If it has an nickserv type function, you should be able to register the
name, then log in with it and /ghost to kill the ghost
client
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Tim Roberts wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:47:33 +0800 (WST), Shayne ONeill
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Perhaps. I definately agree on the performance aspect. My personal concern
> >is a stability
Theres always the option, suboptimal as it may be, of doing 'the unix
thang' and spawning out to a charting command line app. Prior to working
out GD (magic stuff!) on php, thats precisely what I'd do with image
uploading. Works the charm.
Also;- http://freshmeat.net/projects/pythongd/
But I do
Perhaps. I definately agree on the performance aspect. My personal concern
is a stability one. Basically I just dont believe the servlet model can
offer the same sort of stability that the one-hit page model can,
principally because on a php page, if the code raises an exception, it'll
flatten the
the class.
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Shayne ONeill hat
Template engine in 6 lines :)
f =open('/templatedir/' + name, 'r')
template = f.read()
f.close()
for k,v replacelist():
template = template.replace(str(k),str(v))
print template
You start with a template file which is plain ol' html with lines like
{name}
you fill a list of replacements l
Uh man, you seem pretty pasionate on this. I'll just lay off it. Sorry
man. Its just an impression and my gut vibe. Not something I care to dig
too deeply in.
> Hi,
>
>
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Shayne ONeill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Verzo
Perhaps the correct description is "DTML" is interpreted by an interpreted
language.
Interpreted^2 even.
No. I can plainly say that personally the mess that is DTML is precidely
why I quit using zope (and havent looked back).
>
> OBJECTION !!!
>
> 1. Your remark "I've grown to hate" surprises m
wingware :)
*grin* I like it :) Catchy even :)
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Douglas Soares de Andrade wrote:
> HI !
Probably whats needed to get this sucker beautiful is for folks to go thu
the system and build some simple regression tests. I think (from memory)
theres a bunch of tests in there.
Then if someone who knows about 'these things' feels up for it, they can
on a regular basis grab the CVS, and build
I B M
Money
gogogo
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Try slashing and unslashing. Theres PHP functions for this, but I really
dont know for py
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Matt Feifarek wrote:
> Marc Saric wrote:
>
> > Although this is only for Intranet-use, I would like to add a Validator,
> > which prevents SQL-injection on Db-queries.
> >
> > Has anyon
Any one who makes a sane interface for PAM that also presents the same
interface in NT deserves not just a medal, but a nobel peace prize (Im
sure someone can think of why perhaps).
Its a definate absence.
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Could you break your task into little chunks and run it as a state machine
with a permanant process that runs state 'chunks' and records progress?
Its an odd way to do it, but it lets you run it all in a single thread.
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I know how hard it is for you to
Shouldnt be too hard. With databases, just keep an eye on threading
issues. It'll get ya everytime (Ie if one process is using a cursor and
another one snatches it, well... *bang*.) MySQL is not particularly thread
safe (and even cursors marked thread safe are still not really thread
safe, because
What you are witnessing of course is the cause behind many of the more
grievious hacks out there, where the server sets mime type as gif and
sends an exe. On older ie browsers it'll run the exe without asking for
permission. And when you do this in an html email you have your basic
virus.
--
We really need a debian and redhat package that can just magic it for
people.
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On Fri, 7 May 2004, deelan wrote:
> jose wrote:
>
> (...)
> > Sorry for not being totally sym
amily."
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On Wed, 5 May 2004, John Goodyear wrote:
> In most cases the machine spec has never been below P3-800 and the
> machine load has been very low. Would it be worth me running with the
> CVS version of WebWare over the 0.81 release?
>
> Shayne ONeill
On a low end machine, I had a lot of timeouts when ever the system needed
to recompile a servlet... (latest cvs). Not sure the answer here other
than I'd keep trying and eventually it'd come good. Timeouts + computers =
magical behavior.
How much headroom has the process got? It it a fairly loade
Ooh. I might just add;-
if myaddr == 'a2.perthimc.asn.au':
blogmode=0
self.cacheid='index' #Dont care
else:
blogmode=1
urluser = string.split(myaddr,'.')[0]
self.cacheid=urluser+'blog'
I'm having certain problems gettign MySQL connections stable over larger
usage
(The lost mysql connection problem)
Can someone write a little tutorial maybe on doing sql safely. I consider
myself reasonably competant with software, and its even got me miffed.
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. Partly cos I dont have ie to play with! But
it makes things sure nice.
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Ian Bicking wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Shayne ONeill wro
Actually the webware chapter in dietel was probably the only part of the
book that really failed imho. Only because it missed the good stuff and
concentrated on the psp. That said, theres probably rhyme and reason there
in that it was intending to show that such a beast does exist, although
I'm in
ith a bunch of work?
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Shayne ONeill wrote:
>
> Again. Its one of those things I could probably do well. I guess the
> problem for me p
that Webware can do well that PHP can't. (I like
> to position it as the elegance of J2EE w/ the development speed of PHP)
>
> I think that a webware book should focus on tasks done well in Python
> and webware. (Otherwise it seen as a less capable Java server or
> overly c
Would perhaps a state flag be apropriate that tells the object *NOT* to
talk to the html output system?
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Ian Bicking wrote:
> I haven't been using acti
"
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, deelan wrote:
> Shayne ONeill wrote:
>
> > A simple problem that alot fo the examples use is that theres too much at
> > once going on.
> >
> > none really have the simple "just decend from page and self.writeln()
&
boa-constructor (the vb/delphi like python enviro) generates uml. It'd be
nice to develop a plug in for webware for it. looks like a complex subject
tho.
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On Thu, 15 Apr 200
I'll upload the whole activismo2 cvs system at somepoint (Ian, mind if I
keep it there for sync? Im personally no fan of sourceforge). Its a bit
messy, but its got lots of nice bits to play with , rip out and redeploy.
jit cacheing , epoz integration, reaaal damn simpleminded templates etc
etc.
A
A simple problem that alot fo the examples use is that theres too much at
once going on.
none really have the simple "just decend from page and self.writeln()
your output. self.request() has the form type enviro. Took me a while to
figure it out.
But maybe a simple "heres how to do hello world"
I knew
the deep magic behind the bug I'd of sent a patch in already!
Intermitency. Eek.
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Jason Hildebrand wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-04-1
I get this alot also. Webware occasionally not being able to see inside
modules. then after touching the file (Often just adding a space to an
empty line) or something it can see in it again.
Tis verry puzzling.
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I know how hard it is for you to put fo
I've had a couple of ideas on some of this (kinda off AND on topic)
I'd really like to see a 'webware parts' type setup ,perhaps as a plugin,
where theres a central repository of pre written objects that page
designer could drop into his/her own design to achieve various
functionalities that'd ot
Maybe a dynamic 'comminity projects' ticker. Like somewhere where new
webware projects are mooted and appear. This'd give the impression of a
dynamic and used software community.
I also like the search facilities on the php page. Right up front and in
yer face.
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If you rely on this however, you can still be assured your server will
still be broken!
Seriously. Its *not* the answer. If your using javascript to avoid
doubleclicks, because doubleclicks crash the server, then you should be
prepared to accept that the server will still crash on daily basis,
be
Ah! No man!
If thats the answer , then the answer is wrong!
Security observation. "Bug" is another name for "Vunerability".
Example. If that mysql insert is not particularly atomic, and remember we
are probably talking mysql without transactions, a half done insert set
might whack the db. DoS w
This lost mysql connection is a similar phenomenon to one I have observed
where I have a couple of near simultaneous page hits.
I *think* its due to a cursor being declared globally and not being
threadsafe.
Perhaps a lock on the cursor might help? I'd like to know a good solution
to this myself
It just struck me that whereas the php people fall over themselves to
build a million and one "yet another groupware package" thingees, the
webware folks fall over each other to make wiki's.
This tells me a lot of positive things about the psychology round here!
Nice :)
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I'd certainly take no offence if a reST one is used :) That little wiki I
whacked together is admitedly a little messy and probably useless without
the auth the rest of my software provides. :) Whats the PyDiddy port like?
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Its a shame if hosts dont like it. On the perth indymedia server, we had
zope running, and it absolutely beat the hell out of the little guy (p255
with 96meg.) The server actually hosts about 10-15 sites. Anyway, we are
phasing out zope, and porting apps to webware, and even with ten threads
runni
Wow. That looks totally neat. How well does it cope with inner joins and
the like?
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, Ian Bicking wrote:
> For comparison, here's some of the same thing
Marvelous. Thankyou :)
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Shayne ONeill hat gesagt: // Shayne ONeill wrote:
>
> > Does anyone
t executes wiki.py and passess the
frontpage part of the url to wiki.py?
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Shayne ONeill hat gesagt: // Sh
Attached is the source code for wiki so far.
Please note some of the code there is related to another project I'm
working on.
You'll need to change the dbconnect.py file to reflect where in mysql the
pages live.
You'll also need to change render.py to reflect where the templates live.
I *think
ation.
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Ian Bicking wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2004, at 8:13 PM, Shayne ONeill wrote:
> > I'm gunna throw together a quick wiki servlet (I n
ush
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Ian Bicking wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2004, at 8:13 PM, Shayne ONeill wrote:
> > I'm gunna throw together a quick wiki servlet (I need it infact for
> > another project anyway). I'll report back later today with a prototype.
>
> You should look at thi
I'm gunna throw together a quick wiki servlet (I need it infact for
another project anyway). I'll report back later today with a prototype.
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Jason Hildeb
Hmm. A book.
I'm wondering if I should/could put my hands up on that one.
Being that I'm a journo by trade, I'm thinking I might be able to pull it
off. Now that said, I'd need some serious ears when I had a question to
bounce off. That said, I'm a reasonable enough programmer, or I'd like to
th
MAy I humbly suggest sticking with webware.
The names out there. The branding sticks. Some projects disapear after the
established brand name changes. Ever remember what happened to
Killustrator?
Also if one MUST change it, theres something microsoft worked out:: The
name should indicate what it
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Nick Murtagh wrote:
> Shayne ONeill wrote:
> > Thanks a million nick. I would apreciate an example
>
> This is a modified version of code I use...
>
> def bUploadFile(self, s
Perhaps your timing out the server.
Try setting time out settings in apache and wherever it is in webware (hey
I'm new to this also;)
Perhaps you can also try reading the damn thing in one big chunk and
spitting it out in one big chunk.
I also am inclined t osuggets wrapping em in try: finally:
George W. Bush
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004, Shayne ONeill wrote:
>
> Thanks a million nick. I would apreciate an example
>
> (Or if I work it out I'll post one).
>
> Should it perhaps be put up on the wiki?
>
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4, Nick Murtagh wrote:
> Shayne ONeill wrote:
> > I get the whole filerarara:FieldStorage('userfile','filename','assorted
> > cruft') returned.
> >
> > I just dont know how to get to whats inside those wee lil' brackets.
>
> The
I hope I got the right list for this (please point it out if I dont)
I've just ported a cms system (or rather am half way thru it) from php to
spyce , a python server page type system. After finding spyce to be a
little too slow and flakey, I've taken the plunge and moved the code
across to webwa
Hey all. Shayne Here. Just started wist webware. Theres a learning curve,
but I'm getting it
Perhaps folk should talk with the boa-constructor people about putting
stuff in that framework for testing, modeling et al. Its a really nice rad
system, and the zope interaction is great. Would be ni
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