Re: [whatwg] Microdata feedback

2011-07-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:19:02 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Step 11 is If current has an itemprop attribute specified, add it to results. but should be If current has one or more property names, add it to results. Property names

Re: [whatwg] Microdata feedback

2011-07-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
/microdatajs/commit/217cc34e7e679e2e4ea3e670a0dcdd155a7b9800 for verification, it passes the unit tests with said modification.) On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Note also that other algorithms defined in terms of items and their properties need to handle loopiness in some way. That's

Re: [whatwg] Microdata feedback

2011-07-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:31:49 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:33:14 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Tomasz Jamroszczak wrote: I've been looking into Microdata specification and it struck

Re: [whatwg] multiple itemtypes in microdata?

2011-06-29 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:53:02 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:53:53 +0200, John Giannandrea jgi...@google.com wrote: In the user feedback from the schema.org proposal, which uses microdata as its syntax, we have

Re: [whatwg] Recursion and loops of Microdata items

2011-06-29 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
skip loopy items wherever they occur? Simply failing is also an acceptable solution, IMO. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] multiple itemtypes in microdata?

2011-06-28 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
, just like itemRef and itemProp. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

[whatwg] Microdata property sharing with itemref

2011-06-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
time ago was to only let each property belong to one item, letting items steal each others properties by use of itemref. Even though it would solve this particular problem, it is quite weird and was rightfully rejected.) -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Recursion and loops of Microdata items

2011-06-10 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:01:24 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 9 Jun 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: As for the spec, I don't think it can or needs to define the algorithm on a form suitable form implementation. Something along these lines would be much clearer for reference

Re: [whatwg] Recursion and loops of Microdata items

2011-06-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
/Cheriyan–Mehlhorn/Gabow_algorithm [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strongly_connected_component -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Video feedback

2011-06-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 02:46:15 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 03:39:58 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] WebVTT feedback (was Re: Video feedback)

2011-06-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 02:54:45 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Philip, all, On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:05:55 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2011, Philip

Re: [whatwg] Video feedback

2011-06-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:35:24 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 02:46:15 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: That is all correct. However, because

Re: [whatwg] Video feedback

2011-06-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:38:18 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:35:24 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Philip

Re: [whatwg] Video feedback

2011-06-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
is needed. Am I missing something? -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] WebVTT feedback (was Re: Video feedback)

2011-06-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
about audio descriptions as rendered from cue text descriptions. When would one want these descriptions to be multi-language? -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Video feedback

2011-06-03 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
perhaps being an exception. On Mon, 3 Jan 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: * The bad cue handling is stricter than it should be. After collecting an id, the next line must be a timestamp line. Otherwise, we skip everything until a blank line, so in the following the parser would jump

Re: [whatwg] Full Screen API Feedback

2011-05-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 19 May 2011 19:52:20 +0200, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Are there security issues with this setup? * fullscreen can only be requested by direct user interaction * fullscreen is entered

Re: [whatwg] Full Screen API Feedback

2011-05-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 19 May 2011 12:22:44 +0200, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: Regarding user prompts, I am tentatively in favor of the approach that Jer appears to be arguing for, which is to never prompt

Re: [whatwg] video ... script race condition

2011-05-17 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
this as a bug? I already did: https://github.com/remy/html5demos/issues/12 Or do you mean a spec bug? -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] video ... script race condition

2011-05-17 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:47:02 +0200, Remy Sharp r...@leftlogic.com wrote: On 17 May 2011, at 09:04, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Or do you mean a spec bug? I meant a spec bug :) http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12664 Still, I don't think just advocacy is any kind of solution

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2011-05-16 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 14 May 2011 00:34:36 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: For the record, I removed Opera's support (I assume it was an unintended side-effect) for object data=javascript:... along with the rest at the time when I wrote my previous mail

Re: [whatwg] video ... script race condition

2011-05-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:25:39 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 11:40 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Problem: video src=video.webm/video ... script document.querySelector('video').oncanplay = function() { /* will it run? */ }; /script In the above

Re: [whatwg] Dynamic pseudo-classes on video/audio element to allow styling of controls

2011-04-23 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
/pause, seek, volume, etc... -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Dynamic pseudo-classes on video/audio element to allow styling of controls

2011-04-23 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:02:56 +0200, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 05:25:20 +0200, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: I wonder if it makes sense to introduce a set

Re: [whatwg] Dynamic pseudo-classes on video/audio element to allow styling of controls

2011-04-23 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:32:06 +0200, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:02:56 +0200, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Philip

Re: [whatwg] Implementation difficulties for MediaController

2011-03-30 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
rate and offset that the author is intending to use must be known up-front and not be allowed to change later. * changing overall playback rate while a synced set of media is playing Should not be much more difficult than changing playback rates of individual media resources. -- Philip

[whatwg] Indicate a file name for data: URLs?

2011-03-21 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
to save script-generated data that don't involve bouncing against a server? If not, any ideas how one might fix this with data: URLs? The Content-Disposition header solves this problem, but can't be applied here. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Stream API Feedback

2011-03-17 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
and make API inconsistent with img and iframe for example. video is already very different to img and iframe in that it also has child source elements and a currentSrc attribute. What's the practical harm in allowing video.src setter take an object? -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera

Re: [whatwg] Stream API Feedback

2011-03-17 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:51:08 +0100, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi wrote: On 03/17/2011 06:31 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:48:40 +0100, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi wrote: On 03/17/2011 03:11 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: On 2011-03-16 19:29, Olli Pettay wrote

Re: [whatwg] device use cases

2011-03-15 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:26:29 +0100, Jörn Zaefferer joern.zaeffe...@googlemail.com wrote: Where did you hear that device was cancelled? http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5944to=5945 Detailed responses to feedback on the topic will be sent out soon. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core

Re: [whatwg] Redirect handling for audio video

2011-03-04 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
be removed from the resource fetch algorithm, but the http vs https origin issue is not something that can really be changed. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Google Feedback on the HTML5 media a11y specifications

2011-02-15 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 04:28:36 +0100, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Philip, On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 03:57:37 +0100, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: A. Feedback on the WebVTT

Re: [whatwg] Why are media event handlers defined on HTMLElement instead of HTMLMediaElement

2011-02-15 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
defined on HTMLMediaElement instead. All event handler attributes are defined on HTMLElement regardless of which kind of element they are fired on, because it's simpler to implement this way, and is already implemented this way. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Google Feedback on the HTML5 media a11y specifications

2011-02-15 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
support (boo!) or removing all comments before publishing On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: 1. Authors are encouraged to not manually line-break I think that, no matter what you do, people will insert line breaks in cues. I'd follow the HTML model

Re: [whatwg] Why are media event handlers defined on HTMLElement instead of HTMLMediaElement

2011-02-15 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:13:26 +0100, David Flanagan da...@davidflanagan.com wrote: On 02/15/2011 02:17 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:54:54 +0100, David Flanagan da...@davidflanagan.com wrote: The draft specification defines 20+ medial event handler IDL attributes

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2011-02-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
of expertise, so others at Opera might decide that the spec is great and push in the opposite direction. It seems unlikely at this point, though.) On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Based on this, unless there are corner-cases I've missed, it seems unlikely that there's a large body

Re: [whatwg] Google Feedback on the HTML5 media a11y specifications

2011-02-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
or to report a typo in the captions without having to retype the whole text. Premium Captions can be protected using the same tricks that are used to prevent Premium DOM Text Nodes from being copied. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Google Feedback on the HTML5 media a11y specifications

2011-01-24 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
? -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Google Feedback on the HTML5 media a11y specifications

2011-01-24 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:57:10 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Multi-languaged subtitles/captions seem to be extremely uncommon, unsurprisingly, since you have to understand all the languages to be able

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-24 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:36:15 +0100, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: Ah, thanks for clarifying. It might be a bit odd for the spec to forbid being too clever, but I think that in practice always

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-24 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:10:21 +0100, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:36:15 +0100, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: Interop problems are going to arise

Re: [whatwg] Google Feedback on the HTML5 media a11y specifications

2011-01-24 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:28:36 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Wouldn't a more sane approach here be to have each language in its own file, each marked up with its own language, so that they can be enabled

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-23 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:06:30 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: I agree that there must exist a buffering strategy between strategy=metadata and strategy=auto, but it's not clear that this must be exposed

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-23 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:13:15 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: I do think that in the basic case of a user pressing play on a video player, it's good to be able to make that respond instantly rather than

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:11:56 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: I'm fine with any terminology, as long as it allows implementations to seek to some other time than currentTime if it's (much) faster to do so

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
a.m., Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Since, as you say, the behavior is currently inconsistent, there is still time to agree on something that makes sense and have everyone implement that. I think the best default is keyframe seeking and haven't seen any strong arguments for accurate seeking

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:16:21 +0100, Zachary Ozer z...@longtailvideo.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: * effective state can only increase to higher states, never go from e.g. metadata to none (it makes no sense) What if my bandwidth

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:01:26 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Should there be any consistency requirements for fast seeking? Suppose you have a format that's high-bitrate but cheap to decode. Accurately

Re: [whatwg] Google Feedback on the HTML5 media a11y specifications

2011-01-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
with text selection? Detaching the captions into a floating, draggable window via the context menu would be a theoretically possible solution, but that's getting rather far ahead of ourselves before we have basic captioning support. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-21 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
agree that seeking should always land within the duration of a frame as opposed to rounding. I'll land a fix for this later today. Andrew [1] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52697 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 05:01

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-21 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. Accurate seeking would be done via seek(time, accurate) or some such. Setting currentTime is left as is and doesn't set any flags. Most of the plumbing is already in the spec: http://whatwg.org/html#dom-media-seek -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-21 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:15:43 +0100, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Since, as you say, the behavior is currently inconsistent, there is still time to agree on something that makes sense and have everyone

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:14:12 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: If the available bandwidth exceeds the bandwidth of the resource, some kind of throttling must eventually be used. There are mainly 2 options

Re: [whatwg] Value of media.currentTime immediately after setting

2011-01-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
position. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
and will be in a future Opera release. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
: please don't waste my bandwidth more than necessary. In other words, I think that for preload=metadata, browsers should be somewhat conservative even after playback has begun, not going all the way to the preload=auto behavior. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
any of these solutions are particularly good, so any input on other options is very welcome! -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Limiting the amount of downloaded but not watched video

2011-01-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
an invoked but paused video to behave like preload=auto. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:16:59 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: (Also, it might be useful to be able to chose whether seeking should be fast or exact, as frame-accurate seeking is hardly necessary in most

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:23:57 +0100, Eric Carlson eric.carl...@apple.com wrote: On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: For the record, this is the solution I've been imagining: * add

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-12 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:03:03 +0100, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: * add HTMLMediaElement.seek(t, [exact]), where exact defaults to false if missing Boolean parameters are evil, since it's

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
years. (Being able to seek to the next frame is by itself obviously useful, even outside of editing applications, to allow users to single-step videos as you can in any native video player.) -- Glenn Maynard -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video: frame accuracy / SMPTE

2011-01-11 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
similar to Firefox and WebKit in this regard, making no use of fps metadata from the media engine (typically GStreamer). -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2011-01-05 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:02:45 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: If you need an intermediary format while editing, you can just use any syntax you like and have the editor treat it specially. If I'd need

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2011-01-04 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:40:51 +0100, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: But what's the use case? Is it really useful to have comments in a subtitle file? Being able to put licensing/contact information at the top

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2011-01-04 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:56:56 +0100, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:57:50 +0100, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: To use a different style for the cues that are sung together, so that you know when it's your turn to sing. It's not clear whether

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2011-01-03 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
to enable together, I can't see desktop Opera allowing multiple tracks (of the same kind) to be enabled via the main UI. On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I'm not particularly fond of the current voice markup, mainly for 2 reasons: First, a cue can only have 1 voice, which

Re: [whatwg] Handling unknown 'duration's

2010-12-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
durationchange event is fired and the duration is reported to be the (now known) length of the resource. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] TimedTracks and MPEG transport streams - tracks can change dynamically

2010-12-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
, I think that having loadedmetadata fire again if the number or type of streams change would make some sense. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-12-03 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:56:33 +0100, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 12/2/10 2:31 PM, Daniel Veditz wrote: On 12/1/10 7:29 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/1/10 3:49 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: I dunno about solid, but the obvious things you can do with javascript: that you can't do

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-12-02 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:24:31 +0100, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 12/1/10 3:16 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Do you do that just for inlines, or also when navigating to javascript: URLs? If it's both, then that's something we'd need to standardize, unless all browsers already do

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-12-02 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:38:33 +0100, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 09:32:43 +0100, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Right, these aren't inlines, in Opera terminology at least. As far as I can see the spec agrees on this, as frames/iframes have

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-12-01 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:30:31 +0100, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 11/30/10 4:35 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: No, as far as I know, Opera hasn't ever sandboxed any inline javascript: URL execution. So img src=javascript: runs the JS in the page's context in Opera? No, img

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-12-01 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
be made completely consistent for security reasons, I guess it comes down to use cases. Are there solid use cases for using the return values of sandboxed scripts as the content of documents, that aren't equally well served by the data: protocol? -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-11-30 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:36:32 +0100, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 11/25/10 9:10 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Based on this, unless there are corner-cases I've missed, it seems unlikely that there's a large body of web content that depends on inline javascript: URLs executing. My

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-11-30 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
with the plugin (icedtea6-plugin) installed. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-11-30 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:21:21 +0100, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:10:28 +0100, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:48:45 +0100, timeless timel...@gmail.com wrote: http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/guide/misc

Re: [whatwg] Javascript: URLs as element attributes

2010-11-25 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
in this direction and change the spec to match? (It seems that IE and WebKit are already basically already doing what I'm advocating.) -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-27 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:49:00 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:09:24 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Using !-- -- is a bad idea since the WebSRT syntax

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:35:50 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:30:03 +0200, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:11:16 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
in Notepad, and then suddenly it doesn't work anymore. Instead we should allow the BOM. (WebSRT already allows the BOM.) This means that it's tricker to use WebSRT as the magic bytes, but I agree it's probably the better trade-off. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Autoplaying media elements not in a document

2010-10-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
the change in behavior was accidental, the spec should instead say and the media element is not in a Document whose browsing context had the sandboxed automatic features browsing context flag set when the Document was created. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
, in-document styling namespace, instead of relying upon page CSS. Kind regards, Jeroen -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:39:43 -0700, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/10/2010, at 1:28 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:18:37 -0700, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Philip Jägenstedt

Re: [whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
the mail starting as above quoted, http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-October/028815.html is what I wanted to send. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:37:06 -0700, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: Styling hooks were requested.If we only have the predefined tags (i, b, ...) and voices, these will most certainly be abused

Re: [whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:18:37 -0700, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:37:06 -0700, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Philip

[whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-05 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
/metadata.html [8] http://www.foms-workshop.org/foms2010OVC/ [9] http://www.foms-workshop.org/foms2010OVC/pmwiki.php/Main/WebSRT [10] http://ale5000.altervista.org/subtitles.htm [11] http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/SRT_research -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-22 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
, but it doesn't really solve the problem at hand. I don't have a strong opinion on whether or not the problem is worth solving, but if we do solve it a read-write posterVisible IDL attribute would be OK by me. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-09-14 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:30:03 +0200, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:11:16 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: The point of a header is that browsers can identify WebSRT files and not keep parsing through a 100GB movie file, I don't think we

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-09-13 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:27:48 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:08:43 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Ian

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-09 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
of determining CanPlay, dispatch, if the HTML source gave you a mime type? On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:33 , Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:00:55 +0200, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 9/7/10 3:29 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: * Sniff only if Content-Type is typical of what

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-09-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:19:17 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#attr-track-kind The distinction between subtitles and captions isn't terribly clear. It says

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
the video decoder might consume arbitrary amounts of data before saying that there was an error. I agree with Boris, the first two points are OK but the third I'd rather not implement, it's too much work for something that ought to happen very, very rarely. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:46:29 +0200, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: The Ogg page begins with the 4 bytes OggS, which is what

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_475be8240100ew5q.html [4] http://www.zgddhj.cn/zj/bh/zhouhongyi/201007/32053.html -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
. That doesn't seem to apply here.) It hasn't been explicitly stated, but I assume that the only cases where sniffing for video formats would be employed would be for missing Content-Type, text/plain and application/octet-stream. -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:54:15 +0200, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 9/7/10 6:52 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: It hasn't been explicitly stated, but I assume that the only cases where sniffing for video formats would be employed would be for missing Content-Type, text/plain

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-07 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:56:38 +0200, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 9/7/10 4:11 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: It's garbage in at least UTF-8, Big5 and GBK. Thanks. I assume that applies to the OggS\0 sequence too, right? I appreciate the data! UTF-8, Big5 and GBK are all

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-06 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
/ogg/doc/rfc3533.txt [3] http://ebml.sourceforge.net/specs/ -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software

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