Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-30 Thread Peter Blaha
Dear wien2k users, There is a possible (usually rather small) problem in all calculations with orbital potentials (-orb -eece) in cases without inversion symmetry and a k-mesh, which "adds" inversion symmetry. (There should be no problems with self-consistent spin-orbit calculations (-so),

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-17 Thread Peter Blaha
But mixing is switched off in case.inorb !! On 01/17/2018 09:54 AM, William Lafargue-dit-Hauret wrote: Dear Prof. Blaha and Marks, Thank you for your comments and suggestions. Looking at the SRC_orb/main.f, orb seems to read potential files to mix with old vorb files. William Le

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-17 Thread William Lafargue-dit-Hauret
Dear Prof. Blaha and Marks, Thank you for your comments and suggestions. Looking at the SRC_orb/main.f, orb seems to read potential files to mix with old vorb files. William Le 17/01/2018 à 08:03, Peter Blaha a écrit : Just a few comments: In many posts to this topic I saw the   -c 

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Peter Blaha
Just a few comments: In many posts to this topic I saw the -c switch. This is not necessary and prone to errors. Don't use -c . It will be done automatically. I think, the orb program reads case.dmat* files, and produces case.vorb* files. It is not reading vorb files. And it does

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Laurence Marks
Dear Xavier, The method you just used avoids time-reversal symmetry for -orb. My intuition is that this is right, but I don't think I ever convinced Peter of this. An alternative (that might be wrong) and avoids double counting is: Setup case.inso with NO spin-orbit on any atom, then do

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
Dear Peter and Laurence Thank you for your replies. Using the following strategy it seems to work nicely (preliminary results): runsp_lapw -eece -p -ec 0.1 -NI Then for larger EMAX and kmesh without SO we do : x lapw1 -up -c -orb x lapw1 -dn -c -orb And for the different magnetization

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread William Lafargue-dit-Hauret
Dear Profs. Blaha and Marks, Thank you for your advices. I have a question regarding your comment on the EECE case. The resulting effective potential of LDA+U and EECE corrections is decomposed in vorb files, but I don't understand why the spin-coupling file case.vorbud shouldn't appear in

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
I was not clear Peter. I clarify the way we proceed. We do runsp_lapw -eece -p -ec 0.1 -NI Then for larger EMAX and kmesh without SO we do : x lapw1 -up -c -orb x lapw1 -dn -c -orb And for the different magnetization directions we do: x lapwso -c -up -orb x lapw2 -so -up -c x lapw2 -so

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
OK we will check it. In EECE we have no case.vorbud file (empty file). Le 16/01/2018 à 16:58, Peter Blaha a écrit : Hups: If this is true, you are counting the orbital potential twice ! -orb should only be present in the lapwso step. (And in fact, the lapw1 steps need to be done just once for

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Peter Blaha
Hups: If this is true, you are counting the orbital potential twice ! -orb should only be present in the lapwso step. (And in fact, the lapw1 steps need to be done just once for the increased k-mesh; but not when changing the M-direction in case.inso) Please check the presence of case.vorbud.

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
Dear Peter You are totally correct. We are doing SO non-selfconsistent by using a standard procedure for EECE calculations: runsp_lapw -eece -p -ec 0.1 -NI and then we estimate the MAE using this non-SCF procedure : Increase EMAX in case.in1c - increase kmesh if needed x lapw1 -up

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Peter Blaha
Hallo Xavier, Looks rather strange. Eventually I would have expected problems both, in 16.1 and 17.1 (but not 14.2) due to the off-diagonal density matrices. But this should concern ONLY LDA+U, not -eece. Just to be sure: I expect you do SO non-selfconsistent, so vorbup/dn(du) files are

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Laurence Marks
Dear Xavier, One other suggestion, with a caveat. In general if the physical model is weak/wrong or there are coding errors, the convergence is poor. This has to do with what I call "noise" in the calculation (for want of a better term). Since the mixing is implicitly a Simplex derivative noise

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
Dear Laurence Here is the point. Our results show that in version 17 a problem occurs related to the time-reversal, which appears only if we do GGA+U or EECE. a) The calculations we showed are already done in P1. Indeed, I wanted to avoid any problems related to symmetry. b) we (me and my

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Laurence Marks
I may annoy Peter with the comment below, so it goes Personally I have some reservations about the consistency between the orbital potential and time-reversal operations in -so. Three possible tests: a) Reduce the symmetry to P1 and run. While this is slower, I believe your test case is

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
Here is a document showing the results graphically. https://filesender.renater.fr/?s=download=8ac3a214-edfa-4894-fa1f-27aba5a5522f It really looks like the problem we had before (using bad kmesh). We test it on two different compounds and in both cases WIEN2k_16 gives a correct picture and

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-16 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
Dear All Finally the problem is not completely solved. More precisely, when we are doing GGA+SO calculations and using a correct kmesh (no temporal symmetry), we obtain a symmetric magnetocrystalline anisotropy, namely same MAE along [0 1 0] and [0 -1 0]. In contrast, when we are doing

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-10 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
Dear Lyudmila The fact we have a small angle with axes is expected (also observed experimentally). It is related to the monoclinic symmetry of the system which permits it. However, you gave me an idea that I will test now and comment soon ;) Cheers Xavier Le 10/01/2018 à 10:40, Lyudmila a

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-10 Thread Lyudmila
Dear Xavier, Just to be sure: do you have 80 k-points in the shifted/unshifted kmesh = 5 4 4 ? You have checked the convergence on the Rkmax (6,7), did you check it on the number of k-points? I see in the FM calculation also a slightly non-symmetric curve, isn't it? Maybe the two

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-09 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
Dear Jaroslav Thank you for your quick and detailled reply. It seems to me that there is one important difference between my calculations and yours. Indeed, my calculations are done using P1 symmetry. In addition, the unit cell for FM and AFM1 magnetic orders are exactly the same. I only

Re: [Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-09 Thread Jaroslav Hamrle
Dear Xavier, your problem somewhat resembles me my problem I had when calculating magnetic linear dochroism (MLD) on bcc Fe. The similarity is that we both want to see small changes in electronic structure when rotating magnetic field direction. What help me: 1) run fine convergence

[Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy

2018-01-09 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte
Dear Colleagues I recently obtained a surprising result concerning the calculation of the magnetocrystalline anisotropy energy (MAE) of SeCuO3. This compound has a monoclinic symmetry (SG. P21/n) and is known to be antiferromagnetically ordered at low temperature. Here I provide the

[Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy energy

2010-09-22 Thread Bin Shao
Dear Pavel, Thank you for your reply? You are definitely right. In general cases, the expression of the total energy should be modified. But in a uniaxial system, especially in cubic case, the torque method is correct and we can get the MAE from the expectation value of the derviative of the

[Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy energy

2010-09-21 Thread Pavel Novak
Dear Bin Shao, we did implement the torque method in WIEN2k some years ago, but after gaining some experience we stopped using it. The problem is that the conception is not quite correct: when s-o coupling is strong and magnetization is in a general direction, spin is not along the

[Wien] Magnetocrystalline anisotropy energy

2010-09-20 Thread Bin Shao
Dear all, I intend to calculate magetocrystalline anisotropy (MCA) energy of the bcc Fe monolayer. Since the MCA energy usually has an order of magnitude about 10^-6 eV, it's a tough work to get its calculated numerical value. The reference PRB. *54*. 61 proposes a torque method and the MCA