Re: [whatwg] IRC and WWW integration proposal

2013-02-01 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
=httpWHATWG/a But, what happens now? a href=http://whatwg.org; protocol=mailtoWHATWG/a Hilarious :-) -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-15 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
with predefined breakpoints. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for HTML5: Virtual Tours

2012-08-31 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
* not needed. This is such a small use case, and is doable already with canvas or other web features. Advanced tours? WebGL. Less advanced ones? Canvas, - or just images, css, transitions and animations. This is really something you can easily build with existing technologies. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont

Re: [whatwg] input type=barcode?

2012-08-31 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
reader, if you have one in your user agent, just use it... It will work already. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-08-10 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
for it. This isn't limiting it for the sake of making anything easier, it's not like the x is an integer is any easier than the x is a float. And if you *do* somehow find a good use for it down the line (and I believe there might be, maybe 0.5x) it'll be there and work. No harm. :) -- Odin Hørthe Omdal

Re: [whatwg] [JavaScript / Web ECMAScript] Dropping the “escaped reserved words” compatibility requirement

2012-07-09 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:47:46 +0200, Mathias Bynens math...@qiwi.be wrote: Has the time come to drop this compatibility requirement? Looks like a good time, if there truly has been no compat problems with doing the change Mozilla did. We'll align and try it out. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal

Re: [whatwg] frame accuracy breaking case for 25fps / status of 29.97fps

2012-07-09 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
actually? I'm not so sure if the spec is the first and best way to go to find the error(?) -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] Correcting some misconceptions about Responsive Images

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
Javascript turned off. However, you can also polyfill the simple version, but you would get two requests in some browsers if you do that. So you can optimize what you want. The only thing we're talking about -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] Correcting some misconceptions about Responsive Images

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
suggested by Odin): img src=data: srcset=foo.jpg 1x, foo2.jpg 2x style=display:none;noscriptimg src=foo.jpg/noscript It was not first suggested by me, I shopped around in the RespImg CG and on different blogs and comments and articles and picked that up somewhere along the path. I think Scott

Re: [whatwg] So if media-queries aren't for determining the media to be used what are they for?

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
, and ignore the we want pictures fast requirement. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] img srcset for responsive bitmapped content images

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
Me neither. I'm no big fan of non-valid URIs. :-) -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] picture / img srcset not needed

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
this is not a suitable solution. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] So if media-queries aren't for determining the media to be used what are they for?

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
so that it's easy to follow and read (I read email on my phone when I'm out, and I love when people write emails that work nicely on the phone). -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
content image then. Only doing pixel densities feels very limiting. A bit too limiting to be useful for the non-art directed I just want it to go fast. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] So if media-queries aren't for determining the media to be used what are they for?

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
element should always defer? It actually *has to* because it uses media queries, so in fact, picture might be a solution for model 2 in the future. But @srcset is solving the other part of the equation (model 1). -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software, http://opera.com

Re: [whatwg] Responsive images and printing/zooming

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
load the one it wants for zoom straight away. It's decideable! If a browser does something that's ugly, the users of that browser will just have to bear with it, or switch to another one (hehe ;-) ). These are not things at a user experience level, that need to be interopable. -- Odin Hørthe

Re: [whatwg] Problems with width/height descriptors in srcset

2012-05-16 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
preferable (concise, easy to read etc) and can do both - I would however prefer that it put most weight on how the image tag is mostly used on the web today. And allowing sites to mobile enable their images by adding smaller images to srcset. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (Velmont/odinho) · Core, Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] So if media-queries aren't for determining the media to be used what are they for?

2012-05-15 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
that will happen most often: for retina type displays: img src=odin-in-suit.jpg srcset=odin-in-s...@2.jpg 2x bruce-speaking-for-myself-not-Opera I'm not speaking for Opera either, but we do work for Opera, and it's hard to disclaim everything always. I hope it made sense. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (odinho

Re: [whatwg] So if media-queries aren't for determining the media to be used what are they for?

2012-05-15 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
are similar enough. Would be nice to be consistent if that makes sense. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal · odinho / Velmont · Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Implementation complexity with elements vs an attribute (responsive images)

2012-05-13 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
there, but they are orthogonal to what we're talking about here.  I think it's something worth solving, but doing it inside srcset is not where. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (odinho/Velmont), Core, Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] runat (or server) attribute

2012-05-13 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
, -- but for this use case just doing text/server-js seems rather nice :-) -- Odin Hørthe Omdal (odinho, Velmont)

Re: [whatwg] Implementation complexity with elements vs an attribute (responsive images)

2012-05-13 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
real pixels, it could opt to show dog-lo.jpg rather than dog.jpg. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal, Core, Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] Implementation complexity with elements vs an attribute (responsive images)

2012-05-13 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
Kornel Lesiński said: Odin said: Actually, for this to work, the user agent needs to know the size of the standard image. So: img src=dog.jpg width=960 srcset=d...@2.jpg 2x, dog-lo.jpg 500w So if you've got the smartphone held in portrait, it's 250 css pixels wide, and so 500 real

Re: [whatwg] [Server-Sent Events] Infinite reconnection clarification

2012-04-27 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
. Firefox: Gives up after ~15 minutes. Chromium: Doesn't ever give up. Longer and longer retry intervals, upper limit (I think) of 1 minute between each retry. And the TL version follows: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:44:56 +0200, Odin Hørthe Omdal odi...@opera.com wrote: If I understand

Re: [whatwg] [media] startOffsetTime, also add startTime?

2012-03-08 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
also build your video player to show that date on-screen, because 17:00 on the screen might be 18:13 at my place, because a) I'm in a different time zone, and b) there's 13 minutes worth of buffering between the Formula 1 production cameras and my computer. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal · Core QA

[whatwg] [media] startOffsetTime, also add startTime?

2012-03-07 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
/researchanddevelopment/2012/02/what-does-currenttime-mean-in.shtml 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/2012/01/implementing-startoffsettime-f.shtml -- Odin Hørthe Omdal · Core QA, Opera Software · http://opera.com /

Re: [whatwg] [CORS] WebKit tainting image instead of throwing error

2011-10-06 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
get the cached image directly from the browser (because it already has it, only won't show it). Obviously, if there hadn't been a crossOrigin-attribute, this would be the nice way to handle all image fetching. -- Odin Hørthe Omdal, Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] [CORS] WebKit tainting image instead of throwing error

2011-10-06 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
the crossorigin attribute at all, and just send Origin-header to all cross-origin images. But then everyone needs to do the same thing, and it would apparently also break some sites ( http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2011-June/032212.html ). -- Odin

[whatwg] [CORS] WebKit tainting image instead of throwing error

2011-10-04 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal
like that, if there are any good reasons. WebKit's method seemed most obvious to me at first, but after investigating a bit I'm not sure anymore... -- Odin Hørthe Omdal Core QA, Opera Software

Re: [whatwg] comment and ad elements

2011-09-05 Thread Odin
footerpBy Ben/p/footer /article article pBetter than butter, I say/p footerpBy Adam/p/footer /article /article Perfect is the enemy of good. Cue in xhtml2. :-) -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com English, technical: http://tech.velmont.net Norsk, personleg: http

Re: [whatwg] comment and ad elements

2011-09-04 Thread Odin
/wiki/Rationale#Failed_proposals -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com English, technical: http://tech.velmont.net Norsk, personleg: http://velmont.no

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 based Eduvid Slidecasting Demo

2011-05-22 Thread Odin
, streams, etc are less of a moving target». But WebKit may implement it, but I guess they need a test case. So I need a test case. Also heard that Microsoft is very interested to implement features that have test cases, and maybe even be first (!) because of that. -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 based Eduvid Slidecasting Demo

2011-05-22 Thread Odin
you might try to control the buffers/caches, but that's not always possible. I've tried before, and can't really get it thight enough, there's too many variables, and Icecast might not be able to tweak itself to make a really good low latency low buffering live sending. -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe

Re: [whatwg] FYI: HTML usage data from Disqus websites

2011-01-25 Thread Odin
interesting. Of course, very early, I guess you'll find very few, so maybe it isn't interesting. But, well. -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com http://velmont.no

Re: [whatwg] FYI: HTML usage data from Disqus websites

2011-01-22 Thread Odin
it will be very small, but it'd be interesting to see. And maybe someone could do trending of it after a few years. -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com http://velmont.no

Re: [whatwg] Can we deprecate alert(), confirm(), prompt() ?

2010-11-25 Thread Odin
, and tell you what? That was NOT a nice experience, I tried many different ones, none were as easy and to-the-point as just the nice prompt(). -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com http://velmont.no

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-22 Thread Odin Omdal Hørthe
very frustrating because it's so much used. So although it might not be easier from a parser perspective, it's at least easier for authors. (depending on what you use comments for, but I'd take a wild guess that most comments in WebSRT would be single-line) -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-19 Thread Odin Omdal Hørthe
? Or even send the slides (images) themselves as data-urls in the track? -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com http://velmont.no

Re: [whatwg] Live video streaming with html5.

2010-09-22 Thread Odin Omdal Hørthe
of my tool chain is Ogg-tools, and they work remarkably well and are stable. And Theora is just getting better and better ;-) Also, it doesn't need a new CPU to encode. -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com http://velmont.no

Re: [whatwg] The youtube html5 streaming issue reprise

2010-07-16 Thread Odin Omdal Hørthe
it as my single income these last months. However, it needs improving if it's to stay like that. -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com http://velmont.no

Re: [whatwg] On the subtitle format for HTML5

2010-05-23 Thread Odin Omdal Hørthe
. Anyway, as of now I'm just waiting for a way to tell my webapp what slide we're on (sync with the live streaming video). -- Beste helsing, Odin Hørthe Omdal odin.om...@gmail.com http://velmont.no

Re: [whatwg] On the subtitle format for HTML5

2010-05-23 Thread Odin Omdal Hørthe
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote: 2010/5/23 Odin Omdal Hørthe odin.om...@gmail.com: Anyway, as of now I'm just waiting for a way to tell my webapp what slide we're on (sync with the live streaming video). Can't you use the timeupdate event, get