Sorry to jump into this conversation at such a late point, but I only
just joined the mailing list.
About 8 years ago, we had the idea of using fragment offsets to start
playing from offsets of media files. However, in discussions with the
URI standardisation team at W3C it turned out that
On 3/23/07, Sander Tekelenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know of a video container format that allows named anchors to be
specified, though.
QuickTime let's authors define points in a .mov container as chapters,
which, in the cotext of the Web, could function as named anchors I'd
The difference between streaming and non-streaming is artificial and
not technically necessary - except for life content, where you cannot
jump into the future.
Silvia.
On 3/23/07, Gareth Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this case, there is a big difference between streamed data, which
can be
already work through the Annodex framework for ogg files.
Regards,
Silvia.
On 3/24/07, Kornel Lesinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:24:30 -, Silvia Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's say there's http://example.com/example.html page which contains
embedded video
Hi Dave,
On 3/28/07, Dave Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We really feel that the HTML spec. should say no more about video and
audio formats than it does about image formats (which is merely to give
examples), and we should strive independently for audio/video
convergence. We'd really
On 3/28/07, Christian F.K. Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:57 +0900, Dave Singer wrote:
At 19:28 +0200 27/03/07, Christian F.K. Schaller wrote:
Apple has
neither power or desire to stop people implementing the video tag on
any platform, and indeed the whole point
On 3/30/07, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Gervase Markham wrote:
Dave Singer wrote:
No, writing it into the HTML specification is not a commercial reason.
Assuming you have commercial reasons for supporting HTML 5 (which I
suspect you do, otherwise you
Hi Charles, Dave,
On 4/10/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
On 4/9/07, Dave Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Theora video and Vorbis audio in Ogg container. (application/ogg; .ogg)
* Dirac video and Vorbis audio in Ogg container. (application/ogg; .ogg)
*
On 4/11/07, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 10, 2007, at 11:58 AM, Ralph Giles wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:21:10AM -0700, Dave Singer wrote:
# application/ogg; disposition=moving-image; codecs=theora, vorbis
# application/ogg; disposition=sound; codecs=speex
what
On 4/12/07, Dave Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:12 +1000 11/04/07, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On 4/11/07, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wouldn't it be simpler to use video/ogg and audio/ogg as the base
types here? That would already tell you the intended disposition.
Please
On 6/24/07, Spartanicus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Allan Sandfeld Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thus, I suggest to change the wording to User agents must support
Theora video and Vorbis audio, as well as the Ogg container format.
Or a clear sign that the video tag was doomed to failure
On 6/24/07, Spartanicus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imo for content providers to choose video over Flash, client support
needs to be close to Flash. Requiring IE and Safari users to go and
download and install third party software to play content would imo be
considered too much of a hindrance when
On 6/25/07, Spartanicus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally I detest Java (resource hog, slow as wading through molasses)
and don't have it installed, so forgive my potential ignorance.
Don't we all hate java? ;-)
Why
create an HTML video element with the express purpose of supporting
video
On 6/25/07, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our current plan is to primarily support MPEG-4, including H.264/AVC
video and AAC audio. We may support other codecs as well - it won't
necessarily be the full set of codecs supported by QuickTime. This
has been discussed to death already,
Hi Dave,
On 6/25/07, Dave Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:16 +1000 25/06/07, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Thanks Maciej for summarising Apple's position so nicely.
I think it's good that you have spelled it out:
Apple is happy to support MPEG-4, which has known patent encumberance
So a company which owns a patent on a standard that can bought and
read at freedom is just as bad as a company which owns a patent on a
standard that has absolutely no public documentation?
If you're talking about Ogg Theora, then you've got your facts wrong.
First of all, Ogg Theora is not
Hi Jerason,
I think there may be a lack of information about Theora rather than
anything else.
On 6/27/07, Jerason Banes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I may, I'd like to echo Timeless's point here. I've been watching this
thread with great interest and believe I understand both sides of the
Hi Chris,
this is a very good discussion to have and I would be curious about
the opinions of people.
CMML has been developed with an aim to provide html-type timed text
annotations for audio/video - in particular hyperlinks and annotations
to temporal sections of videos. This is both, more
Xiph has taken on board the many comments received over the last years
wrt MIME types and file extensions and is working on this more
appropriate I-D for MIME types cited by Ivo.
Here is what effect it has on the WHAT-WG spec:
The spec:
Theora video and Vorbis audio in Ogg container
source
Just a further note on this since I have received a few private concerns:
On 10/24/07, Silvia Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The new way:
Vorbis audio alone in Ogg container
source src=audio.ogg type=audio/ogg; codecs=vorbis
or
source src=audio.oga type=audio/ogg; codecs=vorbis
It is in the process of being changed, so video/ogg is accurate.
FYI: The current draft is at
https://trac.xiph.org/browser/experimental/ivo/drafts/draft-xiph-rfc3534bis.txt
.
Feedback should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regards,
Silvia.
On Nov 9, 2007 10:11 AM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is indeed a topic relevant to HTML5, but not in its scope to address.
When we developed Annodex (see
http://annodex.net/TR/draft-pfeiffer-temporal-fragments-03.txt), we
researched this topic intensively and discussed it within the URI
mailing list and here are the results in summary:
The
On Dec 12, 2007 11:38 AM, Dave Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Possible action:
The members of the WG are engineers, not IPR experts. There is
general consensus that a solution is desirable, but also that
engineers are not well placed to find it:
a) they are not experts in the IPR and
On Dec 12, 2007 4:08 PM, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
El Mié 12 Dic 2007, Robert Sayre escribió:
On Dec 11, 2007 6:51 PM, David Hyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SHOULD is toothless.
Spefications aren't laws. MUSTs are toothless as well.
It carries absolutely no
implementation of a codec will be slower and will drain the battery way
faster than a codec that relies on HW accelleration.
But lets examine the outcome of the W3C workshop.
Cheers
- Guido
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext
Silvia
Charles,
This needs some correction, too, I think. :-)
Ogg Theora is not the same as VC3. It was built out of VC3 and the
specification is available freely and openly and there has been a 1.0
release of the specification, so it is also managed well from that
point of view. That Xiph is not an
The spec is not finalised and the a/v baseline codec question is one
of the open questions.
As exerience from the W3C video workshop shows, all involved parties
want to find a solution for a baseline codec that can actually be
mandated. I am confident that the new year will see us solve this
Ivo, all,
Xiph has decided to make .oga and .ogv the extensions of the future,
to avoid the current confusion between .ogg being in use for vorbis
and theora files. The use of extensions is mostly to select between
applications, so .oga for audio files and .ogv for video files make
more sense
I of course meant: royalty-free!!
S.
On Dec 30, 2007 5:41 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The spec is not finalised and the a/v baseline codec question is one
of the open questions.
As exerience from the W3C video workshop shows, all involved parties
want to find a solution
Hi Charles,
It was my understanding that video controls should be able to be added
through style sheet mechanisms. Thus, there is no pre-set
specification, but it is rather left to the web page designer. The
javascript API will allow to hook up the controls with the video
player. The controls
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Robert J Crisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The issue of a small licensing fee didn't stop MPEG 1 Part 3 from becoming
the ubiquitous world standard for audio.
MP3 because an ISO/IEC standard in 1991, but patent enforcement did
not happen until 1998, until which
Hi Dave,
If the W3C standardises time ranges through a URI approach, would
there still be a need to have a specification in the DOM or the HTML
code?
I am talking about this planned activity
http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-fragments-wg.html and a scheme akin to
the one mentioned here
I think this all makes sense.
+1 from me.
Cheers,
Silvia.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Philip Jägenstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm currently implementing more of audio and video (in Opera) and
will probably have quite a lot of questions/comments during the coming
months. If this
Hi Philip, Dave, all,
I agree with Philip and Dave that we need a simple way to include the
cue ranges concept into video for video authors.
As one of the authors of Annodex, I have been meaning to look over the
HTML5 video element for a while and examine how it's details works -
sorry for my
Just a little side-track for the video issues around this thread:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Ben Adida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also note that even CC leadership omits the license URI.
So you want a URI in the video content itself? What good would that do?
With links directly in the
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I honestly don't see significant interest in computer-readable metadata.
Just look at the average user's media library; most users have terrible
metadata hygene.
It is true, we live in the middle ages of metadata hygene.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Ben Adida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shannon wrote:
I think you were on to something with the CSS-like approach. Ian has
stated earlier that class should be considered a generic categorisation
element rather than only a CSS hook.
Three things:
1) specifying
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Ben Adida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In general, I find it surprising that HTML5 wants to reinvent
everything, rather than at least partially rely on work done in other
groups.
I don't see it as such. HTML5 is analysing the situation from all
aspects with a view
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:03 -0700 schrieb Eric Carlson:
After thinking about this, I'm not sure that limiting playback to a
section of a media file will be used very often.
Transcript anyone ? If you want
that's
a louder voice?
May be a bit early for that. Let's get audio and video into the Web first.
Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Linking to a specific time point or section in a media file is not
something that needs to be solved by HTML. It is in fact a URI issue
and is being developed by the W3C
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 15, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Eric Carlson wrote:
On Oct 15, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Chris Double wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Anne van Kesteren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
That's not the question. The question
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After thinking about this, I'm not sure that limiting playback to a
section of a media file will be used very often. A developer can easily
script the same functionality as long as they don't use the default
controller,
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eduard Pascual wrote:
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maciej (and I think others) have suggested that it would be useful if it
was
possible to allow audio to be used such that a
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Robert O'Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Tim Starling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
JavaScript already has measures along the lines of (2), in the context
of frames. The information a script can obtain about a frame from a
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Philip Jägenstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, if the codec parameter is used then the user agent may answer yes
and no in a way that actually makes some sense.
I also think that this should be explicitly related to the type
attribute of the source element.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Biju [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Chris Double [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Biju [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Maybe it is possible to combine the two approaches 2) and 3) as
proposed by Robert O'Callahan.
The Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * header would then allow access
to more information than is available through the restricted API.
(This was an approach suggested on #theora).
Regards,
Silvia.
On
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Biju [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
I still feel rather dubious about the currentTime attribute of the video
element.
When it is used to tell a server about
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On a little bit of a side not, may I point out that there is an updated
RFC for Ogg media types at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5334.txt and it
explicitly includes the codecs
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Eric Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 23, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Maik Merten wrote:
Eric Carlson schrieb:
Reporting the absolute time of the current sample won't help when the
first sample of the file doesn't have a timestamp of zero. It will be
even
Eric,
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Eric Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Silvia -
On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
I don't see addition of a duration attribute as much of a problem. We
have width and height for images, and sizes for fonts, too, and web
developers
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Maik Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Singer schrieb:
IF we are to do this, I would have thought it would be by adding units to
the where to seek to argument:
* go to this time in NPT (normal play time, which runs from 0 to media
duration)
* go to this
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Maik Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Silvia Pfeiffer schrieb:
In any case - if you (and also Chris Double) are satisfied with the
estimates you're getting for file duration/length - I'll stop arguing
for it. It would be nice to hear some experimental evidence
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 12:39 +, Ian Hickson wrote:
video src=circle.mpg width=400 height=400 !-- circle --
video src=circle.mpg width=400 height=300 !-- pillarbox --
This is effectively how
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 12:39 +, Ian Hickson wrote:
video src=circle.mpg width=400 height=400 !-- circle --
video src
Hi everybody,
For the last 2 months, I have been investigating means of satisfying
video accessibility needs through Ogg in Mozilla/Firefox for HTML5.
You will find a lot of information about our work at
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Video_Accessibility and in the
archives of the Ogg
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Martin Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Take this as an example:
video src=http://example.com/video.ogv; controls
text category=CC lang=en type=text/x-srt src=caption.srt/text
text category=SUB lang=de type=application/ttaf+xml
src
,
Silvia.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Robert O'Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Martin Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
I'm interested to hear people's opinions on these ideas. I agree with
Ralph and think having a simple, explicit
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Calogero Alex Baldacchino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, the use of subtitles in conjunction with screen readers might be
problematic: a deeper synchronization with the media might be needed in
order to have the text read just during voice pauses, to describe
://metavid-mike.blogspot.com/
Regards,
Silvia.
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I heard some complaints about there not being any implementation of
the suggestions I made.
So here goes:
1. out-of-band
There is an example of using srt with ogg in a out
:49 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I heard some complaints about there not being any implementation of
the suggestions I made.
So here goes:
1. out-of-band
There is an example of using srt with ogg in a out-of-band approach here:
http://v2v.cc/~j/jquery.srt/
You will need
to map time-aligned text formats to HTML, it will be
easy to deal with in HTML5.
Regards,
Silvia.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer
silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote:
And now we have a first demo of the proposed syntax in action. Michael
Dale implemented SRT support like
Hi Ian,
Thanks for taking the time to go through all the options, analyse and
understand them - especially on your birthday! :-) Much appreciated!
I agree with your analysis and the 6 options you have identified.
However, I disagree slightly with the conclusions you have come to -
mostly from a
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Hi Emil,
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Emil Tin e...@koblo.com wrote:
i understand that SVG is meant for advanced timing etc.
Maybe rather SMIL - that's where SVG got it from.
but it would be very useful to have a simple mechanism in html/javascript
for playing sounds together.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote:
If we want to display that there
is some more context around the video, we should display the offset
time. I personally would prefer
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote:
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:11:51 +0200, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz
wrote:
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Eric Carlson eric.carl...@apple.com
wrote:
Media time values are expressed in normal play time (NPT),
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Ralph Giles gi...@xiph.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer
silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote:
For example, take a video that is a subpart of a larger video and has
been delivered through a media fragment URI
(http://www.w3.org/2008
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:30 AM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote:
At 19:20 +0200 7/04/09, KÞi”tof Îelechovski wrote:
OTOH, if the media player scroll bar has zoom function, the problem of
navigation deficiency in a short interval disappears. When the browser
displays a fragment, it can
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:21 AM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote:
At 8:02 +1000 8/04/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Note that in the Media Fragment working group even the specification
of http://www.example.com/t.mov#time=10s-20s; may mean that only the
requested 10s clip is delivered
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:37 AM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote:
At 8:29 +1000 8/04/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
My mental analogy was HTML, where an acnhor takes you to that part of
the
page as a convenience, but nothing stops you from navigating away. And
in
the case where the UA
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Note that in the Media Fragment working group even the specification
of http://www.example.com/t.mov#time=10s-20s; may mean that only the
requested 10s clip is delivered
Since the part starting
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Note that in the Media Fragment working group even the specification
of http://www.example.com/t.mov#time=10s-20s; may mean that only the
requested 10s clip
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, David Singer wrote:
Navigation outside the indicated range could be done in several ways -
it does not have to be through indicating the full length of the
resource in the timeline.
surely. but which
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Note that in the Media Fragment working group even the specification of
http://www.example.com/t.mov#time=10s-20s; may mean that only the
requested 10s clip is delivered, especially if all the involved
instances in the exchange understand media
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Note that in the Media Fragment working group even the specification
of http://www.example.com/t.mov#time=10s-20s; may mean that only the
requested 10s clip is delivered, especially if all
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, David Singer wrote:
At 16:45 + 30/04/09, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, David Singer wrote:
If the resource is 'seekable' then time is relevant, and I agree
that time should be a normal
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote:
At 8:45 +1000 8/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:04 AM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote:
At 8:39 +0200 5/05/09, KÞitof Îelechovski wrote:
If the author wants to show only a sample
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:25 AM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote:
At 23:46 +1000 8/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote:
At 8:45 +1000 8/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:04 AM, David Singer sin
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote:
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote:
At 14:09 +1000 9/05/09, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Of course none of the
discussion will inherently disallow seeking - scripts will always be
able to do
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Chris DiBona cdib...@gmail.com wrote:
Looping in Danny (in transit)
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Geoffrey Sneddon
foolist...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 2 Jun 2009, at 02:58, Chris DiBona
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Daniel Berlin dan...@google.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
On
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
Thinking out loud: One thing that was mentioned in an earlier post:
Vorbis. I am also of the mind that Vorbis is of higher quality/mb/sec
and statically than is mp3. The only real problem is that people don't
pirate with it,
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Silvia
Pfeiffersilviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
..
I'm not even sure that writing it into the standard would make vendors
actually support it, for the reasons above. If everyone had only the
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Mike Shavermike.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
If Youtube is held back by client compatibility, they should be glad
that we're working hard to move ~25% of the web to having Theora
support in the
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
We certainly believe so, but I'm certainly not qualified to evaluate
the different techniques.
Would Theora inherently be any less able to than any other codec
system, though? I hope you're not saying that it has to be
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:25 AM, dark lorddarklord2...@gmail.com wrote:
I am really noob but wanted to know why and how Ogg fit in for video
sharing site like dailymotion and other's site's. I mean wht features
makes ogg a good contender for specificly video sharing site sites.
Plz give me
Hi Ian,
I have just posted a detailed reply on your email to public-html
(http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/0830.html),
so let me not repeat myself, but only address the things that I
haven't already addressed there.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Ian
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Maciej Stachowiakm...@apple.com wrote:
However, it's quite clear from even a cursory investigation that H.264 ASICs
are available from multiple vendors. This would not be the case if they
weren't shipping in high volume products. As I'm sure you know, ASICs have
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
Going forward, I see several (not mutually exclusive) possibilities, all
of which will take several years:
1. Ogg Theora encoders continue to improve. Off-the-shelf hardware Ogg
Theora decoder chips become available.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
That I can understand. But in this case, you should leave the paragraph
in the spec that states the need for a baseline codec, since the
situation hasn't changed and we are still
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
That action I can understand. But then I would say we should have a
collection of things that we need to work on for a second version of
HTML5, which obviously includes the baseline
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Robert O'Callahanrob...@ocallahan.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
For that to happen there has to be
some demand for Theora support, though, which the spec's can't generate.
Specs do generate demand --- by creating
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Maciej Stachowiakm...@apple.com wrote:
On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
For that to happen there has to be
some demand for Theora support, though, which the spec's can't
then compete on.
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
I agree: standards generate demand. It is how h.264 hardware support
originated - by making it a ISO standard, the vendors knew there would
be sufficient market demand for it and created the chips.
I disagree with both these statements, I
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/6 Jim Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com:
As of 2009, there is no single efficient codec which works on all
modern browsers. Content producers are encouraged to supply the video
in both Theora and H.264 formats, as per the
...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
1. Timed text in the resource itself (or linked from the resource
itself), rendered as part of the video automatically by the user
agent.
For case 1, the practical implications are that browser vendors will
have to develop support
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:31 PM, David Singersin...@apple.com wrote:
Thanks for the analysis, but two pieces of feedback:
1) Though sub-titles and captions are the most common accessibility issue
for audio/video content, they are not the only one. There are people:
-- who cannot see, and
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Philip Jägenstedtphil...@opera.com wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:58:30 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer
silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote:
3. Timed text stored in a separate file, which is then parsed by the
user agent and rendered as part of the video automatically
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