Re: [webkit-dev] Defaulting --exit-after-n-failures to 0

2012-06-08 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:

 We'll still default --exit-after-n-crashes-or-timeouts to 20. That seems
 more useful to me since you'd rarely hit this case locally and want to
 continue running tests.


We should also increase this number. Non-chromium bots hit this limit all
the time, and it's one of most frequent complaints about
new-run-webkit-tests.

- Ryosuke
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Re: [webkit-dev] Defaulting --exit-after-n-failures to 0

2012-06-08 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:

 We'll still default --exit-after-n-crashes-or-timeouts to 20. That seems
 more useful to me since you'd rarely hit this case locally and want to
 continue running tests.


 We should also increase this number. Non-chromium bots hit this limit all
 the time, and it's one of most frequent complaints about
 new-run-webkit-tests.


I have no objection to upping this number. We picked 20 fairly arbitrarily.
I think we picked it to match the number that the build.webkit.org bots
were using at the time. That said, every non-chromium bot is passing in 20
via the commandline as best I can tell, so changing the default won't
change anything there. Is it really true that non-chromium bots are hitting
this frequently?

Ojan
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Re: [webkit-dev] Defaulting --exit-after-n-failures to 0

2012-06-08 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:

 We'll still default --exit-after-n-crashes-or-timeouts to 20. That seems
 more useful to me since you'd rarely hit this case locally and want to
 continue running tests.


 We should also increase this number. Non-chromium bots hit this limit all
 the time, and it's one of most frequent complaints about
 new-run-webkit-tests.


 I have no objection to upping this number. We picked 20 fairly
 arbitrarily. I think we picked it to match the number that the
 build.webkit.org bots were using at the time. That said, every
 non-chromium bot is passing in 20 via the commandline as best I can tell,
 so changing the default won't change anything there. Is it really true that
 non-chromium bots are hitting this frequently?


Yes, particularly in debug builds. Jessie can tell you all the glory story
about how she had to disable lots of tests to make Windows bots work :(

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Re: [webkit-dev] Defaulting --exit-after-n-failures to 0

2012-06-08 Thread Dirk Pranke
I have no objection either to increasing the defaults for either of
these numbers or making it possible to have different defaults per
port.

Do you want to suggest different defaults? Should we use ORWT's
(infinite failures and infinite crashes by default)?

-- Dirk

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:

 We'll still defaultĀ --exit-after-n-crashes-or-timeouts to 20. That seems
 more useful to me since you'd rarely hit this case locally and want to
 continue running tests.


 We should also increase this number. Non-chromium bots hit this limit all
 the time, and it's one of most frequent complaints about
 new-run-webkit-tests.


 I have no objection to upping this number. We picked 20 fairly
 arbitrarily. I think we picked it to match the number that the
 build.webkit.org bots were using at the time. That said, every non-chromium
 bot is passing in 20 via the commandline as best I can tell, so changing the
 default won't change anything there. Is it really true that non-chromium
 bots are hitting this frequently?


 Yes, particularly in debug builds. Jessie can tell you all the glory story
 about how she had to disable lots of tests to make Windows bots work :(

 - Ryosuke

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Re: [webkit-dev] Defaulting --exit-after-n-failures to 0

2012-06-08 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:

 I have no objection either to increasing the defaults for either of
 these numbers or making it possible to have different defaults per
 port.

 Do you want to suggest different defaults? Should we use ORWT's
 (infinite failures and infinite crashes by default)?


Unbounded failures  crashes sound good to me although I can definitely see
a value in passing some fixed value on bots so as to reduce the cycle time
when 10,000+ tests start to crash. Something like 100, 300, or 500 would
probably be acceptable.

- Ryosuke
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Re: [webkit-dev] Defaulting --exit-after-n-failures to 0

2012-06-08 Thread Dirk Pranke
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:

 I have no objection either to increasing the defaults for either of
 these numbers or making it possible to have different defaults per
 port.

 Do you want to suggest different defaults? Should we use ORWT's
 (infinite failures and infinite crashes by default)?


 Unbounded failures  crashes sound good to me although I can definitely see
 a value in passing some fixed value on bots so as to reduce the cycle time
 when 10,000+ tests start to crash. Something like 100, 300, or 500 would
 probably be acceptable.


NRWT defaults to 500 failures, so you're suggesting we just up the
default # of crashes to 500? Anyone have any other numbers jumping out
at them?

-- Dirk
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Re: [webkit-dev] Defaulting --exit-after-n-failures to 0

2012-06-08 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org
 wrote:
 
  I have no objection either to increasing the defaults for either of
  these numbers or making it possible to have different defaults per
  port.
 
  Do you want to suggest different defaults? Should we use ORWT's
  (infinite failures and infinite crashes by default)?
 
 
  Unbounded failures  crashes sound good to me although I can definitely
 see
  a value in passing some fixed value on bots so as to reduce the cycle
 time
  when 10,000+ tests start to crash. Something like 100, 300, or 500 would
  probably be acceptable.
 

 NRWT defaults to 500 failures, so you're suggesting we just up the
 default # of crashes to 500? Anyone have any other numbers jumping out
 at them?


 I'm OK with the ORWT defaults of infinite for both. Then we never have to
 have this discussion again. :) It can be on the buildbot maintainers to
 pass in the right flags. All of the non-chromium ports already do anyways
 as best I can tell.


That's an argument I can buy.

- Ryosuke
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