Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-19 Thread Ojan Vafai
Chromium already uses the installed python for Mac/Linux, which defaults to 2.5. So it sounds like we can safely use 2.5. Ojan On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Marc-Antoine Ruel wrote: > FYI, Chromium folks on Windows will be on python 2.6 real soon(tm). > The CL to bug them to upgrade should b

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-19 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
FYI, Chromium folks on Windows will be on python 2.6 real soon(tm). The CL to bug them to upgrade should be committed within the next few minutes. [Thread hijack] If you're not a Chromium-Webkit committer running on Windows, please ignore the rest of this email. Otherwise, please "del depot_tool

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Barth
Awesome! /me goes and comments on the bug. Adam On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > Mechanize (and ClientForm on which it depends) does work with Python 2.4: > > http://wwwsearch.sourceforge.net/mechanize/ > > (See the section on compatibility.) > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-19 Thread Chris Jerdonek
Mechanize (and ClientForm on which it depends) does work with Python 2.4: http://wwwsearch.sourceforge.net/mechanize/ (See the section on compatibility.) On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > My understanding is that some of the libraries we use, like Mechanize, > don't work in

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Barth
My understanding is that some of the libraries we use, like Mechanize, don't work in Python 2.4. My complaint in Bug 36063 is that we're re-implementing Mechanize poorly. I'd rather we just upgraded the machines that need to run-webkit-tests to a more modern version of Python. Adam On Fri, Mar

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-19 Thread Chris Jerdonek
No one responded back with a summary of the Python 2.4 discussion, so I'll attempt a summary of my own after reading-- https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35584 (If you recall, we are trying to decide what Python code we write needs to work with Python 2.4.) The Chromium project still uses P

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-07 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, David Kilzer wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, March 4, 2010 at 5:35:08 PM, William Siegrist wrote: >>> Since I have a Tiger machine handy, I tested this a

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-07 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, David Kilzer wrote: On Thu, March 4, 2010 at 5:35:08 PM, William Siegrist wrote: Since I have a Tiger machine handy, I tested this and was able to build python 2.5.5 from MacPorts on a PowerPC. It takes a wh

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-07 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, David Kilzer wrote: > On Thu, March 4, 2010 at 5:35:08 PM, William Siegrist wrote: > >> Since I have a Tiger machine handy, I tested this and was able to build >> python >> 2.5.5 from MacPorts on a PowerPC. It takes a while, but it worked. I did not >> try >> pyth

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-05 Thread David Kilzer
On Thu, March 4, 2010 at 5:35:08 PM, William Siegrist wrote: > On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > > > [Resending from correct address.] > > > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > > >> 4) If we have a smooth way to do it, then locally installing a newe

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 4, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote: > > 04.03.2010, в 17:35, William Siegrist написал(а): > >> Since I have a Tiger machine handy, I tested this and was able to build >> python 2.5.5 from MacPorts on a PowerPC. It takes a while, but it worked. I >> did not try python 2.6. >

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread Alexey Proskuryakov
04.03.2010, в 17:35, William Siegrist написал(а): > Since I have a Tiger machine handy, I tested this and was able to build > python 2.5.5 from MacPorts on a PowerPC. It takes a while, but it worked. I > did not try python 2.6. Did it bring many dependencies with it? I've heard enough horror

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 4, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > [Resending from correct address.] > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> 4) If we have a smooth way to do it, then locally installing a newer Python >> as part of the WebKit development process might be acceptable as

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread Chris Jerdonek
[Resending from correct address.] On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > 4) If we have a smooth way to do it, then locally installing a newer Python > as part of the WebKit development process might be acceptable as a part of > the WebKit. After all, everyone developing on Wi

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: I think we should ignore Tiger for the purposes of this discussion. We (Apple) still need to do development on Tiger. We would strong

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread Eric Seidel
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > >> I think we should ignore Tiger for the purposes of this discussion. > > We (Apple) still need to do development on Tiger. We would strongly prefer > that WebKit's tools work on Tiger.

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: I think we should ignore Tiger for the purposes of this discussion. We (Apple) still need to do development on Tiger. We would strongly prefer that WebKit's tools work on Tiger. Regards, Maciej __

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread Dirk Pranke
In case this was missed on the bug, Chromium Win uses 2.4, so, yes. At least until we upgrade to 2.5, and there's no ETA or plan for that at this time. -- Dirk On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > I think we should ignore Tiger for the purposes of this discussion. > > Back to th

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread Eric Seidel
I think we should ignore Tiger for the purposes of this discussion. Back to the original question: does anyone have reasons to need 2.4? -eric On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > There difference between Python 2.3 and 2.5 is pretty large.  What was added > was not esoteric.  

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-04 Thread Jeremy Orlow
There difference between Python 2.3 and 2.5 is pretty large. What was added was not esoteric. Take a look at http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.4.html and http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.5.html Included in there is stuff like try/catch/finally. I totally agree that basic tools (like build-web

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-03 Thread Sam Weinig
I am not sure why we would make a distinction between development tools and and supported platforms. Any scripts checked in need to run on Tiger. If we need to fix a Tiger bug, we boot up Tiger and develop there. -Sam On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, David Levin wrote: > I think it depends on th

Re: [webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-03 Thread David Levin
I think it depends on the tool. Since tiger is still supported by webkit (it is in the buildbot), then any script that run during the build or running layout tests would need to run on python 2.3.5. (The version that shipped with Tiger.) Some development still happens on Leopard (I think), so it

[webkit-dev] minimum python version to support

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Jerdonek
Recently, there has been some off-list discussion about the minimum Python version WebKit should support (i.e. for the Python scripts in WebKitTools/Scripts). Up to this point, we haven't been explicit about it. This ambiguity has occasionally caused things to break for people using versions befo