comments in situ.
>>> 
 On 28 Jun 2016, at 8:15 PM, Peter Crisp > wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I did that and still no good. I then did a "Clear all content 
 and settings" and then restore from backup - same issue after setup.
 
 I am puzzled by my inability to being able to get into the "Manage your 
 Apple ID" page. When logging in I am presented with "Update your Apple 
 ID". A bit of a Catch 22 situation. To get into Update the Apple ID, I 
 need to be able to log in, I am unable to log in as I am presented with 
 "Update your Apple ID" BEFORE I can go any further.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like Apple wants you to update your password to a more secure 
>>> password and add ‘two-factor authentication' if you haven’t already.  
>>> >  < 
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201303 
>>> >
>> 
>> I’ll review the links on this.
>>> 
 This issue with Messages below is only affecting ONE device out of 13 in 
 my family, and at that, it is just affecting the ability to send iMessages 
 - for my 9 yo daughter! Hardly the strongest motivator for me to resolve 
 urgently, but my conviction requires me to sort it! I know if I don't sort 
 it, one day it will bite me when I can least afford it.
>>> 
>>> Are you sure your daughter’s email is working on her iPad and that iMessage 
>>> is activated & her email address is ‘verified’?
>> 
>> I haven’t yet launched into Mail for her. She has an email address which I 
>> created for her for the sole purpose of enabling iMessages (she has a wifi 
>> only iPad). iMessage is indeed activated (switched to green) and her email 
>> address I believe is verified as it appears in the pick list of available 
>> email addresses and phone numbers in the “You can be reached by iMessage at” 
>> section across all of the 8 iOS devices in the family. However, as I am 
>> unable to log into my Apple ID manage screen, I can’t confirm this. BUT, it 
>> has worked in the past with Delivery notices in iMessages etc, is it 
>> possible for it to have become unverified somehow?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Have you checked the settings in Messages on daughter’s iPad that iMessage 
>>> is activated after the iPad was offline (not connected to the Network)?
>>> Settings > Messages > turn iMessage ON and wait for it to activate.
>> 
>> Activation works fine - it goes to the green position after 5 or so seconds. 
>> Been on the wifi network the whole time - haven’t left the house even.
>> 
>>> 
>>> These instructions work for times when you need to re-activate iMessage due 
>>> to a network error. 
>>> Just toggle it on and off.
>> 
>> I have toggled it off and on a number of times.
>> 
>>> 
 
 A parallel question if there