Re: [Wicket-user] lists

2005-07-23 Thread Jonathan Locke
> database driven webapps may use primary key, but wicket needs to be > general enough to display lists that are simply any ordered collection. > the current code works, so we need to consider all aspects of lists > and listviews to make changes. we really shouldn't restrict a general > class li

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2005-07-23 Thread Igor Vaynberg
> why doesn't a List work in a ListView exactly? > I do get that a List in a PageableListView could be a bit improved so > that you have method like > getList(start,count). But in a ListView a List could work fine. If > wrapped in a Model for attach/detach Because a list is still too broad of a

Re: [Wicket-user] lists

2005-07-23 Thread Igor Vaynberg
As far as I know hibernate cannot page transparently, if it could there would be no need for the pagedlist class with black magic inside. Also, hibernate should not be the only persistence interface considered, there are plenty more in use right now that are not as advanced. I have a couple of con

[Wicket-user] lists

2005-07-23 Thread Jonathan Locke
we've had this conversation at least a couple of times. while it's possible that wicket listviews could have a better model object somehow (and then provide an adaptor for existing list-based code), we should be careful not to go crazy with features we don't really need. less is always more. w

Re: [Wicket-user] (no subject)

2005-07-23 Thread Johan Compagner
why doesn't a List work in a ListView exactly? I do get that a List in a PageableListView could be a bit improved so that you have method like getList(start,count). But in a ListView a List could work fine. If wrapped in a Model for attach/detach If we encapsulate that ListViewDataSource in a

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2005-07-23 Thread Igor Vaynberg
I don't really see how you are losing flexibility. In this particular case all we are doing is replacing the use of List interface with lets say ListViewDatasource. This is necessary because the List interface doesn't really work well with the listview. What exactly can you do more by utilizing a l

Re: [Wicket-user] on specific models, e.g. for ListView

2005-07-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Igor Vaynberg wrote: I think our previous discussion was a bit misunderstood. I was not trying to replace the imodel interface for the exact reason you mentioned below, what I was trying to replace is the model object interface which is currently a list. So instead of casting the model object to

[Wicket-user] on specific models, e.g. for ListView

2005-07-23 Thread Igor Vaynberg
I think our previous discussion was a bit misunderstood. I was not trying to replace the imodel interface for the exact reason you mentioned below, what I was trying to replace is the model object interface which is currently a list. So instead of casting the model object to a list and retrieving d

[Wicket-user] on specific models, e.g. for ListView

2005-07-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
We're thinking about how specific models (like for ListView) would look like. Would could have an interface like: public interface IListModel extends IDetachable { List getList(Component component); void setList(final Component component, List list); } And force using that in ListViews.

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: Difference between DetachableChoiceList and ChoiceList

2005-07-23 Thread Johan Compagner
there is a way The List can implement IDetachable and then detach will be called. But this is a bit hidden currently and the attach cycle must completely be programmed by the developer (on List.size() or List.get(xx) attach check must be done...) So on the developer list i just posted a question

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: Difference between DetachableChoiceList and ChoiceList

2005-07-23 Thread Phil Kulak
Yea, I was wondering why all of a sudden there's no way for me to supply a detachable list. Will that functionality be replaced? On 7/23/05, james <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Johan, > > Thanks for the clarification. > > Regards, > James > > > > ---

[Wicket-user] Re: Difference between DetachableChoiceList and ChoiceList

2005-07-23 Thread james
Hi Johan, Thanks for the clarification. Regards, James --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everythi

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Matej Knopp
Okay, will do. I plan using this in my current project, so after some testing with a more complicated application I'll provide the patch. -Matej Juergen Donnerstag wrote: Ok, I agree on this as well. Matej, are you able to provide a patch (incl. javadoc, formatting, etc.) to add it to wicket-e

Re: [Wicket-user] component ids in the html without output?

2005-07-23 Thread Erik van Oosten
It should be: listItem.setRenderBodyOnly(true); as the list items are the components that you are actually repeating / rendering. Eelco Ah yes, that works splendidly. Thanks, Erik. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy L

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Juergen Donnerstag
Ok, I agree on this as well. Matej, are you able to provide a patch (incl. javadoc, formatting, etc.) to add it to wicket-extension? Juergen On 7/23/05, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eelco Hillenius wrote: > > Juergen Donnerstag wrote: > > > >> we've discussed it already and agreed on

Re: [Wicket-user] Difference between DetachableChoiceList and ChoiceList

2005-07-23 Thread Johan Compagner
DetachableChoiceList just helps you more in the attach./detach cycle that you had to do if you want to attach/deattach youre list (if it was for example a database list) You just have to implement the onAttach and onDetach if needed (mostly only the onAttach onDetach calls clear() on youre list)

Re: [Wicket-user] what last things should be in 1.1b1?

2005-07-23 Thread Johan Compagner
beta's 1-> x can break api i personally don't care. That happens in other projects to. RC everything should be stable. But if we really need to break one or two things for b2 that we should do that. Eelco Hillenius wrote: Johan Compagner wrote: b1 doesn't have to be the last beta.. there c

[Wicket-user] Difference between DetachableChoiceList and ChoiceList

2005-07-23 Thread yongbl
Hi all,   I looked at the source code of wicket. Can anyone tell me what is the difference in usage between DetachableChoiceList and ChoiceList?   Regards, James Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 1GB free storage!

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Matej Knopp
Eelco Hillenius wrote: Juergen Donnerstag wrote: we've discussed it already and agreed on waiting for Matej to come up with a first draft to proof that the idea works, and it obviously does very well. But I guess I'm the only one, who thinks there must be a better solution. I guess the reason

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Juergen Donnerstag wrote: we've discussed it already and agreed on waiting for Matej to come up with a first draft to proof that the idea works, and it obviously does very well. But I guess I'm the only one, who thinks there must be a better solution. I guess the reason why I'm not especially k

Re: [Wicket-user] what last things should be in 1.1b1?

2005-07-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Johan Compagner wrote: b1 doesn't have to be the last beta.. there could be a b2 where we do some other stuff. Just release it so that people can play with it a bit easier. And then we will see if we release a RC or one other Beta.. Yes, agreed. We shouldn't have any more API breaks after we

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Johan Compagner
Matej Knopp wrote: Eelco Hillenius wrote: Looks nice. It doesn't break the API, right? No, it doesn't break anything. I wanted to make it as transparent as possible. Do you think this should be something that Wicket supports out-of-the-box, or something that you can use as an add-on (in whic

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Juergen Donnerstag
we've discussed it already and agreed on waiting for Matej to come up with a first draft to proof that the idea works, and it obviously does very well. But I guess I'm the only one, who thinks there must be a better solution. I guess the reason why I'm not especially keen on the idea is because it

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Matej Knopp
Eelco Hillenius wrote: Looks nice. It doesn't break the API, right? No, it doesn't break anything. I wanted to make it as transparent as possible. Do you think this should be something that Wicket supports out-of-the-box, or something that you can use as an add-on (in which case we could put i

Re: [Wicket-user] what last things should be in 1.1b1?

2005-07-23 Thread Johan Compagner
b1 doesn't have to be the last beta.. there could be a b2 where we do some other stuff. Just release it so that people can play with it a bit easier. And then we will see if we release a RC or one other Beta.. just my 2 cents. johan Eelco Hillenius wrote: We plan on releasing 1.1b1 tomorrow

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Looks nice. It doesn't break the API, right? Do you think this should be something that Wicket supports out-of-the-box, or something that you can use as an add-on (in which case we could put it in the extensions project). Eelco Matej Knopp wrote: I think the functionality is more important

[Wicket-user] what last things should be in 1.1b1?

2005-07-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
We plan on releasing 1.1b1 tomorrow (sunday gmt+1 that is). Any last things that are really important to put in there before we release it? I'm working on a component reference and when I have time want to finish the beanedit example. Will not have much time for other things I expect. What do

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Johan Compagner wrote: i also like the idea that you have one html file, X number of property files and then at load time of the markup file for a specific locale the property file for that locale is merged in to the html. And that html is stored for that locale in the cache. At least i think

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Johan Compagner
i also like the idea that you have one html file, X number of property files and then at load time of the markup file for a specific locale the property file for that locale is merged in to the html. And that html is stored for that locale in the cache. At least i think tht is the complete idea?

Re: [Wicket-user] Internationalization HTML

2005-07-23 Thread Matej Knopp
I think the functionality is more important that the actual source code. This example was supposed to be a simple one. It certainly can be implemented in a different way than I have done it. If anyone knows better place where to hook the translation please let me know. -Matej Eelco Hillenius