[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 Trijnstel trijns...@hotmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #24 from Trijnstel trijns...@hotmail.com --- I don't experience any problems anymore - it was just a few days. So I'll close this bug again and let's hope this won't happen anymore. :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 jeremyb bugzilla+org.wikime...@tuxmachine.com changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|FIXED |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #23 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to billinghurst from comment #19) RootsWeb/Ancestry went through a similar issue a week or two ago, and RootsWeb have made significant changes to mailing list reply-to addresses to manage this. Any link to more information handy? (In reply to Trijnstel from comment #20) Can someone fix this please asap? How? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #21 from Tony Thomas 01tonytho...@gmail.com --- Hello? Can someone fix this please asap? It's pretty annoying to miss everything without knowing when it will be fixed, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who uses Hotmail... In the long run, this will get fixed, once our VERP-BounceHandler extension goes live in WMF. The extension is completed (AFAIK) , and now requires little testing before we deploy in the WMF cluster. Hope things go well. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VERP https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-BounceHandler -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #22 from Tony Thomas 01tonytho...@gmail.com --- The above handling is only for Mediawiki, and not the Mailman. Thanks to Richard for notifying me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #19 from billinghurst billinghurstw...@gmail.com --- RootsWeb/Ancestry went through a similar issue a week or two ago, and RootsWeb have made significant changes to mailing list reply-to addresses to manage this. It is total BS, that well-structured and email RFC complaint mailing lists have to put up with this rubbish from lazy postmasters, and may be at the behest of lazy mail subscribers who decide that something is now spam. :-/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #20 from Trijnstel trijns...@hotmail.com --- (In reply to billinghurst from comment #19) RootsWeb/Ancestry went through a similar issue a week or two ago, and RootsWeb have made significant changes to mailing list reply-to addresses to manage this. It is total BS, that well-structured and email RFC complaint mailing lists have to put up with this rubbish from lazy postmasters, and may be at the behest of lazy mail subscribers who decide that something is now spam. :-/ Hello? Can someone fix this please asap? It's pretty annoying to miss everything without knowing when it will be fixed, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who uses Hotmail... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 Trijnstel trijns...@hotmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- --- Comment #17 from Trijnstel trijns...@hotmail.com --- And I'm experiencing the same problems again. Only a few emails came through the last few days, but I also missed a complete discussion from stewards-l. Perhaps people can contact Hotmail again? (I expect that's the cause again...) Hopefully then the problems are solved for good because this is pretty annoying. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #18 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to Trijnstel from comment #17) And I'm experiencing the same problems again. This may be because of https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/2014-07-14-Lists ; we sent in few minutes the emails of 16 hours and probably their system wasn't amused? Need to ask whitelisting again... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 jeremyb bugzilla+org.wikime...@tuxmachine.com changed: What|Removed |Added URL|\ | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 jeremyb bugzilla+org.wikime...@tuxmachine.com changed: What|Removed |Added URL||\ CC||bugzilla+org.wikimedia@tuxm ||achine.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #15 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to billinghurst from comment #14) It would be worthwhile reviewing our landing page for mailing lists, to make sure thta we have SIMPLE information for people to follow to understand what they need to do get off a mailing list. Users who consider mailing lists they subscribed to spam don't reach the landing page. Additionally, hotmail users are notoriously even less tech savvy than average, on average (obviously none of those who write or read this bug is ;) ). And the average knowledge of email functioning is very low; surveys show that usage of email by teens is going down and is now around 40 % (being replaced by walled gardens). I think everyone should just do their duty properly. Gmail has a feature which tells you hey, this email sender even tells you where you can unsubscribe [with List-Unsubscribe], are you sure they're spammers? when you click the spam button; maybe Hotmail needs something like that. And our mailing delivery system is full of actual bugs, so we should be working on those (some are found in see also)... and we are, in part. Might also be worth poking Signpost, and seeing if they can do a little article that also gives some background to the problem, and that too has a link to simple instructions. Nonsense. Such people don't even read the footers of emails they consider spam. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 Tony Thomas 01tonytho...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||01tonytho...@gmail.com See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=46640 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 Alexandros Kosiaris akosia...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #16 from Alexandros Kosiaris akosia...@wikimedia.org --- I am marking this as resolved now since this specific problem has been solved. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||billinghu...@gmail.com --- Comment #14 from billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com --- Champion! From my days at RootsWeb as listmaster, it was the case of subscribers not being able to work out how to unsubscribe, and then just calling it spam to deal with the issue. My understanding of the message from hotmail-msn is that we are not globally blacklisted, however, we won't be getting through each user's personal blacklist. Woopee. =Solutions= It would be worthwhile reviewing our landing page for mailing lists, to make sure thta we have SIMPLE information for people to follow to understand what they need to do get off a mailing list. Might also be worth poking Signpost, and seeing if they can do a little article that also gives some background to the problem, and that too has a link to simple instructions. Long-term. As we have email addresses in SUL db, having an ability to have the subscriptions to mailing lists visible in or from for each SUL login (paired on email address) would be a useful development. As we increase the numbers of mailing lists, having the one facility for a user to see their subscriptions in one place becomes increasingly important, especially for a integrated site. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 Risker risker...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Emails to Hotmail/MSN |Hotmail/MSN/Live email |addresses are bouncing |systems blocking WMF IP ||addresses, mailing list ||messages being blocked --- Comment #1 from Risker risker...@gmail.com --- It seems that the WMF IP adddress has been added to the MSN/Hotmail Junk mail block. This may require negotiation with Hotmail from the WMF end. 550 SC-004:Mail rejected by Outlook for policy reasons. A block has been placed against your IP address because we have received complaints concerning mail coming from that IP address. We recommend enrolling in our Junk Email Reporting Program (JMRP), a free program intended to help senders remove unwanted recipients from their email list. If you are not an email/network admin please contact your Email/Internet Service Provider for help. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #3 from James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org --- There is an rt ticket with some more info on this https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=7051 as well as another comment on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59731#c30 that seems related. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=59731 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #4 from James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org --- Is it possible for someone with a hotmail account to try adding the mailing list to their address book/contacts? That 'should' get around a blacklist issue if that's the problem and so might help troubleshoot. (if it is a blacklist issue it appears to only be for lists.wikimedia.org since I've received emails to my @wikimedia.org address. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #5 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- This is the counterpart of bug 56414; we could merge them and avoid mentioning specific ISP in the summary, but the dependencies for mailman and MediaWiki mailing problems are different: a different IP is being blocked so this should be unrelated to MediaWiki issues, unless Microsoft extends blocks to the IP range (do they?). Is there any setting that we have forgotten or something else that mailman should do better? Can it be some attack, e.g. people sending masses of emails with fake From: or Reply-To and hence causing masses of bounce messages to nonexisting addresses? Most likely, however, this is just about bug 59731 causing big backlogs of messages to be cleared at once, causing spikes of deliveries that ISP interpret as malicious, no? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #6 from Risker risker...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Nemo from comment #5) This is the counterpart of bug 56414; we could merge them and avoid mentioning specific ISP in the summary, but the dependencies for mailman and MediaWiki mailing problems are different: a different IP is being blocked so this should be unrelated to MediaWiki issues, unless Microsoft extends blocks to the IP range (do they?). I don't think this is the same thing. The email service provider has specifically blocked emails from one of the WMF IP addresses. It is affecting all users, whether or not they have the mailing list in their contacts. There is no delay involved, they're never getting through at all. Is there any setting that we have forgotten or something else that mailman should do better? Can it be some attack, e.g. people sending masses of emails with fake From: or Reply-To and hence causing masses of bounce messages to nonexisting addresses? Most likely, however, this is just about bug 59731 causing big backlogs of messages to be cleared at once, causing spikes of deliveries that ISP interpret as malicious, no? As noted, there are no spikes at all, the emails are not getting through at all. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #7 from Alexandros Kosiaris akosia...@wikimedia.org --- Logs indicated messages are being rejected by hotmail with reason 550 SC-004. Still unclear what was the cause of this but this page https://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx clearly states complaints have been received. We will try to contact hotmail/live and solve this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Highest CC||akosia...@wikimedia.org Severity|normal |critical --- Comment #2 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- Alexandros: Is this something you could take a look at? Or any idea who could? Confirming also for other mailing lists: SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org host mx2.hotmail.com [65.54.188.72]: 550 Unfortunately, messages from 208.80.154.4 weren't sent. We recommend that you contact your Internet service provider. The problem is that too many unwanted messages have been sent from the following IP address above. You can also refer your provider to http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fai...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #8 from Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org --- I've submitted Live's (incredibly verbose) form: https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsmsbl3ct=eformtsscrx=1 and I'm waiting to hear back. I'll keep you updated. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #9 from Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org --- I just got back this from Microsoft/Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook.com: We have completed reviewing the IP(s) you submitted. The following table contains the results of our investigation. Mitigated 208.80.154.4 Our investigation has determined that your IP(s) were blocked because too many people have reported your mail as unwanted. However, we have concluded these IP(s) qualify for mitigation. Please note that mitigating this issue does not guarantee that your email will be delivered to a user’s inbox. Mitigation may take 24 - 48 hours to replicate completely throughout our system. If you feel your issue is not yet resolved, please reply to this email and one of our support team members will contact you for further investigation. Let's keep this open and monitored for the next 48 hours. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #11 from Risker risker...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Faidon Liambotis from comment #9) I just got back this from Microsoft/Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook.com: We have completed reviewing the IP(s) you submitted. The following table contains the results of our investigation. Mitigated 208.80.154.4 Our investigation has determined that your IP(s) were blocked because too many people have reported your mail as unwanted. However, we have concluded these IP(s) qualify for mitigation. Please note that mitigating this issue does not guarantee that your email will be delivered to a user’s inbox. Mitigation may take 24 - 48 hours to replicate completely throughout our system. If you feel your issue is not yet resolved, please reply to this email and one of our support team members will contact you for further investigation. Let's keep this open and monitored for the next 48 hours. Thank you very much for the prompt attention to this. We have now received confirmation from one of the affected users that they are now receiving emails per normal. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #12 from Trijnstel trijns...@hotmail.com --- I've no idea what's done by whom, but I think it's solved since I receive the emails from the lists again. So thanks everyone for helping! /me is happy -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #10 from James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to Faidon Liambotis from comment #9) I just got back this from Microsoft/Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook.com: We have completed reviewing the IP(s) you submitted. The following table contains the results of our investigation. Mitigated 208.80.154.4 Our investigation has determined that your IP(s) were blocked because too many people have reported your mail as unwanted. However, we have concluded these IP(s) qualify for mitigation. Please note that mitigating this issue does not guarantee that your email will be delivered to a user’s inbox. Mitigation may take 24 - 48 hours to replicate completely throughout our system. If you feel your issue is not yet resolved, please reply to this email and one of our support team members will contact you for further investigation. Let's keep this open and monitored for the next 48 hours. Thanks Faidon, Do they have a definition of mitigation anywhere? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 62838] Hotmail/MSN/Live email systems blocking WMF IP addresses, mailing list messages being blocked
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62838 --- Comment #13 from Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to James Alexander from comment #10) Do they have a definition of mitigation anywhere? My understanding is that it means removal from the blacklist and we have evidence of this being the case already. I believe the no gurantees statement they make at the end refers to spam classification that happens after that and decides whether the email would reach the user's inbox or their spam folder. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
