Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Eduard Pascual
I don't really like to be harsh, but I have some criticism to this, and it's going to be quite hard. However, my goal by pointing out what I consider so big mistakes is to help HTML5 becoming as good as it could be. First issue: it solves a (major) subset of what RDFa would solve. However, it has

Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Philip Taylor
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Eduard Pascual herenva...@gmail.com wrote: [...] (at least for now: many RDFa-aware agents vs. zero HTML5's microdata -aware agents) HTML5 microdata parsers seem pretty trivial to write - http://philip.html5.org/demos/microdata/demo.html is only about two

Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Shelley Powers
Philip Taylor wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Eduard Pascual herenva...@gmail.com wrote: [...] (at least for now: many RDFa-aware agents vs. zero HTML5's microdata -aware agents) HTML5 microdata parsers seem pretty trivial to write -

Re: [whatwg] Custom microdata handling added to HTML5 spec

2009-05-12 Thread Julian Reschke
Manu Sporny wrote: ... We are currently working[1] on features to dynamically extending the base set of reserved words and the set of pre-defined prefixes through a mechanism called RDFa Profiles[2]. It is proposed that this mechanism would allow authors to do this in their documents: div

Re: [whatwg] video/audio feedback

2009-05-12 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote: At 14:09  +1000 9/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:  Of course none of the discussion will inherently disallow seeking - scripts will always be able to do the seeking. But the user may not find it easy to do seeking to a

Re: [whatwg] Spec should require UAs to have control to mute/ pause audio/ video

2009-05-12 Thread Erik Vorhes
On Sat, May 9, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: The issue is that not all browsers have significant configs (I'm thinking of mobile browsers here), and I don't believe their inability to provide such a choice to the user should make them nonconforming. If a UA is incapable of audio

[whatwg] Google announces Microformats/RDFa support

2009-05-12 Thread Manu Sporny
Google announces Microformats/RDFa support http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa/2009May/0011.html -- manu -- Manu Sporny President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. blog: A Collaborative Distribution Model for Music http://blog.digitalbazaar.com/2009/04/04/collaborative-music-model/

Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Peter Mika wrote: Just a quick comment on: it uses prefixes, which most authors simply do not understand, and which many implementors end up getting wrong (e.g. SearchMonkey hard-coded certain prefixes in its first implementation, Google's handling of RDF

Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Shelley Powers
Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 12 May 2009, Peter Mika wrote: Just a quick comment on: it uses prefixes, which most authors simply do not understand, and which many implementors end up getting wrong (e.g. SearchMonkey hard-coded certain prefixes in its first implementation, Google's

Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Shelley Powers shell...@burningbird.net wrote: I would say if your fellow Google developers could understand how this all works, there is hope for others. if http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009May/0064.html Shelley - Sam Ruby

Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Shelley Powers
Sam Ruby wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Shelley Powers shell...@burningbird.net wrote: I would say if your fellow Google developers could understand how this all works, there is hope for others. if http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009May/0064.html

Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Philip Taylor
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Shelley Powers shell...@burningbird.net wrote: I would say if your fellow Google developers could understand how this all works, there is hope for others. if

Re: [whatwg] video/audio feedback

2009-05-12 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote: At 14:09  +1000 9/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:  Of course none of the discussion will inherently disallow seeking - scripts will always be able to do

Re: [whatwg] Annotating structured data that HTML has no semantics for

2009-05-12 Thread Leif Halvard Silli
Tab Atkins Jr. on Tue, 12 May 2009 12:30:27 -0500: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Eduard Pascual: [...] It would be preferable to be able to state something like each (row) tr in the table describes an iguana: the imgs are each iguana's picture, the contents of the a's are the names,

Re: [whatwg] Spec should require UAs to have control to mute/ pause audio/ video

2009-05-12 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Erik Vorhes e...@textivism.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: The issue is that not all browsers have significant configs (I'm thinking of mobile browsers here), and I don't believe their inability to provide such a choice to the

Re: [whatwg] video/audio feedback

2009-05-12 Thread David Singer
At 12:09 +1000 13/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote: At 14:09 +1000 9/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: Of course none of the discussion will inherently