Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-12 Thread Mike Wilcox
I'm perplexed at the resistance. We've tried telling our clients not to use IE6, IE8 is much faster. But inevitably, we have to make it work. Mike Wilcox http://clubajax.org m...@mikewilcox.net On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 8/11/10 9:17 PM, Garrett Smith wrote: On

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-12 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:24:10 +0200, Mike Wilcox m...@mikewilcox.net wrote: I'm perplexed at the resistance. We've tried telling our clients not to use IE6, IE8 is much faster. But inevitably, we have to make it work. This is not nytimes.com. There's http://whatwg.org/html and

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-11 Thread Garrett Smith
On 8/10/10, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Garrett Smith wrote: This is about the fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge of writing the slow and buggy ajvascript on the HTML 5 spec please remove that? The problem is that that whatwg page causes freezes

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 8/11/10 3:49 AM, Garrett Smith wrote: I'm running Firefox 3.6.4 on windows 7 Which has a known performance bug with a particular reasonably rare class of DOM mutations. The only way for the spec to avoid performing such mutations is to not add the annotation boxes (which is what it will

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-11 Thread Garrett Smith
On 8/11/10, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 8/11/10 3:49 AM, Garrett Smith wrote: I'm running Firefox 3.6.4 on windows 7 Which has a known performance bug with a particular reasonably rare class of DOM mutations. The only way for the spec to avoid performing such mutations is to

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 8/11/10 10:31 AM, Garrett Smith wrote: It would have been more helpful to explain, if you can, the cause of the slowness in Firefox.. Sure thing. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481131#c12 (the paragraph starting The time) and

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 8/11/10 11:48 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: javascript:var start = new Date(); function f(n) { for (var k = n.firstChild; k; k = n.nextSibling) f(k); } f(document); alert(new Date() - start) Er, that had a typo. The correct script is: javascript:var start = new Date(); function f(n) { for (var

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-11 Thread Garrett Smith
On 8/11/10, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 8/11/10 11:48 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: javascript:var start = new Date(); function f(n) { for (var k = n.firstChild; k; k = n.nextSibling) f(k); } f(document); alert(new Date() - start) Er, that had a typo. The correct script is:

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 8/11/10 9:17 PM, Garrett Smith wrote: On 8/11/10, Boris Zbarskybzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 8/11/10 11:48 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: javascript:var start = new Date(); function f(n) { for (var k = n.firstChild; k; k = n.nextSibling) f(k); } f(document); alert(new Date() - start) Er, that had

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-08-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Garrett Smith wrote: This is about the fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge of writing the slow and buggy ajvascript on the HTML 5 spec please remove that? The problem is that that whatwg page causes freezes and crashes [...] That sounds like a bug

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-09 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2010-07-08 19:18, Diego Perini wrote: On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Lachlan Huntlachlan.h...@lachy.id.auwrote: As a workaround, you can use AdBlock in Firefox to block the offending script. Just manually add this URL to your block list.

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-08 Thread Diego Perini
I do not see the reason of having a specification lecture also be a stress-test. As Aaron already said I just want to be able to read the specs. A button at the top maybe to switch to the stress-test ? Diego On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 7/7/10

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-08 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2010-07-08 02:28, Garrett Smith wrote: This is about the fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge of writing the slow and buggy ajvascript on the HTML 5 spec please remove that? The problem is that that whatwg page causes freezes and crashes in Firefox. i As a workaround,

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-08 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Jul 8, 2010, at 00:45, Diego Perini wrote: I do not see the reason of having a specification lecture also be a stress-test. As Aaron already said I just want to be able to read the specs. A button at the top maybe to switch to the stress-test ? It's not primarily a stress test. The

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-08 Thread Diego Perini
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Jul 8, 2010, at 00:45, Diego Perini wrote: I do not see the reason of having a specification lecture also be a stress-test. As Aaron already said I just want to be able to read the specs. A button at the top

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-08 Thread Diego Perini
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.auwrote: On 2010-07-08 02:28, Garrett Smith wrote: This is about the fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge of writing the slow and buggy ajvascript on the HTML 5 spec please remove that? The problem is

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-08 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 19:18 +0200, Diego Perini wrote: On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: On 2010-07-08 02:28, Garrett Smith wrote: This is about the fourth time I've said it here. Can the

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-08 Thread Garrett Smith
On 7/8/10, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: On 2010-07-08 02:28, Garrett Smith wrote: This is about the fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge of writing the slow and buggy ajvascript on the HTML 5 spec please remove that? The problem is that that whatwg page

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-07 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: This is about the  fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge of writing the slow and buggy ajvascript on the HTML 5 spec please remove that? The problem is that that whatwg page causes freezes and

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-07 Thread Aaron Boodman
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: This is about the  fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge of writing the slow and buggy ajvascript on the HTML 5 spec please

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-07 Thread Garrett Smith
On 7/7/10, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: This is about the fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge of writing the slow and buggy ajvascript on the HTML 5 spec please remove that? The

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-07 Thread Dirk Pranke
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: This is about the  fourth time I've said it here. Can the person in charge

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-07 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 7/7/10 5:28 PM, Garrett Smith wrote: The problem is that that whatwg page causes freezes and crashes in Firefox. May I recommend trying out Firefox 4 beta 1? ;) -Boris

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) - Mozilla Firefox (Not Responding)

2010-07-07 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 7/7/10 5:43 PM, Aaron Boodman wrote: I hear this every so often. Do we really need the spec to double as a browser stress test? I mean, there are actual test suites nowadays. I just want to read the spec. I'll just note that part of the reason it's a stress test, apart from the old Firefox