Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2008-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, ddailey wrote: I sometimes enjoy the ability to clone images that have no src or no width or no style. I certainly like to vary the height and width attributes via setAttribute, and I might like, in the future, to be able to attach an animate tag (ala SMIL) to the

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2008-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Mar 3, 2007, at 21:58, Ian Hickson wrote: The question isn't whether or not you should have the ability to scale images; it's clear that this is desirable. The question is whether it makes sense to put this in HTML as opposed to CSS. Why

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2008-04-12 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
any more. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct? On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Benjamin West wrote: img style=height

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-21 Thread Thomas Broyer
2007/3/21, Nicholas Shanks: On 17 Mar 2007, at 23:28, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote: I think that in most cases will be better if we could package complex pages into zip envelopes and deliver them in the whole. That would be real solution of jumps. And img width=... height=... is a palliative. I

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-21 Thread Nicholas Shanks
On 21 Mar 2007, at 09:37, Henri Sivonen wrote: OTOH, the left/right alignment of table cells *is* often tightly coupled with the cell data, which suggests that the cell alignment attributes should not be dropped. Alternatively it could just be allowed on the col and colspan, where it

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-20 Thread ddailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sander Tekelenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Benjamin West [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct? Gareth Hay wrote: If i'm not mistaken, the idea of separation of content and style means

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-20 Thread Nicholas Shanks
On 17 Mar 2007, at 23:28, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote: I think that in most cases will be better if we could package complex pages into zip envelopes and deliver them in the whole. That would be real solution of jumps. And img width=... height=... is a palliative. I have an open bug with

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-18 Thread Sander Tekelenburg
At 15:28 -0800 UTC, on 2007-03-17, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote: [...] So the main motivation is to avoid jumpy rendering, correct? Correct. In principle style sheet downloading is also asynchronous process. And CSS can do many things that may cause jumps. So if we will require image to have

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-18 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:28:30 +0100, Andrew Fedoniouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that in most cases will be better if we could package complex pages into zip envelopes and deliver them in the whole. That would be real solution of jumps. And img width=... height=... is a palliative.

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-17 Thread Andrew Fedoniouk
- Original Message - From: Sander Tekelenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct? | At 03:46 +1300 UTC, on 2007-03-17, Dean Edridge wrote: | | The chance of someone not being able

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-16 Thread Dean Edridge
Regarding: img dimensions to be correct? Sander Tekelenburg wrote: We struggled with this for the WRI requirements[*]. We seem to be settling on requiring a width and height to be specified in HTML, because as nice as CSS is, Web pages must not be CSS-dependant. Even if the author means to

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-16 Thread Benjamin West
On 3/16/07, Dean Edridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firstly, the chance of someone not being able to access the CSS for a web page is I'm guessing, pretty slim. img style=height: 50px; width: 50px; / Why is accessing CSS a problem? -Ben West

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-16 Thread Gareth Hay
If i'm not mistaken, the idea of separation of content and style means you can use your own css, or even none at all, and still have the ability to view the content. If a page is dependent on the css, then, although in a separate file, it is fundamentally not separate at all, and we might

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-16 Thread Dean Edridge
Benjamin West wrote: On 3/16/07, Dean Edridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firstly, the chance of someone not being able to access the CSS for a web page is I'm guessing, pretty slim. img style=height: 50px; width: 50px; / Why is accessing CSS a problem? -Ben West I never said that

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-16 Thread Dean Edridge
Gareth Hay wrote: If i'm not mistaken, the idea of separation of content and style means you can use your own css, or even none at all, and still have the ability to view the content. If a page is dependent on the css, then, although in a separate file, it is fundamentally not separate at

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-04 Thread Sander Tekelenburg
At 19:58 + UTC, on 2007-03-03, Ian Hickson wrote: On Sat, 3 Mar 2007, Elliotte Harold wrote: [...] I'm +1 on allowing percentages. That seems like a useful feature to me. Allowing percentages would be entirely presentational and thus have no place in HTML. The question isn't whether or

Re: [whatwg] require img dimensions to be correct?

2007-03-03 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007, Elliotte Harold wrote: There's an open issue in Web Apps 1.0 on img dimensions: The height and width attributes give the preferred rendered dimensions of the image if the image is to be shown in a visual medium. Should we require the dimensions to be correct? Should