On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 03:07:33 AM Dirk Pranke wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Benjamin Poulain benja...@webkit.org
wrote:
I am sorry, I should have given more context.
There is visibly a growing discontent in the community about the cost
imposed from small ports. Just
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Benjamin Poulain benja...@webkit.org wrote:
I am sorry, I should have given more context.
There is visibly a growing discontent in the community about the cost
imposed from small ports. Just two weeks ago, there were 2 threads
discussing the cost of
My point is that I think that lots of ports are part of what makes
WebKit the goodness it is. Maybe I'm alone here, or at best part of a
minority, but I wanted us to not lose sight of this idea.
I totally agree. But I also agree with those, who thinks the different
ports should not overburden
On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Eric Seidel wrote:
This entire email thread makes me sad.
I'm sad because we did this to ourselves (our porting systems/policies
are lacking), we did this very abruptly (the last port we kicked out
of webkit.org took a year?), and we don't have any clear
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote:
This entire email thread makes me sad.
I'm sad because we did this to ourselves (our porting systems/policies
are lacking), we did this very abruptly (the last port we kicked out
of webkit.org took a year?), and we
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.comwrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Eric Seidel wrote:
I think if we as a community are actively interested in maintaining as
many ports as we have (and welcoming new ones) we need to come up with
better ways to do
Hi Benjamin,
On Feb 10, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote:
Hi again,
While looking into DRT changes, I notice there is zero activity on the
wxWidgets implementation.
Looking at WebCore/WebKit, excluding general changes, the last commit for
wxWidgets is 6 months old:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.comwrote:
I actually have recently been working on a patch to get trunk building
again, though. The path of least resistance for me would simply be to ask
people to ignore the wx port in their changes, but leave it in the
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Ollivier
kev...@theolliviers.com wrote:
The project is not dead per-se, but it's true that it's not very active
these days. Recently, I haven't had a lot of time to devote to the port. The
other big factor has been that I've been the only active
On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
I actually have recently been working on a patch to get trunk building again,
though. The path of least resistance for me would simply be to ask people to
Hi Martin,
On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Martin Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Ollivier
kev...@theolliviers.com wrote:
The project is not dead per-se, but it's true that it's not very active
these days. Recently, I haven't had a lot of time to devote to the port.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.comwrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Ollivier
kev...@theolliviers.comwrote:
I actually have recently been working on a patch to get trunk building
again,
I'll add that now that https://github.com/WebKit/webkit uses the same
hashing as git.webkit.org, it'll be trivial for folks wanting to have their
own ports to fork on github and maintain svn history.
Maybe we should even encourage that for new ports: initially forking WebKit
on github to create
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com wrote:
Actually, it will, if anything, increase the workload. Because I use waf, I
am able to use Python to auto-generate the list of sources to build. In other
words, I tell it to build all sources in a defined list of
Hi Everyone,
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Asking people to ignore wx is basically the same as having the code
outside the tree. Having the code outside the tree would make this change
effective instead of having one more rule to the project.
My big
On Feb 11, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
I actually have recently been working on a patch to get trunk building
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Brent Fulgham bfulg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Asking people to ignore wx is basically the same as having the code
outside the tree. Having the code outside the tree would make this change
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Brent Fulgham wrote:
Hi Everyone,
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Asking people to ignore wx is basically the same as having the code outside
the tree. Having the code outside the tree would make this change effective
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Meanwhile, are there anything we can do as the WebKit community to help
maintaing a one-man port like Wx in the future? e.g. rebumping build
systems, etc...
I think the recent discussions about standardizing on something
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com wrote:
Hi Martin,
On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Martin Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Ollivier
kev...@theolliviers.com wrote:
The project is not dead per-se, but it's true that it's not very
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Martin Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
Actually, it will, if anything, increase the workload. Because I use waf, I
am able to use Python to auto-generate the list of sources to build. In
other
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Martin Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
Actually, it will, if anything, increase the workload. Because I use waf, I
am
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.comwrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Martin Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
Actually, it will, if anything, increase the workload. Because I use
waf, I
On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Martin Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
Actually, it will, if
On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Martin Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
Actually, it will,
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Martin Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:41
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.comwrote:
I know you're speaking more in general here, but just to be clear, over
the past 6 months, the data hit that WebKit engineers have taken on account
of the wx port is close to 0 bytes. The only time svn up or git
On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:01 PM,
On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.com
wrote:
I know you're speaking more in general here, but just to be clear, over the
past 6
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Kevin Ollivier kev...@theolliviers.comwrote:
To be honest, I think I know more about the wx port, and would probably be
better able to cleanly remove it from the tree, than you would. As I've
said from the start, I'll remove it if that's what people want, but I
This entire email thread makes me sad.
I'm sad because we did this to ourselves (our porting systems/policies
are lacking), we did this very abruptly (the last port we kicked out
of webkit.org took a year?), and we don't have any clear policy for
this sort of thing (adding/removing ports in
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