[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Nemo changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||64475 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Nemo changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|patch, patch-need-review|crosswiki Component|Parser |General/Unknown Product|MediaWiki |Wikimedia -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #65 from Nemo --- (In reply to Lydia Pintscher from comment #64) > This seems covered now with bug 54374 closed. Good to close? I don't think so (otherwise that bug would have been duped to this long ago I suppose?). I've posted my proposal on how to identify next steps, and requirements for this bug to be considered fixed, in http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2014-April/003698.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Lydia Pintscher changed: What|Removed |Added CC||lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.d ||e --- Comment #64 from Lydia Pintscher --- This seems covered now with bug 54374 closed. Good to close? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #63 from dacu...@gmail.com --- https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/11/update-wikisource-vision-may/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 pirsquare...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||pirsquare...@gmail.com --- Comment #62 from pirsquare...@gmail.com --- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Interproject_links_interface -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Andre Klapper changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|bugsmash| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Carl Austin Bennett changed: What|Removed |Added CC||carlb...@hotmail.com --- Comment #61 from Carl Austin Bennett --- There is [[mw:extension:RelatedSites]] in Wikivoyage which puts links to siblings in the sidebar; it's just not active on any other WMF wikis. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Kersti Nebelsiek changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kers...@gmx.de --- Comment #60 from Kersti Nebelsiek 2012-07-25 09:21:33 UTC --- Maybe Wikidata will give a solution to this problem? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#Interwikis_for_Wikisource_and_Wikiquote_for_example -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Anthere changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fdevou...@anthere.org --- Comment #59 from Anthere 2012-06-18 19:06:46 UTC --- There is no way I can decipher comment 46 but I am glad to see that this bug (feature) is still being considered :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #58 from Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin) 2012-06-18 15:20:21 UTC --- (In reply to comment #57) > Au: I'm pleased people are looking at these bugs with patches. One thing you > might look at is how long the patch has been awaiting review: this one, for > example, was written for MW 1.17; the current version is 1.20.alpha. I would like to point out that the problem here is not reviewing the patch; I can update it to trunk and submit it to gerrit right away, but the problem is deciding how exactly this feature should be implemented. See for example comment 46 and related comments. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #57 from Amgine 2012-06-18 15:12:33 UTC --- (In reply to comment #56) Au: I'm pleased people are looking at these bugs with patches. One thing you might look at is how long the patch has been awaiting review: this one, for example, was written for MW 1.17; the current version is 1.20.alpha. Thank you, and welcome to Bugzilla! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #56 from au 2012-06-18 11:09:25 UTC --- Thanks Waldir! No offense taken, and apologies for the incongruous tone -- English is definitely not my forte, and I'm still striving to improve my use of this language. :-) For context, I've only recently joined the Parsoid/VE projects as a volunteer, and this boilerplate text was sent to all parser bugs with patches attached, at the behest of Sumana, in an effort to encourage people signing up to Gerrit, and hopefully bring their patches to Parsoid where it makes sense. I've tried to triage them and respond only to bugs that seems pertinent, but as a newcomer to this community, there's bound to be some false positives as well as needless duplication. Again, my sincere apologies for the (semi-)spamming -- it won't happen again anytime soon. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #55 from Waldir 2012-06-18 10:30:22 UTC --- (In reply to comment #54) I just thought I'd let you know that your message might have come across as slightly patronizing. Robin is an experienced MediaWiki developer, but even if he wasn't, such boilerplate(-like?) messages are seldom a useful way to communicate with volunteers anyway. Please take this as constructive criticism only :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 au changed: What|Removed |Added CC||audr...@audreyt.org --- Comment #54 from au 2012-06-16 10:55:06 UTC --- Hi Robin, thank you for the patch! As you may already know, MediaWiki is currently revamping its PHP-based parser into a Node.js-based "Parsoid" component, to support the rich-text Visual Editor project: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Visual_editor Folks interested in enhancing the parser's capabilities are very much welcome to join the Parsoid project, and contribute patches in form of Git branches: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Tutorial#How_to_submit_a_patch Compared to .diff attachments in Bugzilla tickets, Git branches makes it much easier for us to review, refine and merge features. Each change set has a distinct URL generated by the "git review" tool, which can be referenced by pasting its gerrit.wikimedia.org URL as a Bugzilla comment. Please feel free to ask on irc.freenode.net #wikimedia-dev if you run into any issues with the patch process. Thank you! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #53 from TED 2012-02-28 23:08:18 UTC --- (In reply to comment #52) > I'd wait until the feature is in fact part of MediaWiki. Changing links when > it's not (yet) needed seems a bit useless. Is it ready now ? When will it be in fact part of Mediawiki ? I think that changes can be done before, to prevent misuses of the syntax. If we change the in-place-links before, users can adapt to the new in-place-links and will not be surprised by the new interproject links (when ready and part of Mediawiki), and I think this is not a bit useless. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #52 from Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin) 2012-02-28 22:55:06 UTC --- (In reply to comment #51) > Shall I make a request for bots on each wikipedia project ? Or can it be done > by a bot on all the projects ? I'd wait until the feature is in fact part of MediaWiki. Changing links when it's not (yet) needed seems a bit useless. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 TED changed: What|Removed |Added CC||desquil@orange.fr --- Comment #51 from TED 2012-02-28 22:43:17 UTC --- For the moment, both interproject links [[wikt:…]] and [[:wikt:…]] are in-place-links. But for interlanguage links, [[en:…]] is an interwiki and [[:en:…]] is an in-place-linkt. It should be easier if it was the same for the interproject links as for the interlanguage links. Does it helps if bots change all the in-place-links from [[wkt:…]] to [[:wkt:…]] (and for all the interproject links) ? Then, the [[wkt:…]] links could be used for interproject links in the left panel (like the interlanguage links). Shall I make a request for bots on each wikipedia project ? Or can it be done by a bot on all the projects ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Jan Kucera (Kozuch) changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Low |Highest CC||garba...@seznam.cz --- Comment #51 from Jan Kucera (Kozuch) 2011-12-30 15:43:55 UTC --- Because of votes rasing importance/priority according to following scheme: 15+ votes - highest 5-15 votes - high Community must have a voice within development. Regards, Kozuch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kozuch -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Tivedshambo changed: What|Removed |Added CC||tivedsha...@blueyonder.co.u ||k --- Comment #50 from Tivedshambo 2011-12-29 10:18:20 UTC --- I raised a request for this at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29&oldid=468244763#Allow_interlanguage_links_to_Commons_for_non-article_space_pages, which has gained support from two other users (so far). Optimist on the run (formerly Tivedshambo) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Patrik Ekengren changed: What|Removed |Added CC||patrikekeng...@hotmail.com --- Comment #49 from Patrik Ekengren 2011-08-08 20:27:19 UTC --- Take a look at Swedish Wikipedia, http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida, in the left panel under the heading "På andra projekt". Or an individual article: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivar_Kreuger. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #48 from Nemo_bis 2011-07-17 08:58:09 UTC --- (In reply to comment #47) > iw_local http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interwiki#Field_documentation > To see it in action: [[MeatBall:]] doesn't work ([[mw:]] neither but it's > probably an error), you surely don't want to add such links to sidebar. Uh, looks like bugzilla got smarter. I meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeatBall: , let's say [[MeatBall:Whatever]]. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #47 from Nemo_bis 2011-07-17 08:43:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #46) > (In reply to comment #40) > > This obviously covers only "local" interwikis, doesn't it? > > It covers interwikis in $wgInterProjectLinks, no matter if they are local or > global (although I'm not sure what you mean by "local"). iw_local http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interwiki#Field_documentation To see it in action: [[MeatBall:]] doesn't work ([[mw:]] neither but it's probably an error), you surely don't want to add such links to sidebar. > > What happens if there are multiple links to the same project? > They are all shown. > > > I'm not sure it's wise to show "Text" in the sidebar, it could be half a > sentence. > I thought it would be useful to specify a text other than the default project > name, e.g. [[n:Title|View news reports about this event]] > But it's easy to remove this feature from the proposed patch. Probably better. > (In reply to comment #41) > > The suggested implementation would be a disaster at Wikibooks. > If my implementation is chosen, it can be specified opt-in per-project through > $wgInterProjectLinks. That would be another bug but I'd hope this to be at most opt-out for Wikimedia wikis; in other words, we should find a solution which works for most people. More realistically, though, shouldn't the configuration be true by default in MediaWiki? You still can control it by defining which interwikis are local, if my proposal above is adopted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #46 from Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin) 2011-07-17 01:48:51 UTC --- (In reply to comment #40) > This obviously covers only "local" interwikis, doesn't it? It covers interwikis in $wgInterProjectLinks, no matter if they are local or global (although I'm not sure what you mean by "local"). > What happens if there are multiple links to the same project? They are all shown. > I'm not sure it's wise to show "Text" in the sidebar, it could be half a sentence. I thought it would be useful to specify a text other than the default project name, e.g. [[n:Title|View news reports about this event]] But it's easy to remove this feature from the proposed patch. (In reply to comment #41) > The suggested implementation would be a disaster at Wikibooks. If my implementation is chosen, it can be specified opt-in per-project through $wgInterProjectLinks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
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--- Comment #45 from Aaron Adrignola 2011-07-14
18:23:10 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #44)
> No. I know those statistics, they're only interlanguage wikilinks ("regular"
> interwikis); and anyway, they just show the total, while we'd rather need the
> number of pages with interwikis to sisterprojects, average and standard
> deviation of the number of them on those pages. This way we could see how many
> projects and how many pages on them would experience the problem you
> described.
I'll get right on that in order to prove my concern is valid.
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--- Comment #44 from Nemo_bis 2011-07-14 17:59:54 UTC
---
(In reply to comment #43)
> (In reply to comment #42)
> > Could we have some statistics on how many sisterproject
> > interwikis we have on pages?
>
> Maybe what you're looking for
No. I know those statistics, they're only interlanguage wikilinks ("regular"
interwikis); and anyway, they just show the total, while we'd rather need the
number of pages with interwikis to sisterprojects, average and standard
deviation of the number of them on those pages. This way we could see how many
projects and how many pages on them would experience the problem you described.
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #43 from Aaron Adrignola 2011-07-14 15:34:22 UTC --- (In reply to comment #42) > This doesn't apply to all languages. For instance, the same rule is quite > consistently applied on all projects in Italian since 2005-2006 AFAIK (and > it's > the same in several other languages). I agree that the problem must be > considered, though. Could we have some statistics on how many sisterproject > interwikis we have on pages? Maybe what you're looking for: Wikipedia: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesDatabaseWikiLinks.htm Wikibooks: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/EN/TablesDatabaseWikiLinks.htm Wikinews: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/TablesDatabaseWikiLinks.htm Wikiquote: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/EN/TablesDatabaseWikiLinks.htm Wikisource: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/TablesDatabaseWikiLinks.htm Wikiversity: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikiversity/EN/TablesDatabaseWikiLinks.htm Wiktionary: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/EN/TablesDatabaseWikiLinks.htm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #42 from Nemo_bis 2011-07-14 14:41:22 UTC --- (In reply to comment #41) > Interproject links are not used at Wikibooks in a one-to-one ratio with the > pages and do not match local page content to the equivalent at the other > project. The suggested implementation would be a disaster at Wikibooks. Only > Wikipedia takes the hardcore stance that "outside" links must all be in an > external links section and isolates itself from the other projects. This doesn't apply to all languages. For instance, the same rule is quite consistently applied on all projects in Italian since 2005-2006 AFAIK (and it's the same in several other languages). I agree that the problem must be considered, though. Could we have some statistics on how many sisterproject interwikis we have on pages? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Aaron Adrignola changed: What|Removed |Added CC||aaron.adrign...@gmail.com --- Comment #41 from Aaron Adrignola 2011-07-14 14:11:46 UTC --- At Wikibooks there are interproject links to Wikipedia galore. While it's true that we discourage them in order to have all content defined in-text, they are still extensively used. And there are many [[w:|Wikipedia]] links simply to link to Wikipedia. And Wikibooks is not a dictionary, so words may be linked to Wiktionary. Wikiversity was split off, so some concepts may be linked to there. Interproject links are not used at Wikibooks in a one-to-one ratio with the pages and do not match local page content to the equivalent at the other project. The suggested implementation would be a disaster at Wikibooks. Only Wikipedia takes the hardcore stance that "outside" links must all be in an external links section and isolates itself from the other projects. Unless you run a bot to replace [[w:blah|blah]] with [[:w:blah|blah]] on every page of every wiki, the sidebar links would be completely incorrect. At least the suggested implementation wouldn't make them disappear like current interlanguage links, but that's of little consolation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #40 from Nemo_bis 2011-07-14 13:56:21 UTC --- *clap clap* This obviously covers only "local" interwikis, doesn't it? (In reply to comment #39) > Links with [[prefix:Title|Text]] will show up > in the sidebar as "Text" and links with [[prefix:Title]] will show up as > "Project name". The links are still shown inline in the wikitext (so it > doesn't > break everything). Links with [[:prefix:Title]] (extra colon) are not shown in > the sidebar. What happens if there are multiple links to the same project? I'm not sure it's wise to show "Text" in the sidebar, it could be half a sentence. For both points, it's probably better to adopt the usual implementation of interproject templates, which AFAIK show only the first link to each project and show only the name of the project in the sidebar, leaving the details to the page body. In any case, this will probably require some fixing of links which will need the extra colon, which will acquire a new meaning (although consistent with its current one). This shouldn't be a disaster, though, because inline interwikis to random pages (no directly equivalent to the page they're in) are deprecated on most projects, AFAIK; probably, it would be useful to ignore interwikis in references, which could be dozens on a single page and are usually considered the right way to link whatever page on another project (like any website). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 mybugs.m...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||need-review, patch -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #39 from Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin) 2011-07-14 13:41:46 UTC --- Created attachment 8783 --> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=8783 Possible implementation of interproject links Apparently this bug is waiting for years and no-one implemented it yet (it is not that difficult). This bug has even the highest number of votes. Anyway, I made a patch that adds a configuration variable $wgInterProjectLinks with 'prefix' => 'Project name'. Links with [[prefix:Title|Text]] will show up in the sidebar as "Text" and links with [[prefix:Title]] will show up as "Project name". The links are still shown inline in the wikitext (so it doesn't break everything). Links with [[:prefix:Title]] (extra colon) are not shown in the sidebar. The position in the sidebar can be changed with * OTHERPROJECTS This patch implements it for vector and monobook. If it's OK, I can add it to the other skins as well (and possibly commit it to SVN). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Yair Rand changed: What|Removed |Added CC||yyairr...@gmail.com --- Comment #38 from Yair Rand 2011-02-21 16:11:14 UTC --- About the prefix to be used, wouldn't it be simpler to just prefix the project interwiki with the language code ([[en:wikt:Targetpage]] to add an interwiki from English Wikipedia to English Wiktionary), rather than set up new types of prefixes or breaking the colon-means-in-place-link convention? Currently a different_language_code:project_interwiki:target creates an interlanguage link that actually leads to a different project, and same_language_code:project_interwiki:target doesn't create a link at all. Note: English Wiktionary, which uses a javascript workaround for interproject links, has many entries with interproject links to other languages. If interproject links are going to be possible, they should really allow linking to other projects in other languages, too. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Krinkle changed: What|Removed |Added CC|krinklem...@gmail.com | AssignedTo|vasi...@gmail.com |wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. ||org -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 p858snake changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||bugsmash URL|bugsmash| CC||p858sn...@gmail.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Amgine changed: What|Removed |Added URL||bugsmash CC||amgine.sae...@gmail.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Nemo_bis changed: What|Removed |Added CC||federicol...@tiscali.it --- Comment #37 from Nemo_bis 2010-08-12 16:13:57 CEST --- (In reply to comment #33) > Btw I like the way this in done in English Wikipedia, where more information > about the target is given than just a project name. it.wiki's [[:it:Template:Interprogetto]] offers lots of features to add links, titles and descriptions. Way more than in en.wiki (which is quite crappy). It's used in 170,000 pages, plus every Italian language sisterproject. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 --- Comment #36 from James Sully 2009-11-17 08:48:18 UTC --- I agree, i think that this merits a spot above the language box. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Victor Vasiliev changed: What|Removed |Added CC||vasi...@gmail.com AssignedTo|wikibugs- |vasi...@gmail.com |l...@lists.wikimedia.org | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Niklas Laxström changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Highest |Normal --- Comment #35 from Niklas Laxström 2009-04-08 08:24:53 UTC --- > I have reverted the above change in priority. Unless you are a developer, don't touch them. This is not a wiki. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Jeff G. changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Low |Highest --- Comment #34 from Jeff G. 2009-04-08 04:34:45 UTC --- Niklas Laxström changed: >What|Removed |Added > >Priority|Highest |Low I have reverted the above change in priority. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 708] Interproject links
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708 Niklas Laxström changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Highest |Low --- Comment #33 from Niklas Laxström 2009-04-07 07:53:24 UTC --- Btw I like the way this in done in English Wikipedia, where more information about the target is given than just a project name. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
