Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

Hoi., Wikidata has a real bad way of considering both arguments and authority. Arguments are not considered and authority leads to a cavalier way of interpreting responsibility. It has been obvious that administrators as a whole do not ensure that Wikidata policies are maintained. So authority as

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

People may build representation in their mind, but first there is no guarantee that they all have the same representations which will lead to endless conflicts on incompatibilities. But mostly : there already is a reference interpretation. This is not high level, this is very very low level and

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

Hoi, It is even more base. It is about the understanding of the data. When people are to understand the data and have no help, they will build constructs in their mind and not consider at all any high level conceptual considerations. I do not care too much about the "conceptual heritage of the

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

More seriously maybe : I guess you mention tool because you argue that the correct interpretation of datas is given by the tools and humans. I think it's totally wrong in this case. First because it's a (very small) minimal set of requirements that Wikibase (not Wikidata) was built on, and those

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

Sorry but I hardly see how this answer could come up into current discussion. Please start another thread ;) 2016-08-14 15:14 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Markus it is very much a matter of perspective and we do not all see > things in the same way. For me the

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

Hoi, Markus it is very much a matter of perspective and we do not all see things in the same way. For me the re-usability of Wikidata is very much secondary. Important but secondary. The primary goal of Wikidata is to provide a data storage for Wikimedia projects. The problem that I see is that

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

On 12.08.2016 17:24, Jean-Luc Léger wrote: On 2016-08-11 22:29, Markus Kroetzsch wrote: On 11.08.2016 18:45, Andra Waagmeester wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Markus Kroetzsch

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

On 2016-08-11 22:29, Markus Kroetzsch wrote: > On 11.08.2016 18:45, Andra Waagmeester wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Markus Kroetzsch >> > >> wrote: >> >> >> has a statement "population: 20,086 (point in

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

A last note; listen to Markus, he is usually right. Darn!  On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:02 PM, John Erling Blad wrote: > Latest date for population isn't necessarily the preferred one, it can be > a predicted one for a short timespan. For example Statistics Norway provide > a 3

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

Latest date for population isn't necessarily the preferred one, it can be a predicted one for a short timespan. For example Statistics Norway provide a 3 month expectation in addition to the one year stats. The one year stats should be the preferred ones, the 3 month stats are kind of expected

[Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

Dear all, As you may know, statements in Wikidata can be marked as "preferred" or "deprecated" to distinguish them from the "normal" ones. I found that many items have perfectly valid historical statements marked as "deprecated". For example, our showcase item "Kleinmachnow"

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

Hi! > I would argue that this is better done by using qualifiers (e.g. start > data, end data). If a statement on the population size would be set to > preferred, but isn't monitored for quite some time, it can be difficult > to see if the "preferred" statement is still accurate, whereas a >

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

On 11.08.2016 18:45, Andra Waagmeester wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Markus Kroetzsch > wrote: has a statement "population: 20,086 (point in time: 2011)" that is confirmed by a reference. Nevertheless, the

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Markus Kroetzsch < markus.kroetz...@tu-dresden.de> wrote: > > has a statement "population: 20,086 (point in time: 2011)" that is > confirmed by a reference. Nevertheless, the statement is marked as > "deprecated". This would mean that the statement "the popluation

Re: [Wikidata] (Ab)use of "deprecated"

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Markus Kroetzsch wrote: > Dear all, > > As you may know, statements in Wikidata can be marked as "preferred" or > "deprecated" to distinguish them from the "normal" ones. > > I found that many items have perfectly valid historical