Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-08-09 Thread Frank Silbermann
Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/29/06: we do evangelize the OO wherever we can, but it mostly falls on deaf ears. have you ever seen a struts app? in most struts apps the notion of a class is used mostly as a namespace to group some functions together. its hard to explain something when

Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-08-09 Thread Frank Silbermann
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor VaynbergSent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:54 AMTo: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket its not only that - most frameworks are not built around OO so the developer is not required to know it/use

Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-08-09 Thread Scott Swank
Of Igor Vaynberg Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:54 AM To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket its not only that - most frameworks are not built around OO so the developer is not required to know it/use it. i think the skill is mostly lost

Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-08-09 Thread Frank Silbermann
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Swank Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:36 AM To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket We have two applications that are largely the same. However, (along with some minor variations between them

Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-07-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 7/29/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we do evangelize the OO wherever we can, but it mostly falls on deaf ears. have you ever seen a struts app? in most struts apps the notion of a class is used mostly as a namespace to group some functions together. its hard to explain something

Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-07-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I agree with you Frank. I guess when we started out 'easy' and 'less xml' etc were the things that attracted people. I was always attracted in this just OO code from the start, but I obviously missed the fact that this is what most people are into Wicket like best about the framework. We're trying

Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-07-29 Thread Igor Vaynberg
its not only that - most frameworks are not built around OO so the developer is not required to know it/use it. i think the skill is mostly lost in the webspace.-IgorOn 7/29/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we do evangelize the OO

Re: [Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-07-29 Thread Igor Vaynberg
yeah you should say that learning wicket will actually make you a better developer :)-IgorOn 7/29/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I agree with you Frank. I guess when we started out 'easy' and 'less xml' etc were the things that attracted people. I was always attractedin this just OO

[Wicket-user] Discussing Wicket

2006-07-28 Thread Frank Silbermann
It seems to me that most descriptions of Wicket that I've seen on the web focus on two properties: the absence of configuration files and the radical separation of HTML from Java code. (Then readers debate whether the absence of configuration files limit flexibility and whether the use of