Re: [whatwg] Drag-and-drop feedback

2010-02-05 Thread Roland Steiner
Quick correction/addendum: FireFox seems to be actually fine with CRLF as line separator in setData(text/uri-list, data) and will return only the first URL within data on getData(URL). However, it doesn't seem to return files as URLs with getData(text/uri-list), which I guess would be my third

Re: [whatwg] some thoughts on sandboxed IFRAMEs

2010-02-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On 4 Feb 2010, at 17:44, Michal Zalewski wrote: If there's no HTML, there's no need for a sandbox, so the simplest solution is just to escape the s and s. Which people fail at, big time. There are 50,000+ entries on xssed.com, many of them against big sites presumably developed by skilled

Re: [whatwg] some thoughts on sandboxed IFRAMEs

2010-02-05 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Kornel Lesinski wrote: However, if we're going to introduce token-based sandbox anyway, I suggest putting token in tag name: sandbox-$token.../sandbox-$token where $token is the random part. This avoids oddity of attributes in closing tag, and is compatible with XML. In XML you could also use:

Re: [whatwg] some thoughts on sandboxed IFRAMEs

2010-02-05 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Kornel Lesinski wrote: However, if we're going to introduce token-based sandbox anyway, I suggest putting token in tag name: sandbox-$token.../sandbox-$token where $token is the random part. This avoids oddity of attributes in closing tag, and is compatible with XML. In

Re: [whatwg] some thoughts on sandboxed IFRAMEs

2010-02-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On 5 Feb 2010, at 14:19, Lachlan Hunt wrote: where $token is the random part. This avoids oddity of attributes in closing tag, and is compatible with XML. In XML you could also use: $token:sandbox xmlns:$token=…/$token:sandbox No, you couldn't use a namespace like that, because then the

Re: [whatwg] some thoughts on sandboxed IFRAMEs

2010-02-05 Thread Philip Taylor
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2010, Alex Russell wrote: AFAICT, the objections fall into several buckets:   1.) Users might pick badly or may re-use nonces when they shouldn't.   2.) Escaping is believed to be more secure because it's

[whatwg] Lists and legal documents

2010-02-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Legal documents often use various indicators for list items. E.g. a. ... b. ... c. ... or 1. ... 2. ... 3. ... or I. ... II. ... III. ... or A. ... B. ... C. ... etc. These indicators are part of the content and cannot be governed by style sheets. End users

Re: [whatwg] Lists and legal documents

2010-02-05 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: These indicators are part of the content and cannot be governed by style sheets. End users having their own custom style sheets overwriting the indicators with their own preference would be a problem, for instance. I

[whatwg] Weaning the Web off of Session Cookies

2010-02-05 Thread Timothy D. Morgan
Hello, Not long ago I published a paper which makes some observations about the state of security in web session management and proposes some small changes in browsers. Someone suggested I post it here for comments. See:

Re: [whatwg] api for fullscreen()

2010-02-05 Thread David Singer
On Feb 4, 2010, at 16:53 , Kit Grose wrote: I also develop kiosk and medical applications where fullscreen is not only desirable but necessary behaviour. Crippling the API such that the developer cannot determine whether or not the user permitted their application to run fullscreen is

Re: [whatwg] Lists and legal documents

2010-02-05 Thread Brian Campbell
On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: These indicators are part of the content and cannot be governed by style sheets. End users having their own custom style sheets overwriting the indicators with their own preference would be a problem, for instance. I have seen at least

[whatwg] Suddenly, ~40% of IE users get HTML5 Theora with no effort

2010-02-05 Thread David Gerard
http://www.atoker.com/blog/2010/02/04/html5-theora-video-codec-for-silverlight/ http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/02/nuanti-brings-html5-and-ogg-theora-video-to-silverlight.ars The 40% is from the blog post at the top. - d.

[whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-05 Thread Rowan Nairn
Hi, In the spirit of paving some cow paths I'd like to put forward a proposal for a future version of HTML. The behavior I'm addressing is sites that replace links to external content with a framed version of that content, along with their own overlay of information and links. I think with some

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-05 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 2/5/10 5:40 PM, Rowan Nairn wrote: - don't introduce new security issues like susceptibility to phishing attacks - The main URL bar should display the framed URL i.e. http://destination-site.com/ I'm having a really really really hard time reconciling these two, especially in the

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-05 Thread Rowan Nairn
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 2/5/10 5:40 PM, Rowan Nairn wrote: - don't introduce new security issues like susceptibility to phishing attacks - The main URL bar should display the framed URL i.e. http://destination-site.com/ I'm having a

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-05 Thread Rowan Nairn
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 2/5/10 5:40 PM, Rowan Nairn wrote: - don't introduce new security issues like susceptibility to phishing attacks - The main URL bar should display the framed URL i.e. http://destination-site.com/ I'm having a