Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-27 Thread 林 諺
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Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 2, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: I wish WebCore was not trapped by Mac WebKit1’s legacy designs. WebKit2 is obviously a step towards the future. But until we can kill the Widget tree,

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread noam . rosenthal
On 2/3/13 7:46 PM, ext Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: If you're asking about phasing it out entirely, we don't have any immediate plans to deprecate or remove the WebKit1 mac API. There are quite a few Apple and third-party apps using it, and WebKit2 is not even public API on Mac OS X

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:34 AM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: On 2/3/13 7:46 PM, ext Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: If you're asking about phasing it out entirely, we don't have any immediate plans to deprecate or remove the WebKit1 mac API. There are quite a few Apple and

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:34 AM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: On 2/3/13 7:46 PM, ext Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: If you're asking about phasing it out entirely, we don't have any immediate plans to deprecate or

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:34 AM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: On 2/3/13 7:46 PM, ext Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: If you're asking about phasing it out entirely, we don't have any immediate plans to deprecate or remove the WebKit1 mac API. There are quite a few Apple and

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: Yeah, another example is ResourceHandle, which is theoretically a platform-agnostic abstraction but in reality is heavily constrained by the capabilities of

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread noam . rosenthal
On 2/3/13 11:12 PM, ext Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: Maybe the problem is less about the WK1 API layer and more about WebCore/platform. I'm sure that's one problem, but I am still curious what Eric had in mind. Yes, me too, and I don't mean to hijack that conversation :) In many

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-03 Thread Alexey Proskuryakov
03.02.2013, в 11:46, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org написал(а): Yeah, another example is ResourceHandle, which is theoretically a platform-agnostic abstraction but in reality is heavily constrained by the capabilities of CFNetwork. Can you please give some examples of where we are constrained

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Filip Pizlo fpi...@apple.com wrote: Thanks for sharing this. On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I believe changes like

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: Hi Eric, These are great thoughts. I agree with you on all points. One informative comment below: On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Xan Lopez x...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Eric, On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we didn’t have to worry about platforms we couldn’t test. It can’t be the job of the core maintainers to care about all the peripheral ports

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Patrick Gansterer par...@paroga.com wrote: Hi, Am 30.01.2013 um 22:28 schrieb Eric Seidel: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I've created CMake files for two different ports at [1] and [2] already, but did't get

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-02-02 Thread Eric Seidel
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Alexis Menard ale...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-31 Thread Alexis Menard
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an unhealthy sign for the project. Adam is not the only person who has chosen to

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-31 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Alexis Menard ale...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we didn’t have to worry about platforms we couldn’t test. It can’t be the job of the core maintainers to care about all the peripheral

[webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Eric Seidel
*I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files).* * I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an unhealthy sign for the project. Adam is not the only person who has chosen to empty files instead of removing them. The pain of updating 8 build

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Filip Pizlo
Thanks for sharing this. On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an unhealthy sign for the project. Adam is not the only

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
Hi Eric, These are great thoughts. I agree with you on all points. One informative comment below: On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I believe changes like

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Xan Lopez
Hi Eric, On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we didn’t have to worry about platforms we couldn’t test. It can’t be the job of the core maintainers to care about all the peripheral ports which contribute very little core code. Our code needs to be

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: * I wish I felt like reviewers understood/trusted each other more. * *I’ve worked at both Apple and Google. The WebKit community is full of brilliant engineers. Yet I frequently feel a lack of trust in my (or others)

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Patrick Gansterer
Hi, Am 30.01.2013 um 22:28 schrieb Eric Seidel: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I've created CMake files for two different ports at [1] and [2] already, but did't get positive feedback from the port-maintainer. So I stopped working on it. If any

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Dirk Pranke
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Filip Pizlo fpi...@apple.com wrote: Thanks for sharing this. On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). I believe changes like

Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit Wishes

2013-01-30 Thread Žan Doberšek
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote: I wish it were easy to work on feature branches. We have no good solution for features. For one-patch features, you do them on your own. For larger, you maybe use github or most likely you just land on trunk behind a