> enabled track.
What if you can't play the most recently requested track, e.g. because it
is in a format that your hardware can't handle? (e.g. too great a bitrate
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Tobie Langel wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Tobie Langel wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > > Can't you do window.is
tegrating with the "Compositing and Blending" spec is on my TODO
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Dec/0229.html
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> way to declare opaqueness why not follow the existing method and add
> context creation parameters to 2d canvas to solve this issue rather than
> make a new and conflicting &#
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Tobie Langel wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > Can't you do window.isSameOrigin by just trying to access
> > window.location.href and seeing if you get an exception?
>
> Unfortunately not, because of the previ
Over the years I've collected a number of threads on this list that were
requesting features (as opposed to reporting bugs), and which lacked
immediate interest from more than one browser vendor.
Unfortunately, while I've been tracking them, they don't have much
visibility and so I don't alway
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Cameron McCormack wrote:
> On 30/01/13 6:28 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > That's weird. heycam, can you elaborate on this? The addHitRegion()
> > case in particular never makes sense to be called without a dictionary
> > containing at least one memb
its lang attribute for the same Unicode
> codepoint.
Sure, but internal UA uses aren't use cases for the Web.
The use cases Peter gave over the weekend are valid, though.
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the user could see, if the script cannot communicate with a script that
does have access to the DOM?
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Tobie Langel wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, Adam Barth wrote:
> >>
> >> For nested browsing contexts, expose the origin of the parent
> >> browsing context via location.par
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> On 7/15/13 4:44 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >
> > Can't they just resize the window or scroll it?
>
> It depends. It's common to open these windows non-scrollable (which UAs
> usually obey) and unresizable (which
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> On 12/18/12 3:53 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > Per the spec, calls that would create a new browsing context are
> > blocked unless called from the handler of a trusted 'click' event.
>
> That's not web-compatible..
.
What's the use case for having this in HTML?
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re costly to create game assets and user experience for both
> orientations.
Sure, some orientations might be better -- just like the HTML spec is more
readable on a taller large screen than on a landscape phone screen -- but
if the user wants to play the other way, it seems wrong to
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, TAMURA, Kent wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, TAMURA, Kent wrote:
> > >
> > > * For date, datetime, datetime-local, month, time, week, the
> > > attribute returns a string in a field. If
tivation
> [3]
> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/elements.html#run-synthetic-click-activation-steps
The notes are non-normative, but I've tried to clarify what it means. Let
me know if it's still confusing.
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of a URL"? I'm guessing Adam would be interested in revving the Origin
spec to be more accurate if there's a problem with it; that would be my
preference if at all possible.
See also Adam's response to the message you cite above:
http://www.ietf.org/m
c is pretty explicit about it not being:
# When the button binding applies to a button element, the element is
# expected to render as an 'inline-block' box rendered as a button whose
# contents are the contents of the element.
-- http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/curr
things like this. There's no reason to limit yourself to the API
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landscape or portrait. Why wouldn't I be allowed to do the same on any
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x27;t see anything in the spec that allows "bbb" to be shown.
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Adam Barth wrote:
>
> I guess it depends on what you mean by "rely". We just treat the
> about:srcdoc URL as something that, when fetched, retrieves the value
> currently s
e
> the width & height) will fire "load" but not "error".
Right.
> I agree with this, as it means the browser can defer decoding to render
> time, but do we need a way in JS to confirm an image is decodable?
What's the use case? (Surely the server should check this on the server.)
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than document.referrer:
http://whatwg.org/html/#set-the-document's-address
If other browsers don't match this, file bugs on them. :-)
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tly prompts the user what to do with the phone number provided)
>
> They seem to be in line with those currently in the list. Should they be
> added to the spec?
Added.
> BTW, the spec's list is not in alphabetical order.
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> > On 3/5/13 3:30 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >> I'd be fine with having a Document descendant that is used for
> >> Documents that have global scopes / browsing con
> * Color
>
> In all these cases, a canonical color allows external parsers to provide
> further branding or additional flourish in their representation of apps
> and pages. Microsoft's "msapplication-TileColor" and
> "msapplication-navbutton-color" eleme
e-mail
feedback; sending both just ends up making one of them get a response like
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"portrait"(or "landscape") into allowed orientations,
> or;
>
> 2. Filter out disallowed orientations from orientation sequence and
> lock the screen with that list.
I believe feedback on this specification is intended to be sent to
public-weba...@w3.org.
HTH,
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to Element, getting rid of the animated class stuff from SVG), before we
start making even more changes on this front. That seems reasonable.
Anyway, whenever this gets added to Element, I'll remove it from
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there to be available resources. Or, even better, to run workers in a
thread pool, and when you have more workers than threads, time share the
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inside the element and make it possible for the element
> to increase or decrease its width and height in both directions, exactly
> like Flash can do it.
This seems like a presentational/styling request. I recommend approaching
the CSS working group.
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> On 12/19/12 12:55 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> > > On 12/19/12 12:37 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > > Yes, just not an active one.
> > >
> > > OK. I don't
implies it's been sandboxed with
> 'allow-same-origin' of course).
>
> From discussions with Bobby, I think we prefer the second option. The
> restriction on navigating window.top would only be applied in the cross
> domain case.
I don
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Adam Barth wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Justin Novosad wrote:
> >> For many types of apps, DOM-based rendering is uncompetitively slow
> >> [so we should make text rendering in canvas more
after all.)
> I suspect that in the future some options will be desired even for the
> 2D canvas use case, and having the dictionary already specified will
> make that easier. There is no need to invent a new primitive and means
> of loading it.
If options make sense for 2D canvas, then
scrolling.)
It seems like the right solution is to create a primitive for WebGL that
represents images that are going to be used in WebGL calls. Such a
primitive could use the same sources for images as ImageBitmap, but would
be specifically for use with WebGL, in the same way that ImageBitmap is
use
; i.data[0] = 255;
> ctx.putImageData(i, 0, 0);
> i2 = ctx.getImageData(0, 0, 1, 1);
> console.log(i2.data[0]) // prints 0 on both FF and Chrome
This is using ImageData, not ImageBitmap. Are we talking about the same
thing here? I'm confused.
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would first wait for that to finish.
(We could make markNeeded() return a promise, too.)
Is there a need for delaying the download of a script as well? (If so, we
could change whenneeded="" to have values, like whenneeded="execute" vs
whenneeded="
ur even more context sensitive doesn't seem
> like a good thing.
I think we're _so_ far beyond this ideal world that I'm not sure it's
worth even looking for it, to be honest. :-)
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ust means that window.CanvasDrawingStyle is
> undefined, basically. It doesn't affect anything else.
>
> addText, as an example, takes any object that implements the
> CanvasDrawingStyle interface. That would include any DrawingStyle
> object and any CanvasRenderingContext2D
op the hack from innerHTML.
> Looking back a couple of years, this section of the spec seems to be
> drifting in a random walk away from reality. We can study this further
> and try suggesting some text based on what we have implemented so far.
Well, when it started it wasn'
not really sure what would be helpful. There's some introductory text
before the insertion modes. I would be happy to add more -- have you had
any luck understanding it better? Do you know what would have been most
helpful to get you off the ground faster?
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just happen to deal with them in batches, and for the first half of this
year I've been focusing on bugs. Filing both just means one of the two is
going to get a confused "I thought we fixed this" response, or something
e is an element in the MathML namespace, adjust
> > MathML attributes for the token.
>
> Since the current node in the fragment parsing case is still ,
> this will not have the desired effect.
>
> Should this section be changed to refer to the adjus
tion.createHTMLDocument().
HTH,
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t the top of the
> stack, the "element in scope" algorithm will always find it, and as a
> result, the first part of the condition will always fail.
I ended up removing this from the spec for other reasons, so this should
be resolved now.
nce
> around with the start tag token making absolutely no progress
> whatsoever.
This was an error that resulted when I renamed (which was
allowed in ) to (which is not). I apparently did a poor
job of correcting the parsing. Fixed (it's now only mentioned "
han just throw the ISO spec under the bus, but it's really up to you
(Henri, and whoever else is implementing a validator).
Given the above context, do you still think we should make ISO-8859-1
unconditionally valid?
If it is, I'll change the various places in the spec tha
character reference in a double quoted attribute value",
> or character references would have to be looked for in a second pass (so
> you would first find the closing `"` and then re-parse the value to look
> for character references since you skipped that in the first pass).
I&#x
his true or not ?
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
>
> No. Grepping for "PLAINTEXT" should make this clear.
There's a number of places in the tree construction stage that change the
tokenizer state, in particular, the parsing for these elements: title,
noscript
x27;t make a lot of intuitive sense. Unfortunately, the limits are
> necessary so that implementations don't end up having to do quadratic
> work. If this behavior is causing you trouble, you might want to run
> your content through some sort of pre-processor that re-writes these
should have been "while the
> current node is neither a tr element in the HTML namespace nor an html
> element in the HTML namespace".
>
> To avoid confusion, it would be helpful, in each case, to state whether,
> say, "a table element" refers to "a table element
c to be explicit about this. Let me know if it's still
ambiguous.
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Martin Janecke wrote:
> Am 17.06.2013 um 22:58 schrieb Ian Hickson:
> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Martin Janecke wrote:
> >> Am 17.06.2013 um 11:35 schrieb Steve Faulkner:
> >>>
> >>> the restriction on figure/figcaption is only in the w
ted it before, the argument that was made was that a lot of
sites do split the fields up in the US, and the strong recommendation
that people use the single fields was the compromise we reached. I've left
the fields in for now.
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> Proposal: Consider adding additional detail sections to reduce the US bias.
I'd much rather just drop the detailed sections entirely. People really
shouldn't be using them, in any region.
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examples exactly what the
optimal markup should be, though.
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> > Am 07.06.2013 um 23:13 schrieb Ian Hickson:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > If you have a caption from the user (as opposed to replacement
ed are the
things that were needed for accessibility (hit regions) and the things
that are the basis for some of the most-requested features (Paths).
I think before we add more features, it's important that we figure out
which browsers want to implement which features, and that we start
ave a
compelling reason. I don't see one for this proposed change.
> Doing this will make WebVTT and the TextTrack API extensible for new cue
> formats, such as cues in SSML format, or ThumbnailCues, or MidrollAdCues
> or whatnot else we may see necessary in the future.
It's already plenty extensible enough.
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y. It makes loading fonts from other origins a pain.)
On Mon, 6 May 2013, Rik Cabanier wrote:
>
> I logged https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21943
In the future, please note that there's no need to file a bug for topics
raised on the WHATWG list -- just one or the other is fine.
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ctly this way!
> Authors of generators always have the option of generating things like
> alt="(an image)", which can hardly be worse than lack of alt attribute.
It's worse because it prevents authors from being able to find images that
are lacking
s, map app
> developers and the users so everyone adopt the idea of having the geo
> URI scheme adopted as an standard, I'm quite sure this idea can help a
> lot of users and web developers to give a better user experience and it
> is more import
t;
> As I see it @inputmode isn't here to be a feature like this but maybe
> Hixie had a different vision when he wrote the specs for it.
inputmode="" is mainly intended to control what keyboard to use on mobile
devices.
> Maybe if it was named
t we would like to go with mode and script
> separately.
If everyone wants them split, and that's what gets implemented, then
that's what should be specced, too.
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the other. That actually means the opposite kind of change as is being
proposed above: for example, it would mean changing the "table" end tag
steps from what they say now (popping an HTML element), to popping
any "table" element regardless of namespace. This would make the algorithm
more consistent, and remove the bugs mentioned above.
Is this what people want to do? It's not what you (Adam) implemented, as I
understand it.
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It's saying that the subsequent steps apply if the "current node" is an
element whose namespace (as given e.g. by the element's Element object's
namespaceURI IDL attribute) is the string "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";.
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having an iframe.
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>
> Any insight welcomed.
I don't think there's any pending feedback on the API in the spec, so
there's no current plans to change it.
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oking of a path. It was easily implemented
> on top of Direct2D, Cairo, Skia, and CoreGraphics and shouldn't be
> difficult for other systems.
>
> We implemented this to help support functionality needed for shumway
> (flash on html)
Thanks for the heads-up. This is now in
o set up a situation where a site can trigger a
download of a sensitive file (e.g. bank account details) and then trick
the user into uploading it by asking the user to "Select the file you want
to protect from uploading" or "For debugging purposes, select the newest
ers ended up implementing this as an enum, this will work:
var ruleArgSupported = false;
c.fill({ toString: function() { ruleArgSupported = true; return 'evenodd'; }
});
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Simon Sarris wrote:
>
> The current *fillRule *rules in the specification seem i
an iframe (perhaps
> just seamless ones).
Yes, it's intentionally that way (they don't escape) for non-seamless,
cross-origin iframes, since that would be a security risk.
It's true that for seamless iframes we could change that, but the usual
use case for seamless iframe
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> On 4/8/13 1:20 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > If a browser can cache the data for a frame based on which frame it is
> > rather than just its URL
>
> In Gecko's case, say, it's cached based on URL and a sequence number (to
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> On 4/7/13 9:52 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > The way is defined, the document URI does not in any
> > > way encode the document contents.
> >
> > This is the same as HTTP URLs where the server returns different
>
the original source can't be obtained
(e.g. a POST result); for cases where the original data can still be
obtained (as is the case for anything where "view source" works), the page
can maybe be reconstructed from source.
In any case, the URL isn't
ich notifications with exposed DOMs until workers
have DOMs. Not sure if that's on the cards, but notification systems on
other platforms are getting _quite_ rich indeed.
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> > straightforward to just use horizontal and let the author opt-in to
> > vertical with the attribute.
>
> No, auto is not useful in practice. We had this in jQuery UI and removed
> it four years ago because it was a bad idea.
Why is it a bad idea?
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tall, and horizontal if you're wide? I don't understand why anyone would
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If you're making proprietary pseudo-elements for parts of the slider while
waiting for Web Components to be ready t
apparently forgot to fill that in. Sorry about that. Try now.
I'll leave your e-mail in my pile to make sure I deal with the remaining
issues you mentioned, though.
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you point out on IRC, really they're more a second kind of inline in a
magic line box. I've reverted the change.
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Stephen White wrote:
>
> As an example, the "darker" compositing mode was removed from the spec
> due to hardware-accelerated performance concerns, IIRC.
'darker' was removed because it wasn't defined anywhere so couldn't be
impl
m working on bugs primarily. I'll get there eventually. Sorry for
the delay, I have a lot of backlog and a lot of it is really subtle
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On Wed, 6 Mar 2013, Simon Pieters wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:40:56 +0100, Henri Sivonen wrote:
>
> > Would it be terrible to make attempts to mutate the 'is' attribute
> > throw thereby teaching authors who actually try to mutate it that it's
> > not mutable?
>
> We already have several a
t, because I don't want to stick a named getter
> on every document.
>
> What happens with individual methods is a separate story.
I'd be fine with having a Document descendant that is used for Documents
that have global scopes / browsing contexts / the works, and one tha
Should
> we rename it then (harhar)?
It's used by various things, seach for "is the networking task source" in
the HTML spec. e.g. "update the session history with the new page" uses
it. Basically, anything that needs to be ordered relative to network
a
same-origin, the content ends up in a unique
origin, not its "real" origin.
> As a more general question: does iframe@sandbox="allow-same-origin" make a
> page and a cross-origin iframe further connected than they are currently
> without the keyword?
The only differen
On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, Ryosuke Niwa wrote:
>
> Why is name not an input type?
There's a section that discusses it a bit:
http://whatwg.org/html#the-difference-between-the-field-type,-the-autofill-field-name,-and-the-input-modality
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, Jonas Sicking wrote:
> >> We could possibly still use the the FontLoader interface if we do the
> >> following: * FontLoader need
that this is how FontLoader would work for workers. (We
can't rely on what fonts are in the Document since that's shared state,
and workers try to avoid shared state as a design principle.)
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t; browser differences matter very much.
Agreed.
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t this
role even exists.
But that's a discussion for the ARIA list; this list is the wrong place
to discuss ARIA.
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ou can use one in the other or vice
versa, or have them separate, or just one, or have neither.
> The spec doesn't look like it has clearly defined the relationship
> between and .
There is no relationship.
One indicates a section of a page that consists of content that is
tangentially related to the content around the aside element, and which
could be considered separate from that content, e.g. a sidebar. The other
is just a container for the dominant contents of an element.
HTH,
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is.
The spec goes into some detail about this, including with examples, here:
http://whatwg.org/html#the-main-part-of-the-content
http://whatwg.org/html#the-main-element
http://whatwg.org/html#usage-summary-0
http://whatwg.org/html#sample-outlines
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Ian Hickson wrote:
>
> Mounir and I discussed this on IRC, but we didn't have enough data to
> come to a conclusion.
>
> [...]
>
> Does anyone have any examples of UIs that give "page up" and "page down"
> controls to c
lowed value if
> we do stepUp(1000) instead of doing nothing.
If we believe my skeuomorphic argument, then in this latter example, you
would expect the button to change the value to -10.
Does anyone have any examples of UIs that give "page up" and "page down"
controls to change values that can also be set to out-of-range values so
we can study how existing UIs handle this?
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one member. Do we have to allow it?
(The webidl checker doesn't seem to catch this particular bug, by the way.)
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