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We should expect that a naive user will want everything that Wikidata knows.
If that were true, there would be examples of uses that actually checked for "no value", which I've never seen.
To which users are you referring, out of curiosity?
I'm referring to users of
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@Lydia_Pintscher : Wikipedia articles have a name that's human-readable and when they are deleted it's clear what the article is about. That's not true for Wikidata items where the item ID doesn't tell a user what the item is about.
Additionally many items do get
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This request seems clearly related to this discussion at MT:Wikidata on en.WP. Same actor and almost-same request. ;)
However I think it doesn't make a difference for an infobox on Wikipedia. Or?
Most infoboxes on Wikipedia aren't using the naive property parser function
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@matej_suchanek: That's definitely a possibility in theory, but in practice everyone seems to assume that {{#Property}} either returns an actual value or nothing.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148357EMAIL
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Announced that we in will drop this in December 2016 (or later) in all relevant places (for example https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-October/009844.html).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146792EMAIL
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In T148357#2729069, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
However I think it doesn't make a difference for an infobox on Wikipedia. Or?
There might be an infobox field saying "no children" which makes it different from a missing value, just Wikidata-like "no value" is
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In T148357#2729025, @matej_suchanek wrote:
Do we not want to keep the difference between "no value" and "missing value"?
On Wikidata it really matters and I definitely want to keep it. However I think it doesn't make a difference for an infobox on Wikipedia.
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@mxn Thank you!
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In T99531#2726678, @Jonas wrote:
I don't think it is necessary to move the repo, but I think it would be nice to have a real machine not just FTP.
I was talking about moving this to the wikimedia misc cluster (as stated above). I think we should avoid running our own
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In T147656#2728114, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
In T147656#2727633, @Psychoslave wrote:
Will it be all interwiki links, including for Example translations section, or only mostly identical lexemes (or any other identification unit set)?
Can you show me an example of a
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The problem this task was originally about has been addressed. If there are further issues, please file new tasks for them.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103429EMAIL
hoo closed this task as a duplicate of T148025: [Task] Allow formatting of external identifiers as wiki links when using rich wikitext output.
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hoo merged a task: T147651: Wikitext output of external ids on Client should be a link, not just the plain identifier string.
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Addshore closed subtask T146879: Normalize titles to keys as "Resolved".
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Change 316790 had a related patch set uploaded (by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)):
Final wiring for the new {{#statementvalues|…}} parser function
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EDIT DETAILSThe text of error messages in the UI is too technical. We need to improve them.We need to improve them.
More patches for review:
* [x] Easier to understand timeout messages: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/316534
* [x] Specific message
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As discussed in T54843#2453105, there are three kinds of errors. It appears the first is translatable and can be moved up, replacing the generic message on top. First step should be to check if this is true, or what is needed to make the bottom message translatable.TASK
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thiemowmde changed the title from "Create mw.wikibase.entity:formatStatements for human readable access to statements" to "[Task] Create mw.wikibase.entity:formatStatementValues for human readable access to statements".
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Go with formatStatementValues. Full discussion at T142941#2728378.TASK
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Discussing the name for the new parser function. Note that it should be similar to the corresponding Lua function, see T142942.
{{#property:…}} is the existing sibling of the existing formatPropertyValues Lua function.
Suggestions:
{{#statement:…}} (singular)
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TASK DESCRIPTIONThis is about creating the necessary infrastructure required for a new parser function that outputs "rich wikitext"
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Oh, it's done already. Woo!
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In T147656#2727633, @Psychoslave wrote:
Will it be all interwiki links, including for Example translations section, or only mostly identical lexemes (or any other identification unit set)?
Can you show me an example of a translation section?TASK
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TASK DESCRIPTIONUsecase and rationale :
In french census a precise number for the precision of the counted number is officially published, without precision. But the same organism publishes a document to
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Yes this seems to be a caching issue. When purging the page it shows up.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148607EMAIL
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thiemowmde reopened subtask T141880: [Task] improve text of UI error messages as "Open".
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More patches for review:
Easier to
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Tried to purge the cache of the page? I can see the link to tawiki on the enwiki page.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148607EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Mbch331Cc: Mbch331, Info-farmer, Aklapper,
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I tend to disagree. I believe a meta tag called "description" should contain the description, unaltered. Being clever always turned out to hurt (as it does in T131013):
The snippet "Structured data about …" will be identical on all 24 million pages we have.
The label
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We've decided to go the way taken in https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/678. The approach could be changed if the better solution is proposed in the future.
WkikibaseDataModel
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