[Bug 20224] Nonexistent Talk:Transwiki: pages appear as broken redirects at en.wikibooks

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20224


Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 08:28:57 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #1)
 It appears the namespaceDupes.php script needs to be ran over this wiki.
 

Tried that, but apparently namespaceDupes doesn't fix this. All the pages in
question are redirects, though, and they can be moved or deleted by pageid
using the API.


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[Bug 22095] File for Wikimedia Brasil

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22095





--- Comment #2 from Sir Lestaty de Lioncourt wikimedia.lest...@gmail.com  
2010-01-17 08:59:51 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #1)
 Why do you need Google API?
 

Just for use the email service (with domain personal br.wikimedia.org)  and
others services avaliable for foundations.


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[Bug 22123] New: pictures and mathematical formula can't be displayed correctly

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22123

   Summary: pictures and mathematical formula can't be displayed
correctly
   Product: MediaWiki
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: User interface
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: zhaozhixin0...@163.com





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[Bug 22123] pictures and mathematical formula can't be displayed correctly

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22123


Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 09:10:05 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #0)
 

This bug report is empty. Please provide more information.


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[Bug 22085] A way to track all articles which makes reference to currently viewing article

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22085


Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|WONTFIX |WORKSFORME




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[Bug 22124] New: Messages broken

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22124

   Summary: Messages broken
   Product: MediaWiki extensions
   Version: any
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: major
  Priority: Normal
 Component: UsabilityInitiative
AssignedTo: tpars...@wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: dasch...@gmx.net
CC: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org


I've already tried everything but all messages are only display like
[wikieditor-toolbar-group-baseline]

example: http://www.wecowi.de/edit/1683

I deleted the whole UsabilityInitiative Directory and made ne ne checkout from
SVN

I started the maintenance-scripts:
deleteDefaultMessages.php
rebuildmessages.php
update.php

But the messages are still broken, so I think this is not my fault


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[Bug 22125] New: Please close Kazakh Wikiquote

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22125

   Summary: Please close Kazakh Wikiquote
   Product: Wikimedia
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: All
   URL: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_pro
jects/Closure_of_Kazakh_Wikiquote
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Keywords: shell
  Severity: normal
  Priority: Normal
 Component: Site requests
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: pmlinedi...@live.com


Please close http://kk.wikiquote.org/ (the Kazakh Wikiquote) per consensus at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Kazakh_Wikiquote.

Thanks, Pmlineditor


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[Bug 22126] New: HTTP PUT method

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22126

   Summary: HTTP PUT method
   Product: MediaWiki
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: General/Unknown
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: liang...@gmail.com


Can we accept PUT method to allow users to do editing in HTTP level?

For example:

PUT /w/index.php?title=Xxxaction=raw
 - edit pages
PUT /w/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePathfile=Wiki.png
 - upload (new) files


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[Bug 22127] New: Enable AbuseFilter on Russian Wikisource

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22127

   Summary: Enable AbuseFilter on Russian Wikisource
   Product: Wikimedia
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: All
   URL: http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Викитека:Фору�
�#.D0.9F.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.B4.D0.BB.D0.BE.D0.B6.D0.B5.D0.BD
.D0.B8.D0.B5
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Keywords: shell
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: Site requests
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: irm...@gmail.com


Hello!

Please enable Abuse Filter in Russian Wikisource with this settings:

All have rights abusefilter-log and abusefilter-view.

Sysops have rights abusefilter-log-detail, abusefilter-modify,
abusefilter-private, abusefilter-revert and
abusefilter-modify-restricted.

Please create groups Abusefilter-editors with rights abusefilter-modify and
abusefilter-log-detail.

Also please create flood flag with rights bot and noratelimit. 

Many thanks!


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[Bug 22128] New: New Feature request - multi-category timeline links for wikipedia articles

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22128

   Summary: New Feature request - multi-category timeline links for
wikipedia articles
   Product: Wikimedia
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Keywords: crosswiki
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: Interwiki links
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: keferr...@comcast.net


I am envisioning something that would look like a tapesty or mesh.  It would
have multipule timelines in various categories like science, music, religion,
political, with sub categories for each like Euorpean music, Italian music,
composers, instrument makers, european religions, far eastern religions, new
world religions, etc.  Each Wikipedia article would be linked to one or more
timeline(s).  When viewing the timeline it can be expanded to show the various
lines and one could move up and down the mesh to view articles relating to
events that took place in the same time frame.  When viewing a specific
composer, moving up and down through the same time frame would allow viewing
composers of the same time frame, musical styles and compostions of the same
time frame, instruments and makers, significant scientific discoveries,
political events, events in other regions of the world, etc.  In all it would
be a way to look at information in the context of historical events and compare
events in various regions of the world during the same time frame.


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[Bug 22126] HTTP PUT method

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22126


Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||WONTFIX




--- Comment #1 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 12:34:13 
UTC ---
There's API that provides much richer features and allows to do that in a much
more manageable way: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API


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[Bug 22126] HTTP PUT method

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22126


Liangent liang...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|WONTFIX |




--- Comment #2 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 12:45:12 UTC ---
Our external editor support currently exists together with API, then why not
this?

I got this idea when I was editing an image on [[commons:]] with GIMP and had
opened the image using Open Location command in GIMP but then I found it
impossible to save my change to the server directly, and I think our current
external editing implementation is ugly. This should be a replacement of the
current external editing protocol.


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[Bug 22129] New: Make commons: interwiki local

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22129

   Summary: Make commons: interwiki local
   Product: Wikimedia
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Keywords: crosswiki
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: Interwiki links
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: liang...@gmail.com


to make the following link work: [[commons:]]


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[Bug 22129] Make index.php?title=iw: work

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22129


Liangent liang...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|Interwiki links |General/Unknown
   Keywords|crosswiki   |
Product|Wikimedia   |MediaWiki
Summary|Make commons: interwiki |Make index.php?title=iw:
   |local   |work




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[Bug 22126] HTTP PUT method

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22126





--- Comment #3 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 12:52:20 
UTC ---
How is GIMP supposed to authenticate? How will it provide edit/upload
summaries? Minor edit flags? How it will handle edit conflicts? When you
realize that your way ofpage access should be able to accomplish all of that
(and lots of other things), you'll realize that you'll have to reimplement our
current API for a very little benefit, and that your GIMP will be unable to use
it anyway.


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[Bug 22129] Make index.php?title=iw: work

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22129





--- Comment #1 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 12:53:47 UTC ---
I mean a standalone interwiki prefix followed by a colon.


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[Bug 22129] Make index.php?title=iw: work

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22129


Abigor abi...@forgotten-beauty.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Abigor abi...@forgotten-beauty.com  2010-01-17 12:55:01 
UTC ---
its already in the interwiki map?

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map


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[Bug 22126] HTTP PUT method

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22126





--- Comment #4 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 12:56:27 UTC ---
Maybe not for GIMP, but I think our external editing solution is really ugly.


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[Bug 22126] HTTP PUT method

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22126


Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 12:58:57 UTC 
---
(In reply to comment #4)
 Maybe not for GIMP, but I think our external editing solution is really ugly.
 

Yes. The fact that we still support it is really ugly. External editors should
be rewritten to use the API. If the API doesn't provide all features, open bugs
to add the features. As far as I'm concerned, any sort of programmatic
interface should NOT use index.php.


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[Bug 22129] Make index.php?title=iw: work

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22129





--- Comment #3 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 13:08:42 UTC ---
The problem is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/commons: cannot do a redirect
but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/commons:Main_Page can


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[Bug 22122] MediaWiki 1.16alpha Updater doesn't check right php version

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22122


Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 13:12:04 UTC 
---
I don't know if it makes much sense to block updating, since 1.15 is equally
incompatible. It simply doesn't have the check as the bug was introduced into
php after releasing MediaWiki 1.15 release.


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[Bug 22129] Make index.php?title=iw: work

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22129





--- Comment #4 from Abigor abi...@forgotten-beauty.com  2010-01-17 13:12:08 
UTC ---
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/:commons: works

I don't think it is mend the let commons: forward to Commons.


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[Bug 22122] MediaWiki 1.16alpha Updater doesn't check right php version

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 13:14:59 
UTC ---
But at least it could be helpful if updater warned about possible problems.


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[Bug 22122] MediaWiki 1.16alpha Updater doesn't check right php version

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 13:29:18 UTC 
---
I completely agree. It should warn you.


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[Bug 22126] HTTP PUT method

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22126


Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net  2010-01-17 13:54:48 UTC ---
Agreed.

With File uploads, and full editing capabilities (and no outstanding major bugs
for the API), it's more than servicable for the functionality.

Granted, there are quite a few feature requests open, and a few bugs (non
major) open, but still.


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[Bug 22126] HTTP PUT method

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22126


Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||INVALID




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[Bug 21973] {{PROTECTIONLEVEL}} is not correct for cascade-protected pages

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21973


Matěj Grabovský mgrabov...@yahoo.com changed:

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 CC||mgrabov...@yahoo.com
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||WONTFIX




--- Comment #1 from Matěj Grabovský mgrabov...@yahoo.com  2010-01-17 14:01:07 
UTC ---
Probably the same problem as in bug 14104 thus WONTFIX.


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[Bug 22130] New: German iTunes store won't download Wikipedia Mobile

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22130

   Summary: German iTunes store won't download Wikipedia Mobile
   Product: Wikipedia Mobile
   Version: .5
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: Normal
 Component: iphone
AssignedTo: hcat...@wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: malr...@gmail.com
CC: tf...@wikimedia.org


An e-mail said that they couldn't download Wikipedia Mobile from the German app
store.  As you need an account in the store to download apps from there, I
couldn't verify this... but I'm sure someone can?


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[Bug 22095] File for Wikimedia Brasil

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22095


Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed:

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 CC||m...@nedworks.org




--- Comment #3 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 14:41:00 UTC 
---
If your goal is to host ema...@br.wikimedia.org at google you not only need
Google to accept you, but also set the MX records pointing to google mail
servers.
Perhaps the WMF could host do email hosting for you, adding @br.wikimedia.org
to their @wikimedia.org configuration.


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[Bug 22130] German iTunes store won't download Wikipedia Mobile

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22130





--- Comment #1 from Hampton Catlin hcat...@wikimedia.org  2010-01-17 14:46:25 
UTC ---
You always need an account to download from iTunes...?


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[Bug 22130] German iTunes store won't download Wikipedia Mobile

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22130





--- Comment #2 from Michael malr...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 14:48:57 UTC ---
Right, but I can't download German apps with a British account.


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[Bug 22131] New: Add a special page to simply view a file to CodeReview

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22131

   Summary: Add a special page to simply view a file to CodeReview
   Product: MediaWiki extensions
   Version: any
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: CodeReview
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: mike.lifegu...@gmail.com
CC: innocentkil...@gmail.com


Currently, CodeReview handles diffs for every commit. However, you cannot view
full files (except in the diff when added/deleted). Please add that capacity.
This would remove the need for a separate ViewVC install, and would allow
whole-file review in the same environment as per-diff review.


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[Bug 22132] New: Allow viewing arbitrary diffs in CodeReview

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22132

   Summary: Allow viewing arbitrary diffs in CodeReview
   Product: MediaWiki extensions
   Version: any
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: CodeReview
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: mike.lifegu...@gmail.com
CC: innocentkil...@gmail.com


Currently, reviewers can only see changes introduced in a single revision.
Please allow viewing of arbitrary diffs so better allow reviewers to see
relevant changes together. They don't need to be able to change states, comment
etc on these complex diffs however - just view them.


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[Bug 22095] File for Wikimedia Brasil

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22095


Mark Bergsma m...@nedworks.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||WONTFIX




--- Comment #4 from Mark Bergsma m...@nedworks.org  2010-01-17 15:13:03 UTC 
---
I'm not comfortable allowing content/services under .wikimedia.org to be hosted
by third parties - this may well have security implications and other
complications, now or in the future. If you want services like e-mail to be
hosted elsewhere, such as Google, you should register and use another domain
for it (wikimedia.br?).


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[Bug 22095] File for Wikimedia Brasil

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22095





--- Comment #5 from Sir Lestaty de Lioncourt wikimedia.lest...@gmail.com  
2010-01-17 15:23:10 UTC ---
If WMF can host mail to the Wikimedia Brazil, we will be very happy. We refer
to google, because it is a free service and at that moment Wikimedia Brazil
does not handle money. Any sugestion?


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[Bug 21027] Requests with utf-8 in the URL return a outdated page revision

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21027


Mark Bergsma m...@nedworks.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 AssignedTo|m...@nedworks.org   |wikibugs-
   ||l...@lists.wikimedia.org




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[Bug 22133] New: ?match= links are missing in vector skin (wikisource)

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22133

   Summary: ?match= links are missing in vector skin (wikisource)
   Product: MediaWiki
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: Vector Skin
AssignedTo: tpars...@wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: liang...@gmail.com





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[Bug 22133] ?match= links are missing in vector skin (wikisource)

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22133





--- Comment #1 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net  2010-01-17 15:39:00 UTC ---
Did you mean to enter a blank descriptions?


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[Bug 22095] File for Wikimedia Brasil

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22095





--- Comment #6 from Mark Bergsma m...@nedworks.org  2010-01-17 15:41:17 UTC 
---
The Wikimedia Foundation currently does not have the capacity to technically
support mail or web hosting for chapters. This would be a costly and time
consuming service to maintain, whereas this is done (at large scale) very
cheaply by many, many web hosting and mail providers. If the services that we
can provide (basic wikis on our wiki platform, OTRS, etc.) are not sufficient,
then chapters should seek their own hosting solutions. This should not cost
more than $10/month, at most.


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[Bug 22133] ?match= links are missing in vector skin (wikisource)

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22133





--- Comment #2 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 15:44:13 UTC ---
I don't know how to describe it... except for what I said in the summary
line...


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[Bug 22095] File for Wikimedia Brasil

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22095





--- Comment #7 from Sir Lestaty de Lioncourt wikimedia.lest...@gmail.com  
2010-01-17 16:03:16 UTC ---
Ok Mark, thank you for your information. Regards


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[Bug 22129] Make index.php?title=iw: work

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22129


Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex] alex.emsenhu...@bluewin.ch changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||alex.emsenhu...@bluewin.ch
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||DUPLICATE




--- Comment #6 from Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex] alex.emsenhu...@bluewin.ch  
2010-01-17 16:11:07 UTC ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 21776 ***


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[Bug 22095] File for Wikimedia Brasil

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22095





--- Comment #8 from Mark Bergsma m...@nedworks.org  2010-01-17 16:44:26 UTC 
---
Just for your information: I hear that the Swiss chapter is generally willing
to host web sites / mail for other chapters, so you may want to ask them. They
host the chapters-l mailing list as well. No guarantees, but worth a try. :)


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[Bug 21821] Please document MediaWiki:Protect-unchain-permissions

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21821


Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex] alex.emsenhu...@bluewin.ch changed:

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 CC||alex.emsenhu...@bluewin.ch
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED




--- Comment #2 from Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex] alex.emsenhu...@bluewin.ch  
2010-01-17 17:32:03 UTC ---
Done on translatewiki.net.


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[Bug 22134] New: Citations templates

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22134

   Summary: Citations templates
   Product: MediaWiki extensions
   Version: any
  Platform: All
   URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Rann
pháirt%C3%AD_anaithnid/Cite.php
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Keywords: easy
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: Cite
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: wiki...@yahoo.ie


During a discussion on citation styles at the Village Pump on the en.wiki, a
number of editors expressed a dislike for citation templates. I greatly like
them for a number of reasons (e.g. they help users unused to citing sources to
do so properly, the lend to a consistent citation style, they make data that is
naturally suitable to being machine readable comprehendible to a machine as
discrete data, etc.).

The frequent source of the dislike mentioned by others was the time it takes a
long time to transclude many such citation templates in a heavily cited page. I
suggested enhancing Cite.php to do the citation templating.

The method I suggest is as follows:

---

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.ref name=murphy /

== References ==
references
ref first=John last=Murphy title=Quisque Quis Orci Magna
publisher=Printing House Press location=London year=2009 page=55
isbn=978-3-16-148410-0 /
/references
---

The above example renders the citation as follows:

J. Murphy. Quisque Quis Orci Magna. Printing House Press: London. 2009. Page
55. ISBN: 978-3-16-148410-0

I have a working example of the code necessary to implement this in a
rudimentary manner at:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Rannpháirt%C3%AD_anaithnid/Cite.php

It does not break current usage of Cite.php.

I'd be happy to continue development on this if it was picked up.


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[Bug 22095] File for Wikimedia Brasil

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22095





--- Comment #9 from Sir Lestaty de Lioncourt wikimedia.lest...@gmail.com  
2010-01-17 18:05:10 UTC ---
Oh! Thank you again, I'll try this ;)


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22134


Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 18:22:33 UTC 
---
You are hardcoding parameters and output. It could call a template defined in
$wgAllowCiteTemplates or a MediaWiki: message.
I'm also a bit wary of the verifying chunks of code you removed.

Your work seems to be more in line with the (abandoned) citation extension. 


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22134





--- Comment #2 from Oliver Moran wiki...@yahoo.ie  2010-01-17 18:35:01 UTC ---
Re: hardcoding parameters and defining a template - indeed, its just a rough
working example. I'm not suggesting *that* as code.

The chunks of code I removed seemed to have redundancy and limited the number
of attributes to two (assumed) parameters. The new code (if I'm not mistaken)
does precisely the same thing but without hardcoding a max numbers of
attributes or assuming what those attributes must be if they are present. (I'd
suggest taking that piece into trunk regardless of opinion about templates for
citations as it would be more flexible going forward.)

I'm not aware of the citation template. What is/was it?


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22134





--- Comment #3 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 18:39:35 UTC 
---
Not template, extension:
http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Citation/Citation.php?view=markup


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22134





--- Comment #4 from Oliver Moran wiki...@yahoo.ie  2010-01-17 18:47:33 UTC ---
Thanks. Getting muddled between templates that to templates :-)


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[Bug 22135] New: template testing option

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22135

   Summary: template testing option
   Product: MediaWiki
   Version: unspecified
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: Templates
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: wiki0...@gmail.com


It would help testing of heavily used templates if there was an option that a
group of users testing the new template could turn on in their preferences, so
that the wikipedia software would check the user space specified in this option
FIRST for any template called, then look in the regular template area.  

This would ease testing of templates, in that a user could turn this option on,
and any page that was displayed would call in the test template instead of the
public template.  With this option, a group of users would not have to have a
group of dummied up examples to test - they could easily test a heavily used
template for days, and more easily find problems, because they would be easily
be able to test the template on a wide variety of existing Wikipedia pages
without changing any of those pages.

The way the software pulled in templates would only be affected for those users
with this option on.  No one else would see the tested template.  Then when the
testing group was satisfied, they would agree to have the template moved to the
main template area and they would turn off the testing option in their
preferences.

This is something that is commonly done in other systems for the same reason -
to allow a group of users to test new programs/templates.  It would be
equivalent to having certain users call in a test concatenation to test
macros in assembler language, or defining a testing path with test libraries in
front for Perl (http://perldoc.perl.org/lib.html)


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[Bug 22136] New: Add link to show only own revisions in top menu

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22136

   Summary: Add link to show only own revisions in top menu
   Product: MediaWiki extensions
   Version: any
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: Normal
 Component: CodeReview
AssignedTo: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: s...@reedyboy.net
CC: innocentkil...@gmail.com


For MediaWiki (recent comments | status changes | tags | authors | states |
release notes)

to something like

For MediaWiki (recent comments | status changes | tags | authors | states |
release notes | my commits)

Doesn't really matter how its labelled.


Easier than trying to filter through to find your own to click on from there.
Or through authors, etc


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[Bug 22135] template testing option

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22135


Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 19:13:10 UTC 
---
Not necessarily. It could be available as a fourth button Preview with my
templates.


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[Bug 22135] template testing option

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 19:11:33 
UTC ---
I don't think that this feature will be implemented. When you browse pages, you
see cached HTML, rendered on save an re-rendered on hits once in a while.
Parsing a page and rendering it is a slow process and can take up to 10
seconds. You're proposing to re-parse everything on each pageview of some
users. Not only that will make browsing speed intolerable for them, but it will
also increase server load. Your proposal will also significantly increase read
load on database because every template has to be checked for copies in
userspace.


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[Bug 22135] template testing option

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Stmrlbs wiki0...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 19:41:08 UTC ---
at this time, there is an option to disable caching in the preferences for any
user that wants to: Appearance/Advanced Options/Disable page caching. 
There is also an option for purging cache as a function tab in the User
Interface Gadgets (Add a * tab to the top of the page, which purges the
page's cache when followed.)  Since these are options available to any user
now, I don't think the cache issue should be a deciding factor to enable an
option that would ease the testing of templates.  


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[Bug 22135] template testing option

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 19:53:21 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 at this time, there is an option to disable caching in the preferences for any
 user that wants to: Appearance/Advanced Options/Disable page caching.

You misunderstand what that option means. It just disables client-side caching,
but doesn't re-parse wikitext on every page view.


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[Bug 22135] template testing option

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Stmrlbs wiki0...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 20:05:48 UTC ---
I had in mind an option in Preferences that would look like this:
(*) Template Test Mode - from (specify template test area):
[[User:Stmrlbs/xxx]] 

When the software came across a template a, if a user had this option
turned on, for this user, the software would first check if
[[User:Stmrlbs/xxx/a]] existed, and use this for the template.  If
[[User:Stmrlbs/xxx/a]] did not exist, then the wikipedia software would
then use [[Template:a]]

This would facilitate the testing of heavily used templates, because a group
project could create a group of pages calling the heavily used template in many
various ways, and call up those pages with this option turned on to test a new
template, without needing to dummy up examples. 

It would also facilitate testing changes to inner templates, because a user
would no longer need to dummy up an outer template to call the modified inner
template.




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[Bug 22133] ?match= links are missing in vector skin (wikisource)

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 20:12:01 
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I'm pretty sure these ?match= links are not generated by MediaWiki core, so
you'll need to explain what they do and what generates them. Depending on the
answer this may or may not be a problem with Vector.


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[Bug 22124] Messages broken

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--- Comment #2 from DaSch dasch...@gmx.net  2010-01-17 20:14:23 UTC ---
both in r61178


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[Bug 22135] template testing option

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--- Comment #7 from Stmrlbs wiki0...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 20:17:01 UTC ---
Platonides said Not necessarily. It could be available as a fourth button
Preview with my templates.  
Actually.. this would be better than what I'm proposing.  That way, a user
could display the page with templates in one window/tab, then display the same
page with the public template in another window/tab.  Thanks.  Good suggestion. 


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[Bug 22124] Messages broken

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--- Comment #3 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 20:21:44 
UTC ---
Have you tried disabling JS2?


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[Bug 22124] Messages broken

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--- Comment #4 from DaSch dasch...@gmx.net  2010-01-17 20:27:56 UTC ---
there is not difference between

$wgEnableJS2system = false;

and

$wgEnableJS2system = true;


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

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--- Comment #5 from Robert Rohde ro...@robertrohde.com  2010-01-17 20:58:49 
UTC ---
As I mentioned to Oliver on wiki, anything that expects to code particular
styles of referencing directly into Cite seems like a total non-starter.  The
best that one could do is teach ref to call one or more templates automatically
and that doesn't seem like much of a savings.

Since your main goal (Oliver's) is to improve standardization, the real targets
should generally be the use and consistency of templates, not Cite itself.


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[Bug 12808] Blocking and tagging from checkuser interface

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 22124] Messages broken

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--- Comment #5 from Niklas Laxström niklas.laxst...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 
21:28:23 UTC ---
Did you run rebuildLocalisationCache.php? (Bugzilla isn't a support forum
really)


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

2010-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Oliver Moran wiki...@yahoo.ie  2010-01-17 21:35:25 UTC ---
Referring to on-wiki templates is one way. Using actual ('real-life') standards
e.g. APA, Harvard, etc. is another. Or a combination mix of both.

These could either be set by default (per installation) or specified
(optionally probably), possibly in the reference tag e.g.:

references style=harvard
ref ... /
/references

(...or have this choice over-rided by user preferences, as was suggested by
another user in that discussion e.g. user wants to see references displayed in
APA style only.)

If it was to be taken in to Cite, I think the real-life standards would be
the best place to start as it would give the greatest gains over templates and
would be the most immediately usable by all MW installations.


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[Bug 22124] Messages broken

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--- Comment #6 from DaSch dasch...@gmx.net  2010-01-17 21:35:50 UTC ---
sure I not that this is not a support forum. But after I did everything I could
and it didn't change I thought it might be a bug


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

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--- Comment #7 from Robert Rohde ro...@robertrohde.com  2010-01-17 22:03:35 
UTC ---
The templates represent the community's consensus about what they want
citations to look like.  They are often originally based on standards but then
deviated because at some point in the past the community decided those changes
made them better.  There is no reason that the templates couldn't be used to
implement letter-perfect versions of essentially any real-life citation
standard if that is what the community wants.  However, first you'd have to
convince the community that they want real-life standards.  

The choice to adopt referencing standards, or not, is one for the community to
make, and should generally not be enforced directly by Cite.


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[Bug 22124] Messages broken

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--- Comment #7 from DaSch dasch...@gmx.net  2010-01-17 22:13:56 UTC ---
Running rebuildLocalisationCache.php does not help
Removing all files and checking out again does not help
Changing the encoding of the files does not help


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

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--- Comment #8 from Oliver Moran wiki...@yahoo.ie  2010-01-17 22:22:38 UTC ---
From the points of view of Cite, I don't think it should be enforced. This
suggestion may have come out of a discussion on WP but I making it purely in
parallel to that. I'm saying it would be a nice feature if cite could handle
basic citation meta data and spit it out in a standard format and style (not
just on WP but on other installations too).

If WP goes for a standard style or not is a different matter (and from what I
can see *enforcing* a standard style on WP looks like a non-starter).


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

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--- Comment #9 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 23:22:39 UTC 
---
You claim that:
 The frequent source of the dislike mentioned by others was the time it takes a
 long time to transclude many such citation templates in a heavily cited page. 
fixed by your proposal.

Why does it take a long time?

How is ref first=John last=Murphy title=Quisque Quis Orci Magna
publisher=Printing House Press location=London year=2009 page=55
isbn=978-3-16-148410-0 / better than
{{ref|first=John|last=Murphy|title=Quisque Quis Orci Magna|publisher=Printing
House Press|location=London|year=2009|page=55}} ?


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

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--- Comment #10 from Oliver Moran wiki...@yahoo.ie  2010-01-17 23:41:24 UTC 
---
The users who said that (I believe) blamed the DB overhead costs of
transcluding those templates many times. I don't believe the issue was one of
bandwidth.

(There would also be additional benefits to doing it in Cite. For example, a
user could override the installation- or the article-defined citation style
with a preferred style defined in their user preferences.)

After hinting by Robert, I've opened an on-wiki suggestion of this idea here:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Cite_modifications


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

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--- Comment #11 from Alex Z. mrzmanw...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 23:44:33 UTC ---
While I haven't actually verified this, my guess is that the cite templates are
slow due to feature bloat and over-standardization. 

The cite templates on enwiki include all sorts of extra parameters for things
like translations, summaries, multiple editors, etc. 90% of citations aren't
going to use more than a few key parameters, but the templates still have to
evaluate parser functions based on every possible option.

Additionally, almost every citation template is just a wrapper around
[[Template:Citation/core]], adding a call to the meta-template for each usage
and making the other problem worse by having even more extra parameters, many
of which aren't even exposed in the standard templates.

The sample code is going to be faster because it doesn't have nearly as many
options, so it can format the citation by just concatenating parameters and
separators, and it does it all with PHP. That could still be extended to
replicate the current citation templates, but then if a wiki wants a change to
a reference format, it would have to be done by a sysadmin.


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[Bug 22133] ?match= links are missing in vector skin (wikisource)

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--- Comment #5 from Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org  2010-01-17 
23:45:13 UTC ---
These links are generated by a local Javascript extension.
http://wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:MatchSplit.js

You will have to solve this within the community. I suggest taking it up at the
local village pump or something.


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

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--- Comment #12 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com  2010-01-17 23:50:11 UTC 
---
 The users who said that (I believe) blamed the DB overhead costs of
 transcluding those templates many times. I don't believe the issue was one of
 bandwidth.

The cost of fetching the template from db is the same. If a template is used 
several times, it is only grabbed the first one. NExt ones the content is
reused.
You shouldn't be orried about that.


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[Bug 22134] Citations templates

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--- Comment #13 from Robert Rohde ro...@robertrohde.com  2010-01-18 00:05:29 
UTC ---
Alex is correct, the lag is mostly the massive structure of Citation/core which
has over 200 #if branches (though only a fraction would be called during any
given execution).  None of it is individually bad, but taken collectively and
called more than 100 times per article and it will really add up.

As an aside, I've been contemplating extending the parser caching of pages to
allow for per-page template caching which would allow one to bypass
re-rendering these rarely changed blocks most of the time.


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[Bug 22135] template testing option

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--- Comment #8 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com  2010-01-18 03:00:07 UTC ---
Perhaps this would be something better implemented as a js gadget. ( get page
source, prefix all template calls with User:foo/ , render using api's
action=parse).


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--- Comment #9 from Stmrlbs wiki0...@gmail.com  2010-01-18 04:01:14 UTC ---
I see what Max is saying.  my bad.   


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