Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Sam Gendler
also, this discussion did not have much to do with spring itself, but with the fact that it isnt the greatest idea to tightly couple your persistence layer with your ui layer, because that forces your business logic to live inside the ui. i am familiar with spring so that is what i chose to

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Hi Sam, I find it unfortunate that you choose another framework, but at least you are moving away from MVC :-). I really appreciate your comments on (the structure of) the documentation. If you have other comments, please provide them, as they will enable us to make Wicket the framework you

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Christian Essl
I think before writting a how-to doc it would be intresting for all what is a good-practice for setting up hibernate/spring/wicket. So I'd like to ask what is your best practice to for hibernate/spring/wicket? I currently first take basicly the same hibernate/spring setup as in

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Igor Vaynberg
Than use for all non pageable lists an OrderedRepeatingView. This is IMOthe most straight to use without much models and indirection - otherwise a DataView.dont know how useful an ordered repeating view would be for database driven lists since it doesnt refresh its children every request like

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Christian Essl
dont know how useful an ordered repeating view would be for database driven lists since it doesnt refresh its children every request like dataview, so be careful there. I have my own subclass: MyORView extends OrdereredRepeatingView{ void internalOnBeginRequest(){ removeAll();

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Whatever. I must be starting to suffer from that famous open source fatigue; I'm getting tired of that integration stuff. I'd hope there would be more emphasis on core issues. Anyway, if there's a bunch of people that agree on method x, and at least one core developer regards that as a 'best

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Igor Vaynberg
that would do it :]-IgorOn 11/21/05, Christian Essl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know how useful an ordered repeating view would be for database driven lists since it doesnt refresh its children every request like dataview, so be careful there.I have my own subclass:MyORView extends

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Christian Essl
I like it because it always saves you one model and if you just display data from the db with some links than you do need no models at all. It is also easy to make it pageable. A question: is the ItemReuseStrategy (OIR) still needed for forms and feebackpanels, because it seems also to work

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 11/21/05, Christian Essl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A question: is the ItemReuseStrategy (OIR) still needed for forms andfeebackpanels, because it seems also to work with removeAll()?really depends on what you are doing.the component handlers are called before the onbeginrequest of the page and

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-21 Thread Christian Essl
That clears it up thanks Christian On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:04:26 -0800, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/21/05, Christian Essl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A question: is the ItemReuseStrategy (OIR) still needed for forms and feebackpanels, because it seems also to work with

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-20 Thread Igor Vaynberg
wicket-contrib-data and wicket-contrib-data-hibernate do not provide any form of transaction management. furthermore, they are obsolete due to repeater package (what used to be wicket-contrib-dataview) in wicket-extensions. also, this discussion did not have much to do with spring itself, but with

Re: [Wicket-user] Re: There must be some docs somewhere?

2005-11-20 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I don't agree with wicket-contrib-data being obsolete. What happened is that I created some basic Hibernate support classes last year, and that other people commented that they didn't like them so much, and wanted to add alternatives. From there it grew into the bunch a quasi related classes it is