Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Good Job Stephen! Re your image replacement for the title - exactly which flavour are you using? I don't think I've seen one which uses an empty span. My personal preference is styling the h1 with the background image and relevant sizes and then nesting a span inside that h1. That nested span

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread William Stewart
I agree with you, Ross. CSS is so much cleaner and easier. I made the jump from tables to CSS (with the help of TopStyle Pro) and I haven't looked back. Kudos to Stephen for doing it right. Will Professional Graphics Artist Certified Web Designer (BCIP) Stewart and Company --

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Using display: none defeats the purpose if accessibility is your concern. That's the Fahrner technique see: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/ They see the same thing you report when css is on and images off. You need to position it off page with a negative (or really high) margin. Might

Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Cheryl I'm not a big fan of image replacement anyway but since we can do so much with web design/development these days (Microsoft browsers permitting of course) but also have so many different aspects to consider 9 times in 10 I move more towards keeping things accessible and don't bother with

Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Stephen Caudill
Ross Clutterbuck wrote: Good Job Stephen! Thanks Ross! Means a lot coming from the Master of the Universe and all :) Re your image replacement for the title - exactly which flavour are you using? I don't think I've seen one which uses an empty span. My personal preference is styling the h1 with

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Cheryl D Wise
FWIW, I don't use the image replacement techniques either since plain text alt tags especially when combined with structural mark-up so the alt gets the proper heading mark-up without images is best in most circumstances. Nice to have options though if needed due to special circumstances. As

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: Stephen Caudill Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com Was wondering if I could get a few folks to mosey by: http://lf.mechavox.com/ And let me know if they encounter any display quirks.

Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Stephen Caudill
Trusz, Andrew wrote: Looks good and all, validates as transitional, but line 33 is: div id=cartWrapper align=center align=center? Oh lord. No telling, really. I guess old habits die hard. I've fixed that Say Drew, you're on *nix right? Is that what you tested on? Using Konqueror?

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: Stephen Caudill Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com Trusz, Andrew wrote: Looks good and all, validates as transitional, but line 33 is: div id=cartWrapper align=center

Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Stephen Caudill
Trusz, Andrew wrote: I am on mandrake at home, at work it's an agency custom image of xp. That may sound innocent but it should make you shudder to the roots of your soul. If you can wait about 2 hours I'll let you know how it looks on Konqueror. Sure! It's not really a biggie, but I am

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Should look about the same as the report I gave you on Safari. It is based on Konqueror. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer Microsoft FrontPage MVP http://wiserways.com -Original Message- From: Stephen Caudill Trusz, Andrew wrote: Looks good and all, validates

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: Stephen Caudill Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com Trusz, Andrew wrote: LOL @ agency custom image of xp... My last work place had custom versions of IE 5.5 that were installed as part

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Linda Cole
Drew: Oh since I haven't figured out (or even found) the new web based interface for the list, I'll have to shoot the reply to the gmail box if that's ok? http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk Thanks, Linda • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An

Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Stephen Caudill
Trusz, Andrew wrote: No you can't imagine that! Nobody is that depraved. This is a sustained, decades long, group effort rooted in ever compounding bad decisions. Oh, sure I can! I've developed along side too many MicroSoftHeads to not be able to imagine it. Glad you're not having to suffer

Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Stephen Caudill
Linda Cole wrote: Drew: Oh since I haven't figured out (or even found) the new web based interface for the list, I'll have to shoot the reply to the gmail box if that's ok? http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk Oooh! I like the new interface :) And you can get an RSS feed too??

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Oh good you were listening! -Original Message- From: Linda Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com Drew: Oh since I haven't figured out (or even found) the new web based interface for

RE: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Linda Cole
At 02:15 PM 12/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: Oh good you were listening! heh heh. Only with half an ear. It's lucky I saw it. If you guys need anything at all (pertaining to the list g), please don't hesitate to contact me directly. Thanks, Linda -Original Message- From: Linda Cole

Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Linda Cole
http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk Oooh! I like the new interface :) And you can get an RSS feed too?? Well, it's not well formed, but I can still pull it up in FeedDemon :) Snifty! Any way we could we get a link put on WDVL to this? I believe it's in the works to have it

[wdvltalk] OT Code in pages vs Code behind pages.

2004-12-08 Thread Hoenig, Robert
Does anyone know the difference between Code in pages and Code behind pages?? This would be in reference to an ASP.Net programming job. Thank you Robert __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

re:[wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Well, one significant problem in Konquerer 3.1.4. The navigation list loads but then becomes obscured. The links change from words to a symbol which looks like stacked equilaeral triangles turned on edge. Other than that, the page looks fine. And you're right, Stephen, the web interface is

Re: [wdvltalk] OT Code in pages vs Code behind pages.

2004-12-08 Thread Stephen Caudill
Hoenig, Robert wrote: Does anyone know the difference between Code in pages and Code behind pages?? This would be in reference to an ASP.Net programming job. Google: http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/100500-1.shtml And I believe it's referred to as Code-Behind by most and Evil by me. If

Re: [wdvltalk] SCR: lf.mechavox.com

2004-12-08 Thread Stephen Caudill
Trusz, Andrew wrote: Well, one significant problem in Konquerer 3.1.4. The navigation list loads but then becomes obscured. The links change from words to a symbol which looks like stacked equilaeral triangles turned on edge. Other than that, the page looks fine. And you're right, Stephen, the

[wdvltalk] Changing IE address bar shortcut Icon

2004-12-08 Thread Hoenig, Robert
I'm trying to change the IE shortcut icon and using LINK REL=shortcut icon href=/icons/ims.ico Also tried LINK REL=icon href=/icons/ims.ico That doesn't seem to be working. I've cleared the cache and still nothing. Thank you Robert

Re: [wdvltalk] Changing IE address bar shortcut Icon

2004-12-08 Thread John Hughes
Robert, Here's what I use link rel = shortcut icon href = /favicon.ico Have you double-checked that your href is pointing to the right place? Also have you created the icon using specific icon builder software like Icon Forge? You're likely to run into problems otherwise. John. -

RE: [wdvltalk] OT Code in pages vs Code behind pages.

2004-12-08 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Code in the page is like classic asp. While code behind is in a separate page and linked to the page via an asp @page declaration: %@ Page Language=vb Codebehind=week21a.aspx.vb Inherits=testdeploy2.WebForm2% In theory it makes code reuse easier. Difficult to work with unless you are using an

RE: [wdvltalk] Changing IE address bar shortcut Icon

2004-12-08 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Should be: link rel=shortcut icon href=favicon.ico I'd check your file path. I also seem to recall that for some you need to have it in the root of your website or have an absolute path to the image. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer Microsoft FrontPage MVP