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bawolff: ^ ?
/me does not have time to work on this right now.
(In reply to Yuvi Panda from comment #69)
Hmm, so from springle's
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bawolff: ^ ?
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Based on comment 63 and comment 64 (thanks for the analysis!) some
performance input would probably be welcome here, plus having somebody
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Based on comment 63 and comment 64 some performance input would probably be
welcome here, plus having somebody driving this, in order to allow unlucky
scripts to get more than 63
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Based on comment 63 and comment 64 (thanks for the analysis!) some performance
input would probably be welcome here, plus having somebody driving this, in
order to allow unlucky
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Greg: Do you have any input on comment 59 (what could be the process here)?
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The rev_comment field could be increased to 767 bytes without requiring changes
to the indexing for either stock Mediawiki or WMF databases. The same width
limit would apply to all of
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The result of a poll in the German Wikipedia shows that this bug is the 5th
most annoying bug:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/Technische_W%C3%BCnsche/Top_20
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--- Comment #55 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2011-04-26 19:27:59 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #54)
To clarify: one thing that is not in the default MW schema but is on the WMF
databases is an extended usertext_timestamp index on the
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--- Comment #49 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2011-04-25 21:12:39 UTC
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As a schema change touching some of the biggest and most active core tables,
it's an issue of deployment rather than coding or review.
Applying these schema
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--- Comment #50 from Domas Mituzas domas.mitu...@gmail.com 2011-04-25
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We can't have covering indexing on 1024-byte long fields (nor we can actually
have any kind of indexing on them)
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I'm also a bit leery about just upping the limit from 255 to 1024 bytes; it
doesn't solve the practical problems with the limits like
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--- Comment #52 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2011-04-25 23:28:03 UTC
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We can't have covering indexing on 1024-byte long fields (nor we can actually
have any kind of indexing on them)
Why would we want to
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--- Comment #53 from Domas Mituzas domas.mitu...@gmail.com 2011-04-25
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Why would we want to index the summaries?
To allow covering index reads for features like 'user contributions'
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--- Comment #48 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2011-04-24
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This patch has the potential for serious performance impact on Wikimedia sites,
so it needs to be discussed with someone like Tim or Brion before anyone
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--- Comment #45 from Arod Shatil arod.sha...@gmail.com 2010-04-01 11:57:15
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i believe your counting routine is most probably better than mine, but i do not
like the idea of chopping.
please note that my routine
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--- Comment #46 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-04-01
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If anyone would like to submit some actual working JavaScript, feel free to do
so at bug 22967 and I'll review it and commit if appropriate. It can be
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--- Comment #43 from Arod Shatil arod.sha...@gmail.com 2010-03-29 06:57:41
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since all we really need is 200 chars, i think 500 bytes should completely
solve the issue for all the 2-bytes-per-char languages (Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi,
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--- Comment #42 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-03-28
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as to the difference between the trunk and the toolserver: does this mean the
trunk is *behind* the toolserver or the other
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--- Comment #34 from Domas Mituzas domas.mitu...@gmail.com 2010-03-27
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we shouldn't be using tinyblob anywhere, probably either I forgot to change, or
someone changed it back :)
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--- Comment #35 from Arod Shatil arod.sha...@gmail.com 2010-03-27 13:56:28
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far be it from me to advocate blobs - i don't like them (especially the green
ones).
so, assuming we'll change it (or change it back) to varbinary, may i ask to
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--- Comment #36 from Domas Mituzas domas.mitu...@gmail.com 2010-03-27
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there are performance implications, as we can't do covering indexes on large
fields, to speed up non-PK based range views.
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there are performance implications, as we can't do covering indexes on large
fields, to speed up non-PK based range views.
but in
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we switch certain indexes (include all table fields) to covering to avoid extra
i/o for certain access patterns.
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--- Comment #39 from Arod Shatil arod.sha...@gmail.com 2010-03-27 16:23:40
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will it be able then to truncate them for indexing and yet keep the whole (200
chars) thing for storage?
this would deprive non-latin-script users from
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(i meant will it be possible, of course, not will it be able...)
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--- Comment #41 from Domas Mituzas domas.mitu...@gmail.com 2010-03-27
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it is not possible
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--- Comment #27 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-03-26
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i do not think the title of this bug is adequate. we are conflating here two
completely different issues.
one is allowing
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--- Comment #28 from Arod Shatil asha...@ezecastlesoftware.com 2010-03-26
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Simple to do, but that doesn't mean it will perform well. See comment 8 and
comment 10 by Domas Mitzuas. Comment 15
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comment 10 by Domas Mitzuas. Comment 15 outlines a possible solution, but I
haven't gotten his approval for it.
sorry, i
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--- Comment #30 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-03-26
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what does that mean? the data is *already* a blob data (it is currently
defined as tinyblob, not varchar or somesuch). and
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--- Comment #31 from Arod Shatil asha...@ezecastlesoftware.com 2010-03-26
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when you say it i just want to make sure we are talking about the same thing:
i was talking about the column [rev_comment] in table [revision]
this is
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--- Comment #32 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-03-26
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Sorry, you're right, rev_comment is tinyblob on trunk. However, it's
varbinary(255) on Wikimedia, or at least on the toolserver, and that's what's
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i did not realize that you'd need to change rc_comment also. i'll do it on my
wiki - thanks for the tip.
in this case, i would not suggest changing
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--- Comment #21 from Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com 2010-03-04 15:12:31
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Nobody is suggesting anything like 1000 Unicode characters. 200 Unicode
characters -- i.e. the same length Latin-script users get already -- would be
more
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Well, that's orthogonal to the discussion here. We want the backend for
foreign languages either way, and once we have it we can discuss how many
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Well, that's orthogonal to the discussion here. We want the backend for
foreign languages either way, and once we have it we can
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--- Comment #24 from Raimond Spekking raimond.spekk...@gmail.com 2010-03-04
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Or close this bug and open independent bugs for different languages (like Bug
22696 this)
No, not yet pls. First this
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Or close this bug and open independent bugs for different languages (like Bug
22696 this)
This makes no sense. We cannot
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--- Comment #16 from Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com 2010-03-03 14:32:35
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Either way, this scheme wouldn't increase the database size noticeably for
95%+
of revisions, since most people aren't that
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Currently when we create a new page, if nothing is entered on the edit summary
box, the first few lines of the content will be automatically displayed on the
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It's not so much the age of the software as the inefficiency of adding and
converting to larger fields in the database
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I disagree. I regularly want to use English-language summaries longer than
255
ASCII characters.
Well don't :) Long summaries
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