[Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions
Hi, i stumbled over Wicket some time ago and now have time to have a more close look on it. Therefore i have some questions. 1. I wantet to get a "Hello World app" working, however, i failed in finding out what is "really" necessary, to do it. I tried the Quickstart (Eclipse) example, but there seems many unneeded things in it, too (jetty, many docs etc), so i wondered if there is a , well basic, empty skelleton-appwith just 1 page and no gimmicks around. 2. On the wicket page i read: "an appserver is needed", however, i saw that the Quickstart itself only has jetty included and wondered why wicket needs an appserver and not only a caontainer like tomcat will do it. 3. is the Wicket Doc available as a pdf anywhere ? Reagrds and Thanks for answers, Korbinian - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions
Korbinian, So we deliver a package that contains everything you need, including documentation, and then you complain that it is not minimal? :-) A servlet container suffices, so you can do in the quickstart project: mvn package or ant war and the resulting war file (found in the target directory) can be put into your tomcat or jetty server. Quickstart contains everything you need to get started. If you'd rather start without all that help, then remove everything you don't need. Or start with qwicket (http://qwicket.sf.net). The docs are not available as a pdf. Martijn On 8/3/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i stumbled over Wicket some time ago and now have time to have a more close look on it. Therefore i have some questions. 1. I wantet to get a Hello World app working, however, i failed in finding out what is really necessary, to do it. I tried the Quickstart (Eclipse) example, but there seems many unneeded things in it, too (jetty, many docs etc), so i wondered if there is a , well basic, empty skelleton-app with just 1 page and no gimmicks around. 2. On the wicket page i read: an appserver is needed, however, i saw that the Quickstart itself only has jetty included and wondered why wicket needs an appserver and not only a caontainer like tomcat will do it. 3. is the Wicket Doc available as a pdf anywhere ? Reagrds and Thanks for answers, Korbinian - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! Embed Wicket components in your portals! -- http://wicketframework.org - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions
Hi Gwyn, thank you for your reply, Just down to the defintion of appserver - all that's needed is servlet container functionality - We tend to use Jetty as it's easy to embed in IDEs run standalone, but there's no requirement for it over any other servlet engine. ok, then it seems as the wicket-homepage is bit away of the official specification what an appserver is (these are only the big-thing with whole EE stack with them) 3. is the Wicket Doc available as a pdf anywhere ? No, while there are books on the way, the info's mainly in the 1 - Javadocs (http://wicket.sourceforge.net/apidocs/wicket/package-summary. html#package_description) 2 - Quick Tour Examples (http://wicket.sourceforge.net/Examples.html http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/) and 3 - Wiki (http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wiki) thank you for that, Regards - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions
well, i follow the definition by sun - not marketing buzz :P Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von James CookGesendet: Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 15:07An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re: [Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions On 8/3/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, then it seems as the wicket-homepage is bit away of the officialspecification what anappserver is (these are only the big-thing with whole EE stack with them) Not to pick nits, but I think maybe your understanding of 'appserver' is a bit dated. In today's day and age, Spring, Hibernate, JOTM, clustering technologies, etc. have improved the status of Tomcat, Jetty, and Resin from lowly webservers to deserve the appserver title. FWIW, most Gartner surveys include Jakarta Tomcat in the category of appserver. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions
Hi Martijn, So we deliver a package that contains everything you need, including documentation, and then you complain that it is not minimal? :-) well, these additional things were the problem for me ;) - no, seriously, because of the included jetty, docs and other jars i was a bit curious at first (only treid quickstart at first...), but now i found out what really is needed... sometimes less is better (especially for understanding sth now) A servlet container suffices, so you can do in the quickstart project: mvn package or ant war and the resulting war file (found in the target directory) can be put into your tomcat or jetty server. ok, understand that, it seems as the wiki and doc-writers prefer the word appserver over servlet-container... The docs are not available as a pdf. any plans for future ? (i prefer printable formats, as i print out and read it then :O ) Regards, Korbinian - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions
On 8/3/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, then it seems as the wicket-homepage is bit away of the officialspecification what anappserver is (these are only the big-thing with whole EE stack with them)Not to pick nits, but I think maybe your understanding of 'appserver' is a bit dated. In today's day and age, Spring, Hibernate, JOTM, clustering technologies, etc. have improved the status of Tomcat, Jetty, and Resin from lowly webservers to deserve the appserver title. FWIW, most Gartner surveys include Jakarta Tomcat in the category of appserver. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions
the reason why jetty is included is that there is a little file called Start.java. setup the project in the ide, right click Start to debug as a java application and bam you get a working servlet container setup with your app in exploded form. no need to package/deploy/blah blah -IgorOn 8/3/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i stumbled over Wicket some time ago and now have time to have a more close look on it. Therefore i have some questions. 1. I wantet to get a Hello World app working, however, i failed in finding out what is really necessary, to do it. I tried the Quickstart (Eclipse) example, but there seems many unneeded things in it, too (jetty, many docs etc), so i wondered if there is a , well basic, empty skelleton-appwith just 1 page and no gimmicks around. 2. On the wicket page i read: an appserver is needed, however, i saw that the Quickstart itself only has jetty included and wondered why wicket needs an appserver and not only a caontainer like tomcat will do it. 3. is the Wicket Doc available as a pdf anywhere ? Reagrds and Thanks for answers, Korbinian -Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of ITJoin SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
