Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-13 Thread Peter Beverloo
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 22:28, David Hyatt wrote: > On Jul 12, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> >> The reason for these is historical. Originally, we didn't use a separate >> vendor prefix for WebKit, just -khtml. Later we changed to -apple. > > That's not quite right.  Originally

[webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Peter Beverloo
Good day, While going through WebCore for some CSS research I'm currently doing, I came across a piece of code[1] which translates all "-khtml-" and "-apple-" vendor-prefixes to "-webkit-". This effectively means "-apple-transform" and "-khtml-transform" can both be used instead of "-webkit-transf

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread David Hyatt
On Jul 12, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > The reason for these is historical. Originally, we didn't use a separate > vendor prefix for WebKit, just -khtml. Later we changed to -apple. That's not quite right. Originally we just had -khtml- for CSS extensions, and then we used

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jul 12, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Peter Beverloo wrote: > Right now WebKit has by far the most prefixed elements[1], a > significant part of which have not been standardized/drafted yet. > Keeping the translation for all properties active practically triples > the amount of supported vendor-specific

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Peter Beverloo
Excuse me, I forgot to note the new bug + patch in my previous mail, although it was listed in the references. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42093 Regards, Peter Beverloo http://peter.sh/ On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 17:26, Eric Seidel wrote: > Please post a patch: > http://webkit.org/codi

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Peter Beverloo
Right now WebKit has by far the most prefixed elements[1], a significant part of which have not been standardized/drafted yet. Keeping the translation for all properties active practically triples the amount of supported vendor-specific CSS extensions, which cannot be desirable. I'm not opposed to

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
The reason for these is historical. Originally, we didn't use a separate vendor prefix for WebKit, just -khtml. Later we changed to -apple. Eventually we realized WebKit would not be an Apple-specific project forever, so we switched to -webkit. The main risk to removing the old prefixes is that

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Peter Beverloo wrote: > I decided to take this issue to the mailing lists before posting a > patch for such reasons. The Apple documentation which is referred > to[1] in that bug has been updated to use WebKit's own vendor prefix, > so I suspect the impact of remo

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Peter Beverloo
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 18:00, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > While converting all -khtml- properties to -webkit- may not be appropriate > because there could be incompatible implementation of certain property, there > are properties starting with -khtml- that are supposed to be supported by > WebKit.

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
While converting all -khtml- properties to -webkit- may not be appropriate because there could be incompatible implementation of certain property, there are properties starting with -khtml- that are supposed to be supported by WebKit. See bugs such as https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11825.

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Seidel
Please post a patch: http://webkit.org/coding/contributing.html On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Eric Seidel wrote: > Sounds like an easy patch to post.  I'm in favor of removing this > support.  Reducing the number of non-standard CSS properties we > support seems like a good thing. > > -eric >

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Seidel
Sounds like an easy patch to post. I'm in favor of removing this support. Reducing the number of non-standard CSS properties we support seems like a good thing. -eric On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Peter Beverloo wrote: > Good day, > > While going through WebCore for some CSS research I'm cu

[webkit-dev] Removing support for the -khtml- (and -apple-?) vendor prefixes

2010-07-12 Thread Peter Beverloo
Good day, While going through WebCore for some CSS research I'm currently doing, I came across a piece of code[1] which translates all "-khtml-" and "-apple-" vendor-prefixes to "-webkit-". This effectively means "-apple-transform" and "-khtml-transform" can both be used instead of "-webkit-transf