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>>! In T58602#808530, @faidon wrote:
> r174113, part of wmf10, was deployed across all Wikipedias today and had no
> effect whatsoever.
I poked at this some more and have been able to actually reduce the traffic.
See
https://lists.wikimedia.org
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>>! In T58602#808530, @faidon wrote:
> r174113, part of wmf10, was deployed across all Wikipedias today and had no
> effect whatsoever.
I poked at this some more and have been able to actually reduce the traffic.
See
https://lists.wikimedia.org
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OK, this can be done but the issue here is we can't evaluate a solution (e.g.
for performance, fitness to data, etc.) such as Titan/Gremlin if we have no
data to test it on. Meaning, assume we coded up all the queries under
assumption the data is ranked properly. But
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Write code for data that is ranked properly. But even with properly ranked data
everything needs to cope with multiple answers that are contradictory. See it
as multiple possible realities. Being able to cope with this is designed into
Wikidata and thus needs to ca
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I suppose the issue is that our templating mechanism doesn't escape such
placeholders in values when substitu
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The former. We need to give incentives to make proper use of ranks and
qualifiers. Their proper use is pretty important for 3rd party users and data
quality.
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So we have chicken-and-egg problem here. Should we code for data that is ranked
properly (but does not exist yet) and hope the data will catch up, and the
querying will be complicated until then, or should we code for current data to
make querying the current data eas
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Do not worry about the current usage of ranks. As soon as their use becomes
more meaningful though queries for example they will be used more.
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@aude we can leave it to the user but then a simple query like "give me ten
most populous countries" would be complicated as each population value would be
unfiltered multi-value which needs to be manually processed each time by
writing code to filter it. How is it so
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then index the normal-ranked statement if it exists. if there are multiple
populations that are all normal, then think you get multiple answers.
maybe if we do consider qualifiers, maybe can be somewhat smarter like see if
they have dates and pick the most current. or bet
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@aude so how we write a query for "what is the population of the USA"? None of
the population values are preferred, and if we don't consider qualifiers we
have a dozen of values which we don't know how to distinguish.
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I have deleted the slaves configuration and checked the entry in the task
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Agree to what @aude said.
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afaik, i remember think our plan for simple queries is to consider "best
statements" in queries.
see
https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/blob/master/src/Statement/BestStatementsFinder.php
for how that is determined.
this means, we inc
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Special:MergeHistory likely breaks things horribly
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@janzerebecki The issue here is that many items do not have preferred state.
I.e. take https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30.
What is the population of the USA? We don't have any number marked as
preferred. We either have to report we have no idea about US population, or
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Change 176246 merged by jenkins-bot:
Use an EntityIdFormatter for statement's properties.
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>>! In T73050#807071, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
> @aude, @hoo: reminder that this actually needs to be run on deployment iiuc
Noted on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment. A separate ticket
for that might be a good idea (as that will take a while and will need a
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Example for tracking bug for French && Wiktionary: T76447
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I still prefer the "hard" option for most suggesters we have.
Please note that such an auto-completion can be a pain in cases where free-text
values (values not in the suggesters list) are valid. This suggests this needs
to be an option or implemented in sub-classes.
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No problem came up, so we can now go ahead. As i don't have permission to
remove them from Jenkins, please do that at your convenience.
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This problem seem to not occur anymore, after the migration.
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>>! In T76373#799504, @Smalyshev wrote:
> # How to handle qualifiers? As an example, such ones as point-in-time and
> start-date/end-date. Most queries we'd do probably would be interested in
> current values, but some may need past values.
For queries not explici
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In EntityContent::getDiff(), we have:
```
$redirectDiffOps = $differ->doDiff(
$fromContent->getRedirectData(),
$toContent->getRedirectData()
);
```
As you noted, getRedirectData() returns an array representation of the
redirects, and $differ->doDiff() op
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>>! In T76373#799504, @Smalyshev wrote:
> # Right now we completely ignore references. Do we want to keep them in the
> index too?
Yes, although the other parts of statements are more important. One might query
for things that are not sourced and/or only have a sou
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We talked about this and I think the end result was that they should be treated
as two different things.
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Ok what other options do we have?
I do not want users to have to specify a separate image but reuse existing data
in the item. And the image should not be defined per language but per item.
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Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
Ok so who can decide if this table should contain only locally defined links or
also the ones from Wikidata?
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Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
Yeah they should definitely not have different defaults ;-) Let's make the
default main namespace for item for both.
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What is your preferred option, @Snaterlicious?
It seems to me the current state is fine with people and it feels right to me.
Not dead set on this though.
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