[Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Ittay Dror
Hi,

What frameworks are suitable for automatic testing of wicket applications? I'm 
interested in functional, regression and performance tests.

Is it tricky because of wicket's on-the-fly id generation?

Thanks
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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Frank Bille
WicketTester (http://woogle.billen.dk/search/q/wickettester) is good for functional tests. FrankOn 8/2/06, 
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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Juergen Donnerstag
and we are using jWebUnit in wicket-examples for in-container tests.
Though the tests are quite simple.

Wicket-Bench (eclipse IDE) support Selenium (http://www.openqa.org/selenium/)

Performance tests: we deliver a servlet filter (either in the core or
extension project) which provides response times etc.

See wicket-examples and the information page which provides some
insight into session and memory usage.

I'm sure there are more possibilities and a kind of (may be MBean
based) console would be great. Including clearing internal caches etc.
Ideas and contributions are more than welcome.

Juergen

On 8/2/06, Frank Bille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 WicketTester
 (http://woogle.billen.dk/search/q/wickettester) is good for
 functional tests.

 Frank



 On 8/2/06, Ittay Dror [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  What frameworks are suitable for automatic testing of wicket applications?
 I'm interested in functional, regression and performance tests.
 
  Is it tricky because of wicket's on-the-fly id generation?
 
  Thanks
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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Ittay Dror
thanx, reply inline

Juergen Donnerstag wrote:
 and we are using jWebUnit in wicket-examples for in-container tests.
 Though the tests are quite simple.
 
 Wicket-Bench (eclipse IDE) support Selenium (http://www.openqa.org/selenium/)
 
 Performance tests: we deliver a servlet filter (either in the core or
 extension project) which provides response times etc.

in performance tests, i meant running test scenarios simultaneously. this is 
also for discovering threading issues.

 
 See wicket-examples and the information page which provides some
 insight into session and memory usage.
 
 I'm sure there are more possibilities and a kind of (may be MBean
 based) console would be great. Including clearing internal caches etc.
 Ideas and contributions are more than welcome.
 
 Juergen
 
 On 8/2/06, Frank Bille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 WicketTester
 (http://woogle.billen.dk/search/q/wickettester) is good for
 functional tests.

 Frank



 On 8/2/06, Ittay Dror [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 What frameworks are suitable for automatic testing of wicket applications?
 I'm interested in functional, regression and performance tests.
 Is it tricky because of wicket's on-the-fly id generation?

 Thanks
 Ittay

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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Frank Bille
On 8/2/06, Ittay Dror [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in performance tests, i meant running test scenarios simultaneously. this is also for discovering threading issues.Well JMeter has proven quite useful when we (@work) tested AJAX functionality in Wicket.
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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
jmeter, microsoft ACT (studio 2003). Google for 'an overview of load
test tools'.

Martijn

On 8/2/06, Frank Bille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 8/2/06, Ittay Dror [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  in performance tests, i meant running test scenarios simultaneously. this
 is also for discovering threading issues.
 


 Well JMeter has proven quite useful when we (@work) tested AJAX
 functionality in Wicket.

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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Joni Freeman
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:30 +0300, Ittay Dror wrote:
 Hi,
 
 What frameworks are suitable for automatic testing of wicket applications? 
 I'm interested in functional, regression and performance tests.

We use wickettester (or something similar) for unit testing the models
and listener methods. Then we use Selenium to do functional testing
using a real browser. Selenium can be used in two different ways.

1. FIT-like html tables to drive testing
2. JUnit like test cases (selenium remote control)

Our experience is that html table is good when tests are made by QA
person who can't program, but in a big project the tests done this way
get really quickly out of date. That's why we prefer to drive tests with
JUnit.

Wicket bench provides an integration to selenium
(http://www.laughingpanda.org/mediawiki/index.php/Launchers). Btw. This
is in no way tied to eclipse and allows the tests to be run from
command-line too (thus enabling to run the tests using your favorite
continuous integration tool).

 Is it tricky because of wicket's on-the-fly id generation?

A bit yes, for instance see this test (taken from
http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/thinglink/trunk/thinglink/src/test/java/org/thinglink/ui_selenium/CreateThinglinkTest.java?revision=1view=markup)

public void testCreateThinglink() {
openSelenium(createFactory());
getSelenium().type(title, My thing);
getSelenium().type(description, My thing is );

assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(bench_component_form_newLink));
getSelenium().click(save);
String text = getText();
assertTrue(text.contains(My thing));
} 

The line
assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(bench_component_form_newLink)); is 
very sensitive to the way how Wicket generates ids. For instance, our tests all 
broke when wicket started to use '_'-char as separator. We have on a roadmap to 
provide a thin wicket specific support layer on top of selenium where we could 
write the same line as:
assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(form.newLink));

For performance testing I recommend Grinder 3
(http://grinder.sourceforge.net). It is programmers performance testing
tool and does not provide any fancy gui.

Joni


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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I tried grinder, but found that jmeter recording was more to my liking
as it enables you to see the responses generated by Wicket.

Martijn

On 8/2/06, Joni Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:30 +0300, Ittay Dror wrote:
  Hi,
 
  What frameworks are suitable for automatic testing of wicket applications? 
  I'm interested in functional, regression and performance tests.

 We use wickettester (or something similar) for unit testing the models
 and listener methods. Then we use Selenium to do functional testing
 using a real browser. Selenium can be used in two different ways.

 1. FIT-like html tables to drive testing
 2. JUnit like test cases (selenium remote control)

 Our experience is that html table is good when tests are made by QA
 person who can't program, but in a big project the tests done this way
 get really quickly out of date. That's why we prefer to drive tests with
 JUnit.

 Wicket bench provides an integration to selenium
 (http://www.laughingpanda.org/mediawiki/index.php/Launchers). Btw. This
 is in no way tied to eclipse and allows the tests to be run from
 command-line too (thus enabling to run the tests using your favorite
 continuous integration tool).

  Is it tricky because of wicket's on-the-fly id generation?

 A bit yes, for instance see this test (taken from
 http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/thinglink/trunk/thinglink/src/test/java/org/thinglink/ui_selenium/CreateThinglinkTest.java?revision=1view=markup)

 public void testCreateThinglink() {
 openSelenium(createFactory());
 getSelenium().type(title, My thing);
 getSelenium().type(description, My thing is );
 
 assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(bench_component_form_newLink));
 getSelenium().click(save);
 String text = getText();
 assertTrue(text.contains(My thing));
 }

 The line
 assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(bench_component_form_newLink)); 
 is very sensitive to the way how Wicket generates ids. For instance, our 
 tests all broke when wicket started to use '_'-char as separator. We have on 
 a roadmap to provide a thin wicket specific support layer on top of selenium 
 where we could write the same line as:
 assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(form.newLink));

 For performance testing I recommend Grinder 3
 (http://grinder.sourceforge.net). It is programmers performance testing
 tool and does not provide any fancy gui.

 Joni


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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Second that. I had the best experiences with JMeter. It can be a bit
weird when you start out, but if you follow this tutorial:
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2005/jw-0711-jmeter-p2.html
you'll be up and running in no time.

Eelco


On 8/2/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried grinder, but found that jmeter recording was more to my liking
 as it enables you to see the responses generated by Wicket.

 Martijn

 On 8/2/06, Joni Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:30 +0300, Ittay Dror wrote:
   Hi,
  
   What frameworks are suitable for automatic testing of wicket 
   applications? I'm interested in functional, regression and performance 
   tests.
 
  We use wickettester (or something similar) for unit testing the models
  and listener methods. Then we use Selenium to do functional testing
  using a real browser. Selenium can be used in two different ways.
 
  1. FIT-like html tables to drive testing
  2. JUnit like test cases (selenium remote control)
 
  Our experience is that html table is good when tests are made by QA
  person who can't program, but in a big project the tests done this way
  get really quickly out of date. That's why we prefer to drive tests with
  JUnit.
 
  Wicket bench provides an integration to selenium
  (http://www.laughingpanda.org/mediawiki/index.php/Launchers). Btw. This
  is in no way tied to eclipse and allows the tests to be run from
  command-line too (thus enabling to run the tests using your favorite
  continuous integration tool).
 
   Is it tricky because of wicket's on-the-fly id generation?
 
  A bit yes, for instance see this test (taken from
  http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/thinglink/trunk/thinglink/src/test/java/org/thinglink/ui_selenium/CreateThinglinkTest.java?revision=1view=markup)
 
  public void testCreateThinglink() {
  openSelenium(createFactory());
  getSelenium().type(title, My thing);
  getSelenium().type(description, My thing is );
  
  assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(bench_component_form_newLink));
  getSelenium().click(save);
  String text = getText();
  assertTrue(text.contains(My thing));
  }
 
  The line
  assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(bench_component_form_newLink)); 
  is very sensitive to the way how Wicket generates ids. For instance, our 
  tests all broke when wicket started to use '_'-char as separator. We have 
  on a roadmap to provide a thin wicket specific support layer on top of 
  selenium where we could write the same line as:
  assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(form.newLink));
 
  For performance testing I recommend Grinder 3
  (http://grinder.sourceforge.net). It is programmers performance testing
  tool and does not provide any fancy gui.
 
  Joni
 
 
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Re: [Wicket-user] automatic testing

2006-08-02 Thread Frank Bille
And remember to use the latest version. We had problems with jmeter slaves crashing too soon (couldn't even get them to overload the server ;))On 8/2/06, Eelco Hillenius
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Second that. I had the best experiences with JMeter. It can be a bitweird when you start out, but if you follow this tutorial:http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2005/jw-0711-jmeter-p2.html
you'll be up and running in no time.EelcoOn 8/2/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried grinder, but found that jmeter recording was more to my liking
 as it enables you to see the responses generated by Wicket. Martijn On 8/2/06, Joni Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:30 +0300, Ittay Dror wrote:
   Hi, What frameworks are suitable for automatic testing of wicket applications? I'm interested in functional, regression and performance tests.   We use wickettester (or something similar) for unit testing the models
  and listener methods. Then we use Selenium to do functional testing  using a real browser. Selenium can be used in two different ways.   1. FIT-like html tables to drive testing
  2. JUnit like test cases (selenium remote control)   Our experience is that html table is good when tests are made by QA  person who can't program, but in a big project the tests done this way
  get really quickly out of date. That's why we prefer to drive tests with  JUnit.   Wicket bench provides an integration to selenium  (
http://www.laughingpanda.org/mediawiki/index.php/Launchers). Btw. This  is in no way tied to eclipse and allows the tests to be run from  command-line too (thus enabling to run the tests using your favorite
  continuous integration tool).Is it tricky because of wicket's on-the-fly id generation?   A bit yes, for instance see this test (taken from  
http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/thinglink/trunk/thinglink/src/test/java/org/thinglink/ui_selenium/CreateThinglinkTest.java?revision=1view=markup
)   public void testCreateThinglink() {  openSelenium(createFactory());  getSelenium().type(title, My thing);
  getSelenium().type(description, My thing is );  assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(bench_component_form_newLink));  getSelenium().click(save);
  String text = getText();  assertTrue(text.contains(My thing));  }   The line  assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(bench_component_form_newLink)); is very sensitive to the way how Wicket generates ids. For instance, our tests all broke when wicket started to use '_'-char as separator. We have on a roadmap to provide a thin wicket specific support layer on top of selenium where we could write the same line as:
  assertTrue(getSelenium().isElementPresent(form.newLink));   For performance testing I recommend Grinder 3  (http://grinder.sourceforge.net
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