Re: [whatwg] Spec should require UAs to have control to mute/ pause audio/ video

2009-06-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 7 May 2009, Bruce Lawson wrote: I think the spec should explicity require UAs to provide a mehanism to mute audio and to pause video, even if the controls attribute is not set. We can't require this. Imagine a user agent that is a jumbotron in Times Square, controlled by just a

Re: [whatwg] Spec should require UAs to have control to mute/ pause audio/ video

2009-05-12 Thread Erik Vorhes
On Sat, May 9, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: The issue is that not all browsers have significant configs (I'm thinking of mobile browsers here), and I don't believe their inability to provide such a choice to the user should make them nonconforming. If a UA is incapable of audio

Re: [whatwg] Spec should require UAs to have control to mute/ pause audio/ video

2009-05-12 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Erik Vorhes e...@textivism.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: The issue is that not all browsers have significant configs (I'm thinking of mobile browsers here), and I don't believe their inability to provide such a choice to the

Re: [whatwg] Spec should require UAs to have control to mute/ pause audio/ video

2009-05-09 Thread Bruce Lawson
On Fri, 08 May 2009 02:10:20 +0100, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Bruce Lawson bru...@opera.com wrote: Should autoplay be removed as an attribute of audio and video, precisely to remove such annoyance from people who rely on aural browsing?

Re: [whatwg] Spec should require UAs to have control to mute/ pause audio/ video

2009-05-09 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Bruce Lawson bru...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 08 May 2009 02:10:20 +0100, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see why this should be a browser requirement.  UAs are *allowed* to provide such a facility to their users, so if your UA doesn't,

Re: [whatwg] Spec should require UAs to have control to mute/ pause audio/ video

2009-05-07 Thread James Graham
Bruce Lawson wrote: This may already be in the spec, but I couldn't find it. I think the spec should explicity require UAs to provide a mehanism to mute audio and to pause video, even if the controls attribute is not set. This would not make sense in some situations e.g. for a UA designed to