Re: [Warzone-dev] Future distribution.

2008-12-06 Thread Giel van Schijndel
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 09:29:43PM +0100, Kamaze wrote:
> Windows:
>  * Minimal installer: Includes only the base files, with the ability
>to download the Music/Mods while installing, containing a guide
>where people can get (URL) the Music and FMV packages and where
>they have to put/copy them to make them work.
>
>  * Full installer: Includes everything, Game, Music, FMVs and a zip
>file which contains the source of the release. (excepting the
>"/data" directory, there should be a small textfile, explaining
>that the data is already delivered in the warzone.wz and mp.wz
>which are simple zip files, so that we don't deliver it twice) The
>full installer is basically for redistribution on game magazines
>for example.

Simple answer: no.

Longer answer: this will introduce lots of complexity and will gain us
next to nothing. Not to mention that I don't seen any users (e.g. on the
forums) expressing a need for this. Also keep in mind that if you
present this proposal as such on the forums with a poll "do yo want
this?" "yes/no", the answer will most likely be yes.

Before implenting this I want it to gain *us* something, or have users
themselves actively asking for it. Any other reason would, IMO, be
a symptom of featuritis.

> Linux/Mac:
>  * Split the game into 3 packages: "warzone-base.deb",
>"warzone-music.deb", "warzone-fmv.deb" for example. The base
>package should also deliver a shell/python script which can be
>executed to check for & auto download the music.wz and fmv.wz.
>
> Or maybe merge the Music and FMV's into one package.

if by 'warzone-base.deb' you mean all data except for music (and later
videos) then you just described the current packaging state in Debian.
You might want to talk with Paul Wise about this (pabs on IRC).

Other than that I think we should "impose" our packaging wishes on
distributors as little as possible.

-- 
Giel



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Re: [Warzone-dev] Future distribution.

2008-12-05 Thread Per Inge Mathisen
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Kamaze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux/Mac:
>  * Split the game into 3 packages: "warzone-base.deb",
>   "warzone-music.deb", "warzone-fmv.deb" for example. The base package
>   should also deliver a shell/python script which can be executed to
>   check for & auto download the music.wz and fmv.wz.
>
> Or maybe merge the Music and FMV's into one package.

Two points you should consider:
 * We do not make the Debian/Fedora/Etc packages, so we cannot really
control how they do it.
 * The installed base of these distributions is really enormous. I
think Warzone is default installed in Fedora 10 for at least some
common install methods. If they made scripts to pull FMVs/music from
our web site, it would explode instantly.

  - Per

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[Warzone-dev] Future distribution.

2008-12-05 Thread Kamaze
Hi there,
here is suggestion for the distribution of Warzone 2100 in future:

Windows:
 * Minimal installer: Includes only the base files, with the ability to
   download the Music/Mods while installing, containing a guide where
   people can get (URL) the Music and FMV packages and where they have
   to put/copy them to make them work.

 * Full installer: Includes everything, Game, Music, FMVs and a zip file
   which contains the source of the release. (excepting the "/data"
   directory, there should be a small textfile, explaining that the data
   is already delivered in the warzone.wz and mp.wz which are simple zip
   files, so that we don't deliver it twice) The full installer is
   basically for redistribution on game magazines for example.

Linux/Mac:
 * Split the game into 3 packages: "warzone-base.deb",
   "warzone-music.deb", "warzone-fmv.deb" for example. The base package
   should also deliver a shell/python script which can be executed to
   check for & auto download the music.wz and fmv.wz.

Or maybe merge the Music and FMV's into one package.

Best Regards,
Kamaze

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