This thread just made me realize that it hasn't been implemented yet and that what I have been using is yet another Magnus gadget, which, btw, I can highly recommend!
When I search in Wikipedia, I see a subsection at the bottom which begins with "Wikidata search results". It's great and I use it all the time to find images, articles, and other links On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote: > If it's that trivial to implement, implement it. > > That's a very compressed way of saying; I think it's fine for us to > disagree on this list. But, really? Pine's email made you "despair"? It, by > inference, made you conclude he doesn't accept new things? You find the > absence of a feature actively irrational? > > It's okay for Pine's vision to be different from yours, or mine, or > Aaron's, or anyone else's. Wikimedia's ethos is not built on any one > person's vision: it is built on the sum of all of our hopes (in an ideal > universe). It's not a one-in, one-out system where ideas must be harshly > and actively countered so that yours can take primacy. > > So let's try and stay non-hyperbolic and civil on this list, please. As a > heuristic; if even /you/ feel a need to write an apology for your email > into an email, don't hit send. > > On 27 October 2014 17:14, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hoi, >> I read your mail again. It makes me despair. >> >> Wikimedia research is NOT about Wikipedia, not exclusively. When I read >> what is an inspiration to you I find all the reasons why Wikipedians do not >> accept anything new. Why we still do not have a search that also returns >> information on what is NOT in that particular Wikipedia. It is only one >> example out of many. It is however so easy to implement, it defies logic >> that it has not happened on all Wikipedias. It is just one example that >> demonstrates that we do not even share the sum of all information that is >> available to us. >> >> ... >> >> Sorry, >> GerardM >> >> On 20 October 2014 08:23, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Both of the presentations at the October Wikimedia Research Showcase >>> were fascinating and I encourage everyone to watch them [1]. I would like >>> to continue to discuss the themes from the showcase about Wikipedia's >>> adaptability, viability, and diversity. >>> >>> Aaron's discussion about Wikipedia's ongoing internal adaptations, and >>> the slowing of those adaptations, reminded me of this statement from MIT >>> Technology Review in 2013 (and I recommend reading the whole article [2]): >>> >>> "The main source of those problems (with Wikipedia) is not mysterious. >>> The loose collective running the site today, estimated to be 90 percent >>> male, operates a crushing bureaucracy with an often abrasive atmosphere >>> that deters newcomers who might increase partipcipation in Wikipedia and >>> broaden its coverage." >>> >>> I would like to contrast that vision of Wikipedia with the vision >>> presented by User:CatherineMunro (formatting tweaks by me), which I re-read >>> when I need encouragement: >>> >>> "THIS IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA >>> One gateway >>> to the wide garden of knowledge, >>> where lies >>> The deep rock of our past, >>> in which we must delve >>> The well of our future, >>> The clear water >>> we must leave untainted >>> for those who come after us, >>> The fertile earth, >>> in which truth may grow >>> in bright places, >>> tended by many hands, >>> And the broad fall of sunshine, >>> warming our first steps >>> toward knowing >>> how much we do not know." >>> >>> How can we align ouselves less with the former vision and more with the >>> latter? [3] >>> >>> I hope that we can continue to discuss these themes on the Research >>> mailing list. Please contribute your thoughts and questions there. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Pine >>> >>> [1] youtube.com/watch?v=-We4GZbH3Iw >>> >>> [2] >>> http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/520446/the-decline-of-wikipedia/ >>> >>> [3] Lest this at first seem to be impossible, I will borrow and tweak a >>> quote from from George Bernard Shaw and later used by John F. Kennedy: >>> "Some people see things as they are and say, 'Why?' Let us dream things >>> that never were and say, 'Why not?'" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Research Analyst > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >
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