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As discussed here, there are a lot of potential options when asking a person
about their gender. However, there are only a few
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--- Comment #42 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
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As discussed here, there are a lot of potential options when asking a person
about their gender. However, there are only a few pronouns. So, how about we
ask the
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--- Comment #38 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com
2012-10-16 12:32:45 UTC ---
I do not believe this should be WONTFIXed.
The post-creation page we show is nothing but a white wall of text. The kind of
thing that people
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--- Comment #39 from Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org 2012-10-16
19:31:39 UTC ---
Sorry if I repeat some things previously said, but I don't have time to read
the massive number of comments above. My perspective, shaped by the priorities
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--- Comment #34 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2011-10-22 11:24:20 UTC
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Well, yes, it's not an axiom - most websites live without gender support and
we
lived quite happily without it for many years. And
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--- Comment #35 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com
2011-10-22 13:10:22 UTC ---
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Email preferences are needed for a very particular thing - sending and
receiving email.
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--- Comment #36 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2011-10-22 18:08:25 UTC
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And what if that first e-mail notification they get sent before anything,
before they even get to their preferences page, happens to
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--- Comment #24 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-10-19
08:26:31 UTC ---
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(In reply to comment #7)
[...] We could probably comprise and
have a Now that you have a account don't forget you can
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--- Comment #25 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2011-10-19 09:06:44 UTC
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[...] We could probably comprise and
have a Now that you have a account
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--- Comment #26 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-10-19
09:13:39 UTC ---
We already have such a message. And it's quite strong: it looks like you
can't
start editing without adjusting your preferences!
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--- Comment #27 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2011-10-19 09:31:30 UTC
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We already have such a message. And it's quite strong: it looks like
you can't
start editing without adjusting your
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--- Comment #28 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-10-19
09:35:26 UTC ---
I opened bug 31816 for improving the wording itself, which doesn't belong to
this bug.
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--- Comment #29 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-10-19
09:39:16 UTC ---
Nemo_bis:
Apparently, MoodBar is not currently shown to new accounts. I guess that it was
being tested when i created this bug. Its translation is
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--- Comment #30 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2011-10-19 09:52:25 UTC
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And yes, gender is not immediately needed for account creation, but it is
immediately needed for showing messages in correct gender,
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--- Comment #31 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-10-19
10:13:09 UTC ---
Email preferences are needed for a very particular thing - sending and
receiving email. Not all users need it, and those who do, can find a way to
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--- Comment #32 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2011-10-19 10:24:36 UTC
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Ok, so you're still ignoring my question. I guess we'll start a conversation
about every possible addition to the page and in the end it will itself be a
proof
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--- Comment #33 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-10-19
10:36:10 UTC ---
Well, yes, it's not an axiom - most websites live without gender support and we
lived quite happily without it for many years. And yes, it may well
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--- Comment #20 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-08-26
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What looks right?
(*) NeilK is a user on this wiki. Click here to visit his User Page.
( ) NeilK is
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--- Comment #14 from Ian Baker iba...@wikimedia.org 2011-08-25 18:06:03 UTC
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A quick user story to demonstrate my thoughts on gender privacy:
Asilah is a Saudi woman, editing the Arabic Wikipedia. She would prefer to
keep her gender
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--- Comment #16 from Ian Baker iba...@wikimedia.org 2011-08-25 23:50:24 UTC
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Neil, I really like this idea. It asks the right question, and it allows the
translator to include whatever language-specific nuance is appropriate.
The only
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--- Comment #18 from Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org 2011-08-26 00:23:18
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We'll have to ask the questions in all languages on all projects. Here's the
use case:
Rebecca creates an account on enwiki. English doesn't care about
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--- Comment #19 from Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org 2011-08-26 01:31:59
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We'll have to ask the questions in all languages on all projects. Here's the
use case:
Rebecca creates an account on enwiki. English doesn't care about
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--- Comment #8 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-08-19
06:12:38 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
1. Making any gender selector more visible is going to garner a certain degree
of criticism from those who don't fit the
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--- Comment #9 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-08-19
06:17:18 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #7)
I'm opposed to this idea, we want the registration screen to be as clean as
simple as possible and we already display
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--- Comment #10 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-08-19
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Just to clarify, the gender option currently provided is only to help the
software to address the person correctly. It is also public. If someone wants
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--- Comment #11 from Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com 2011-08-19 09:40:52 UTC ---
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I'm opposed to this idea, we want the registration screen to be as clean as
simple as possible and we already display messages in a gender
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--- Comment #12 from Ian Baker iba...@wikimedia.org 2011-08-19 13:55:44 UTC
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I see three separate issues here, which are at least somewhat in conflict:
1. Language personalization
2. Account creation form usability
3. Rejection of the
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--- Comment #13 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com 2011-08-19
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I don't see the need for adding checkbox to keep the gender selection private.
Genders usually differ in third person verb forms and third person
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--- Comment #3 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2011-08-18 23:49:35 UTC ---
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I'd generally keep the registration form as simple as possible. However it
makes sense to have the option shown in languages where it makes a
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--- Comment #7 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-08-19 02:16:25 UTC ---
I'm opposed to this idea, we want the registration screen to be as clean as
simple as possible and we already display messages in a gender neutral pronoun
by default
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