Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-28 Thread Jane Darnell
This thread just made me realize that it hasn't been implemented yet and that what I have been using is yet another Magnus gadget, which, btw, I can highly recommend! When I search in Wikipedia, I see a subsection at the bottom which begins with Wikidata search results. It's great and I use it

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I agree when it is the only thing I said. Yes, I asked you personally and Toby ... and Erik (both of them and several times) and I always hear good idea, should be easy, we ill look into it and we get back to you. But as I said, your reply is relevant when it is the only thing I said and it

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-28 Thread Aaron Halfaker
(broke Gerard's discussion into a separate thread. See https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2014-October/003900.html ) Kerry's conceptualization of a legitimizing ideology is interesting. It doesn't seem like the ideology itself is a problem though. Quality control is

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-28 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfa...@wikimedia.org wrote: When that kind of roadblock gets put in the path of innovation, we're already ossified. That's an interesting opinion. It seems that you are suggesting that the problem is not recoverable. How do you know that is

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-27 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Hey Pine, Thanks for prod'ing the conversation. See also the discussion about Wikipedia's decreasing adaptability on the Wikimedia analytics mailing list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/2014-October/002651.html IMO, the critical piece of evidence that English Wikipedia is

[Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-27 Thread Pine W
Both of the presentations at the October Wikimedia Research Showcase were fascinating and I encourage everyone to watch them [1]. I would like to continue to discuss the themes from the showcase about Wikipedia's adaptability, viability, and diversity. Aaron's discussion about Wikipedia's ongoing

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I read your mail again. It makes me despair. Wikimedia research is NOT about Wikipedia, not exclusively. When I read what is an inspiration to you I find all the reasons why Wikipedians do not accept anything new. Why we still do not have a search that also returns information on what is NOT

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-27 Thread Aileen Oeberst
I am currently on vacation and will not be able to answer your mail before November 10. But I will get back then as soon as possible. Best regards, Aileen Oeberst ___ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-27 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Sometimes I find the history of gcc ([[GNU Compiler Collection]]) enlightening. gcc was one of the first pieces of open source software to be embedded ubiquitously, globally, in lots of very important things. By 1997 it's development had ossified and those pushing for new features forked the code

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-27 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Aileen makes a good point. But seriously though, I'm confused about what just happened. I think there are two interesting ideas being proposed here. One the examination of a theoretical argument -- that English Wikipedia is a type of system that requires *adaptive capacity* in order to survive

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia

2014-10-27 Thread Kerry Raymond
and analytics. Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research discussion: Visions for Wikipedia Hey Pine, Thanks for prod'ing the conversation. See also the discussion about Wikipedia's decreasing adaptability on the Wikimedia analytics mailing list here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail