[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314360: cleanup of ontology definition file
abian added a comment. Copying here for the near or distant future: From OOPS! (OntOlogy Pitfall Scanner!) -- `P40` (critical): Namespace hijacking. It refers to reusing or referring to terms from another namespace that are not defined in such namespace. This is an undesirable situation as no information can be retrieved when looking up those undefined terms. See TripleChecker <http://graphite.ecs.soton.ac.uk/checker/?uri=https://wikiba.se/ontology-1.0.owl>. - http://creativecommons.org/ns#licence - It should be 'licen**s**e' `P11` (important): Missing domain or range in properties. Object and/or datatype properties without domain or range (or none of them) are included in the ontology. - http://wikiba.se/ontology#qualifierValue - http://wikiba.se/ontology#referenceValueNormalized - http://wikiba.se/ontology#claim - http://wikiba.se/ontology#qualifier - http://wikiba.se/ontology#qualifierValueNormalized - http://wikiba.se/ontology#statementValueNormalized - http://wikiba.se/ontology#statementValue - http://wikiba.se/ontology#badge - http://wikiba.se/ontology#statementProperty - http://wikiba.se/ontology#referenceValue - http://wikiba.se/ontology#directClaim - http://wikiba.se/ontology#novalue - http://wikiba.se/ontology#reference - http://wikiba.se/ontology#wikiGroup `P04` (minor): Creating unconnected ontology elements. Ontology elements (classes, object properties and datatype properties) are created isolated, with no relation to the rest of the ontology. Solving this pitfall may lead to new results for other pitfalls and suggestions. - http://wikiba.se/ontology#Value - http://wikiba.se/ontology#BestRank - http://wikiba.se/ontology#Reference - http://wikiba.se/ontology#Entity - http://wikiba.se/ontology#PropertyType - http://wikiba.se/ontology#GeoAutoPrecision - http://wikiba.se/ontology#Dump File: F35538142: ontology-1.0.owl <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F35538142> TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T314360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: HasanAkgun_WMDE, abian Cc: abian, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Michael, danshick-wmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Jainitbafna, Jersione, Hellket777, LisafBia6531, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, Gaurav24072002, Abhinay76, GFontenelle_WMF, Annysah01, Rohitgeddam, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Soda, Chaytanya, JorisDarlingtonQuarshie, Hook696, wiki-helenatxu, Kent7301, joker88john, Dinadineke, DannyS712, CucyNoiD, Klein, Nandana, JKSTNK, Tks4Fish, Gaboe420, Mh-3110, Giuliamocci, tabish.shaikh91, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, Mahir256, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, merbst, LawExplorer, Samuele2002, Salgo60, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Silverfish, _jensen, rosalieper, xSavitar, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, mb, MuhammadShuaib, Susannaanas, Tmalhotra, Fuzheado, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Daniel_Mietchen, Ebe123, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Raymond, TheDJ, Steinsplitter, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314360: cleanup of ontology definition file
abian added a comment. You may want to check https://oops.linkeddata.es. It won't tell you about all the possible issues, but it will give you an idea of some (so-called) common pitfalls that still need to be resolved. By doing so you may also be solving T210337 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210337>. 0:-) You can visualize the result at http://vowl.visualdataweb.org/webvowl-old/webvowl-old.html#iri=http://wikiba.se/ontology-1.0.owl. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T314360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: HasanAkgun_WMDE, abian Cc: abian, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Michael, danshick-wmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Jainitbafna, Jersione, Hellket777, LisafBia6531, Astuthiodit_1, 786, Biggs657, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, Gaurav24072002, Abhinay76, GFontenelle_WMF, Annysah01, Rohitgeddam, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, Juan90264, Alter-paule, Beast1978, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Un1tY, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Soda, Chaytanya, JorisDarlingtonQuarshie, Hook696, wiki-helenatxu, Kent7301, joker88john, Dinadineke, DannyS712, CucyNoiD, Klein, Nandana, JKSTNK, Tks4Fish, Gaboe420, Mh-3110, Giuliamocci, tabish.shaikh91, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, Mahir256, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, merbst, LawExplorer, Samuele2002, Salgo60, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Silverfish, _jensen, rosalieper, xSavitar, Neuronton, Scott_WUaS, mb, MuhammadShuaib, Susannaanas, Tmalhotra, Fuzheado, SimmeD, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Daniel_Mietchen, Ebe123, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Raymond, TheDJ, Steinsplitter, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314083: Special:NewLexemeAlpha's example can be confusing
abian updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T314083 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T314083: Special:NewLexemeAlpha's example can be confusing
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata Lexicographical data, Special:NewLexeme revival, Wikidata. TASK DESCRIPTION In Special:NewLexemeAlpha's example, I find it confusing that the language code (en) and the language (English) are on different lines. 'cat' (L7) is a quite complete Lexeme about a nice entity, but also a very short word that looks like a language code, which doesn't help solve the confusion. F35353359: example-newlexemealpha.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F35353359> Something similar happens when applying uselang=fr (or other language codes): F35353598: ama.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F35353598> **Suggestions**: swap the "Language" and "Lexical category" lines; rethink the layout; use a Lexeme on a word widely recognized as such but with more characters TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T314083 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T274687: Links is not localizable in Wikidata sidebar
abian added a comment. More or less the same: T273370 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273370> (with subtasks T273368 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273368> and T273369 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273369>) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274687 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Amire80, Lydia_Pintscher, matej_suchanek, YFdyh000, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, Prufkick, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, Universal_Omega, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T297528: incorrect SPARQL queries when several quantity-based conditions are defined
abian added a project: Wikidata. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T297528 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, abian, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T236295: integrate exceptions as part of Wikibase datamodel of the entity concerned
abian added a comment. For me, constraints should constrain (unless they have the level of suggestion defined), and exceptions should be exceptional. Those cases where the number of exceptions ends up skyrocketing are cases where either the constraints were conceived trying to generalize too small, specific and biased a set of cases, or there's a broader underlying problem of knowledge representation that is difficult to address and users choose to add exceptions to ignore it. The first reason for this task ("Currently the way to store exceptions is not scalable") is an effect of these problems, and I think we should solve them instead of thinking of a way to add even more exceptions. The Property that motivates this task (`P225`) is also mentioned at Wikidata:2020_report_on_Property_constraints#Exceptions <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:2020_report_on_Property_constraints#Exceptions> in the context of some of the problems caused by exceptions; see also T244045 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244045>. Property constraints are part of the intensional <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensional_and_intensional_definitions> definition of each Property, and their usefulness lies in the fact that we can check their consistency with an enumerative definition, of which all uses of the Property are automatically part. A finite list of current exceptions override this automatic enumerative definition, but it does so alongside, or with reference to, the intensional definition, which applies to a generally infinite number of possible present and future entities. Ideally, the intensional definition should never refer to the enumeration or vice versa, and in the case of Wikidata it's worse because these references are not controlled: as exceptions are implemented now, I can delete a constrained statement and still have the Item listed as an exception; and, as proposed to be implemented in this task, I could delete a constraint and still have exceptions to it. For when there are many exceptions I would suggest either using the suggestion level or using mechanisms other than standard Property constraints; luckily, today there are many ways to check compliance with complex rules that don't involve the Property constraint system. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236295 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, ChristianKl, Esc3300, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Aklapper, Bugreporter, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T195178: Label in language constraint type
abian added a comment. š TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195178 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Esc3300, abian, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Multichill, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T195178: Label in language constraint type
abian added a comment. In T195178#7123731 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195178#7123731>, @Multichill wrote: > Not sure about what your intentions are with these questions. I'll just assume good faith Hey. Of course there's no bad intention; I don't know why I should have bad intentions towards you, you've never harmed me or my family (because you haven't... have you? š ). In T195178#7122976 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195178#7122976>, @abian wrote: > My devil's advocate questions: > > - I assume that the main purpose of all constraint types is to inform editors of mistakes or suggestions that would otherwise not be obvious. I also assume that all Items should have both labels and descriptions in virtually all supported languages. Why should users be told that the lack of a label in one language is a mistake and shouldn't be told the same about a label in another language that is more relevant (e.g. more demanded by Wikipedia) or more familiar to the user? > - Would it be expected that users who didn't previously fill in labels would switch to filling them in as a result of these violations? Or would these violations be ignored and contribute to all constraint types being ignored more? > - Might labels that were not suggested by these constraints be more neglected? I usually leave these kinds of questions on Phabricator to try to assess in advance possible problems I can think of that might (or might not) arise after the possible implementation. The questions aren't ironic, I really don't know the answers but I do think they're relevant. There are a couple of dozen constraint types considered or proposed for implementation, so the first question would serve to justify why this constraint type would be particularly helpful; the second question is related to the problem of habituation to warnings <https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3025453.3025896>, which is already occurring on Wikidata and we know both indirect figures <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:2020_report_on_Property_constraints#Knowledge,_perception_and_ease_of_use> and individual users who routinely ignore these warnings, but this problem will evolve and new warnings could make it worse or better; and the third would be another question to think about whether the overall balance of obeying the warnings would be positive for Wikidata (re)users or not. Of course I don't have these answers nor a special interest that this constraint type isn't implemented... until you harm me or my family, in which case I won't hesitate to add a dislike token to this very task. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195178 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Esc3300, abian, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Multichill, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T195178: Label in language constraint type
abian added a comment. My devil's advocate questions: - I assume that the main purpose of all constraint types is to inform editors of mistakes or suggestions that would otherwise not be obvious. I also assume that all Items should have both labels and descriptions in virtually all supported languages. Why should users be told that the lack of a label in one language is a mistake and shouldn't be told the same about a label in another language that is more relevant (e.g. more demanded by Wikipedia) or more familiar to the user? - Would it be expected that users who didn't previously fill in labels would switch to filling them in as a result of these violations? Or would these violations be ignored and contribute to all constraint types being ignored more? - Might labels that were not suggested by these constraints be more neglected? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195178 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Multichill, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264535: duplicated lines in all Wikidata entities with statements in LD formats
abian assigned this task to hoo. abian closed this task as "Resolved". abian added a comment. You fixed it. \o/ TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264535 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: hoo, abian Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, abian, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264535: duplicated lines in all Wikidata entities with statements in LD formats
abian added a comment. In T264535#7048342 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264535#7048342>, @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote: > Is this problematic for any particular reason? As far as I understand, itās generally acceptable to repeat triples in RDF (they just have no effect). > > (We can still fix this, of course, Iām just curious if itās more important for some reason Iām not aware of.) I don't know, I guess not, apart from the extra bytes stored, transmitted, processed, etc. Perhaps certain applications also display this information (or the result of processing it) twice. (?) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264535 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, abian, Invadibot, Lalamarie69, maantietaja, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264535: duplicated lines in all Wikidata entities with statements in LD formats
abian added a subscriber: Lydia_Pintscher. abian added a comment. @Lydia_Pintscher, do you know to which project/team this task would belong? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264535 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, abian, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T280191: Prevent simultaneous executions of the same query with the Query Builder
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata Query Builder, Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** Whereas https://query.wikidata.org/ disables the execution button while a query is running, https://query-builder-test.toolforge.org/ allows the user to launch any number of executions of the same query with no waiting time between launches (until the server ends up returning a low-level error for exceeding the allowed rate of requests). This practice cannot help users to satisfy their demands more quickly or better; in fact, it delays the time at which users will see the results, apart from causing a waste of resources. F34394966: Run query.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34394966> **Acceptance criteria:** - It is not possible to launch a new execution until the current one has finished. - Alternatively, it is not possible to launch a new execution of the same query within a number of seconds from the start of the current execution. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T280191 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, abian, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T280158: Date input should indicate the system interpretation of valid 4-digit dates
abian added a comment. Yeah, we could make the UI explicitly state "CE" for all those dates of the Common Era with one- or two-digit years, in line with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BCEā¦ > One- and two-digit years may look more natural with an era marker (born in 2 AD or born January 15, 22 CE, not born in 2 nor January 15, 22). This might solve a number of potential confusions. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T280158 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Sarai-WMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values
abian added a comment. According to the UI, you can retrieve people born before (or after), for example, 31 January (birthday), but what you get has nothing to do with that. I believe there are quite a few other problematic use cases (which is understandable, this is a challenging task!). F34374151: 31-1.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34374151> https://w-beta.wmflabs.org/Ho https://w.wiki/3BVR TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272697 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: amy_rc, abian Cc: Michael, Sarai-WMDE, abian, Charlie_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, amy_rc, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279044: Publishing Mastodon addresses is very hard
abian closed this task as "Resolved". abian claimed this task. abian added a comment. It should be fixed with this <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/history/42/diff/prev/1347>. Please feel free to reopen this task if you continue to have problems. Thanks! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279044 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Lydia_Pintscher, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, selfisekai, Aklapper, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T276876: Create condition for properties to declare inverse relationship properties that will be automatically assigned to the inverse item
abian added a comment. Note that this could be done with inverse constraints (Q21510855 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21510855>) using the "mandatory" severity level. See the help page about this constraint type <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Inverse> and an explanation on severity levels <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:2020_report_on_Property_constraints#Severity_levels>. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T276876 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, MavropaliasG, maantietaja, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T273113: Wikidata pages don't seem to show up on Google and Bing Search results
abian added a comment. See also T200846#4487680 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200846#4487680>. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273113 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, dr0ptp4kt, Mmarx, Pigsonthewing, Lydia_Pintscher, DanBri, DVrandecic, Aklapper, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values
abian added a comment. In T272697#6875288 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272697#6875288>, @Sarai-WMDE wrote: > Hey, @abian. Those are very valid and concerns, and we really appreciate you sharing them! We are aware that unfortunately some current issues will also be reproduced by the new application (e.g. querying for a specific date like 01-01-2021 will result in false positives, since 2021 with precision year will also be retrieved). In the context of the Query Builder, users will only be able to enter specific dates, and precision will be interpreted based on their input (we are yet to define how some values ā e.g. years only ā would be translated into SPARQL. This might be the key to alleviate some of the inherent issues with dates?). This data type is definitely a tricky one, and we wouldn't like to proceed being unaware of big problems. Since you seem to really have a deep understanding of the issue and its consequences, it'd be great if you'd be up for a chat? Of course we can chat. :-) I'll send you an email. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272697 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Sarai-WMDE, abian, Charlie_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, amy_rc, Aklapper, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T272697: (MS 6) Query for date values
abian added a comment. Hey over here. I'm writing to warn you that, unfortunately, this can be extremely problematic. Since Wikibase stores all dates with day precision, regardless of their actual precision (which is stored separately), and the irrelevant part of the value can be arbitrary, it's very easy to generate misinformation with these features, as has been quietly happening for years and continues to happen to many agents and to at least three Property constraint types (see T168379 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168379>, one of the most important causes of false positives in the very system that is intended to ensure data quality; and see https://reasonator.toolforge.org/?q=Q100410179 mentioning the year 1476, totally arbitrary value that Wikibase stores internally and shamelessly communicates to all software agents but does not display in its web interface). Including these features in the Query Builder aimed at the general public without first resolving this problem could have very undesirable consequences. I should have opened a Phabricator task describing this general problem and all its consequences, but I have never found the time or known where to start because of its magnitude and the questions it opens up. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272697 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Charlie_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, amy_rc, Aklapper, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T273368: Include MediaWiki:Randomlexeme in the Wikibase Lexeme extension
abian added a parent task: T273370: Make the Wikibase Lexeme extension show a section on lexicographical data in the sidebar. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273368 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T273369: Include MediaWiki:Lexicographical-data in the Wikibase Lexeme extension
abian added a parent task: T273370: Make the Wikibase Lexeme extension show a section on lexicographical data in the sidebar. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273369 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T273370: Make the Wikibase Lexeme extension show a section on lexicographical data in the sidebar
abian added subtasks: T273368: Include MediaWiki:Randomlexeme in the Wikibase Lexeme extension, T273369: Include MediaWiki:Lexicographical-data in the Wikibase Lexeme extension. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273370 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T273370: Make the Wikibase Lexeme extension show a section on lexicographical data in the sidebar
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata, Wikidata Lexicographical data. TASK DESCRIPTION We have a locally defined section on lexicographical data in Wikidata's sidebar <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar>. Including it by default in the Wikibase Lexeme extension would allow it to be displayed in other installations. Regardless of this, the migration of interface messages would make it easier to include their translations (see T273368 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273368> and T273369 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273369>). **Screenshots/mockups:** | F34076378: lexdata-en.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34076378> | F34076381: lexdata-qqx.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34076381> | | **Open questions:** - Should this section be migrated to the extension completely, or only partially, leaving some links not included by default? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273370 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T273369: Include MediaWiki:Lexicographical-data in the Wikibase Lexeme extension
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata, Wikidata Lexicographical data. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** We have **MediaWiki:Lexicographical-data <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Lexicographical-data>** locally defined on Wikidata. This makes it difficult to translate the message, as each translation must be manually included on a subpage by an administrator, and forces external installations to do the same locally. **Screenshots/mockups:** | F34076378: lexdata-en.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34076378> | F34076381: lexdata-qqx.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34076381> | | **Acceptance criteria:** - The Wikibase Lexeme extension introduces the interface message MediaWiki:Lexicographical-data by default. - The default content of MediaWiki:Lexicographical-data in English is `Lexicographical data`. **Open questions:** - A name other than MediaWiki:Lexicographical-data could be defined for this message if appropriate. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273369 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T273368: Include MediaWiki:Randomlexeme in the Wikibase Lexeme extension
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata, Wikidata Lexicographical data. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** We have **MediaWiki:Randomlexeme <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Randomlexeme>** locally defined on Wikidata. This makes it difficult to translate the message, as each translation must be manually included on a subpage by an administrator, and forces external installations to do the same locally. **Screenshots/mockups:** | F34076378: lexdata-en.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34076378> | F34076381: lexdata-qqx.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34076381> | | **Acceptance criteria:** - The Wikibase Lexeme extension introduces the interface message MediaWiki:Randomlexeme by default. - The default content of MediaWiki:Randomlexeme in English is `Random Lexeme`. **Open questions:** - The name of this message is based on that of MediaWiki:Randompage, but a different one could be defined. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273368 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T271079: Add "same language" constraint for lexicographical data properties
abian added a comment. Good idea. :D And also a similar constraint type for the lexical category? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271079 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Nikki, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T213803: [Tracking] Request for new constraint types
abian added a subtask: T271079: Add "same language" constraint for lexicographical data properties. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213803 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T271079: Add "same language" constraint for lexicographical data properties
abian added a parent task: T213803: [Tracking] Request for new constraint types. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271079 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Nikki, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T269724: Allow restricting constraints to certain entity types
abian added a comment. In T269724#6711904 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269724#6711904>, @Nikki wrote: > I can't take the credit for the task description, that's Lydia's work. :) What a shame, what a disappointmentā¦ > I don't think it would be a good idea to split this property. It serves exactly the same purpose in both places - to link to a file containing the pronunciation of a word - and multiple almost identical properties makes it harder for people to use the right one in the right place. It already took me a long time to stop accidentally using the "audio" property instead of "pronunciation audio". > > The property constraints themselves don't seem that complex to me. The main problem I have is that the way we model/describe them is quite abstract and technical and I can never remember exactly which properties/values I need to use. Most people should never need to touch property constraints though. Actually, only 27% of those active Wikidata users who decided to answer the survey on Property constraints (and who knew what Property constraints were) said that the system was "relatively easy" to use. Even considering only these users, by "complexity" I also mean the number of decisions the system requires us to consider. If the constraint system consisted only of adding or not adding a constraint per Property without qualifiers (only one constraint type available), there would only be one dichotomous decision to make for each Property, users would be aware of the two possible options and could spend time considering both to make the best decision. The number of decisions would be the number of Properties (~8260). This isn't a small number to begin with but can be addressed by all of us. If we had 25 constraint types without values or qualifiers (that is, the decision remains simply whether or not to add the constraint), there would be 8260*25=206500 decisions to be made. Here efforts are concentrated on a minority of Properties and the constraint types that are remembered, so the error of omission is introduced, it's not known whether certain constraints are missing because they aren't applicable or because they haven't yet been considered, some of the cases considered when there was only one constraint type are no longer considered and each constraint type receives several (up to ~25) times less attention on average. From this supersimplified scenario onwards, each qualifier that is possible to include and each value that needs to be specified causes a new combinatorial explosion in the number of decisions ("complexity"), increases the number of omissions and forces high-impact decisions to receive less attention, as the features that are recalled or well specified and the features that have the greatest impact in each case don't necessarily coincide. To cover a single case or a small set of them, the number of possibilities this qualifier would introduce, which could be specified for any constraint type, would be disproportionate, including inconsistencies such as specifying a set of entity types that violate those of the //allowed entity types// constraint, even specifying the entity types for an //allowed entity types// constraint. Perhaps to solve the problem you indicate with the different Properties ("pronunciation audio for this Item" or "pronunciation audio for this Form", for example) we only need //allowed entity types// constraints to be taken into account in the web interface (Properties that are not applicable to an entity type shouldn't be suggested for that entity type). Also according to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:2020_report_on_Property_constraints#allowed_entity_types: > This constraint type is the third with the highest proportion of mandatory constraints (48%), only after the Commons link and Property scope constraint types. Consistently, it has no constraints with the suggestion level and no exceptions. Widely applicable constraint types without exceptions, with a high proportion of mandatory constraints and with a clear and controlled set of parameters should be considered good candidates for becoming default Wikibase features. To reduce complexity for users (number of decisions they have to make), it would also be nice to address T244050 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244050> and remove from our sight those constraint types that don't make sense considering the Property type. All this talk is just my opinion, but I wanted to explain what I meant by "complexity", because I recognize that it was very ambiguous. Don't stop implementing something just because it doesn't look promising to me if the arguments don't convince youā¦ TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikime
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T269724: Allow restricting constraints to certain entity types
abian added a comment. I understand the motivation (thanks to the fact that Nikki's tasks are much more interesting and better described than mine), :-) but I believe we should strive to contain the complexity of the constraint system and, if possible, reduce the current complexity, which is quite high. The need that the example represents might not be recurrent and, for that case, I think we could have two Properties, one for Items and one for Forms, to better adjust the constraints (not only the one we're commenting on) and statements of each of them to their cases of use. I wouldn't find it a big problem if there were some similar statements on two different Properties, as they aren't expected to change frequently and they'll be used in different namespaces (so both shouldn't appear together or be read by the same software agents that might know about one Property but not about the other). Please don't hate me for this (hate me for something elseā¦). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269724 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Lydia_Pintscher, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Nikki, Aklapper, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T229100: Links for feedback on protected Wikidata entities
abian added a comment. It would be great to have this available considering T254280 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254280> and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Administrator/MsynABot; if there are some setbacks or this is proving more difficult than it seemed, we can comment on it, change the acceptance criteria, ask on Wikidata for ideasā¦ TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229100 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Charlie_WMDE, Bugreporter, Sjoerddebruin, Multichill, Lydia_Pintscher, MisterSynergy, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T254280: Semi-protecting all properties
abian added a comment. In T254280#6545624 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254280#6545624>, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote: > Is the page info just out of date? Does it get overwritten by namespace-wide protection and just doesn't reflect that? Luckily or unfortunately this happens on all wikis (also Wikipedia <https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=M%C3%B3dulo:NF&action=info&uselang=en#Page_protection>) and all protected/semi-protected namespaces (also the MediaWiki namespace <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer&action=info#Page_protection>). The (dis?)information page only seems to take into account the individual protection status of the page. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254280 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, abian Cc: ItamarWMDE, Bugreporter, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, WMDE-leszek, abian, alanajjar, Ymblanter, Rehman, Fuzheado, Lydia_Pintscher, Jasper, Bencemac, Addshore, Aklapper, Mike_Peel, Akuckartz, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, alaa_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T226885: Set up an open-source bot in Toolforge to regularly semi-protect the most used Wikidata Items
abian added a comment. See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/MsynABot. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226885 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Zylc, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, JJMC89, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, Gryllida, scfc, Mbch331, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T226885: Set up an open-source bot in Toolforge to regularly semi-protect the most used Wikidata Items
abian updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226885 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, skpuneethumar, Zylc, 1978Gage2001, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, DSquirrelGM, Jayprakash12345, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, Tbscho, LawExplorer, JJMC89, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Jitrixis, aude, Gryllida, scfc, Mbch331, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T229100: Links for feedback on protected Wikidata entities
abian added a parent task: T234976: feedback flows of Wikidata and the Wikibase ecosystem. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229100 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Charlie_WMDE, Bugreporter, Sjoerddebruin, Multichill, Lydia_Pintscher, MisterSynergy, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T234976: feedback flows of Wikidata and the Wikibase ecosystem
abian added a subtask: T229100: Links for feedback on protected Wikidata entities. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234976 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Hjfocs, Lydia_Pintscher, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T234976: feedback flows of Wikidata and the Wikibase ecosystem
abian updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234976 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Hjfocs, Lydia_Pintscher, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T254280: Semi-protecting all properties
abian added a comment. In my case, do I have to do anything with the patch? I always add reviewers arbitrarily, more or less according to the suggestions of the interface; should I add more/other reviewers, or change anything else? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254280 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: ItamarWMDE, Bugreporter, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, WMDE-leszek, abian, alanajjar, Ymblanter, Rehman, Fuzheado, Lydia_Pintscher, Jasper, Bencemac, Addshore, Aklapper, Mike_Peel, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T258354: remove noratelimit from bot group for Wikidata
abian added a comment. In T258354#6528169 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258354#6528169>, @Urbanecm wrote: > Ignore rate limits? No rate limit? Fast editors? Fast users? I don't think we should go for superbot, because there are use cases for noratelimit too, such as creating accounts at outreach events. According to what I've just checked, in the history of Wikidata the `accountcreator` flag has been granted four times, and on none of those occasions has it been used for anything, the users didn't create any account with it. If we anticipate that such a need may arise in the future, we could introduce the event coordinator <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Event_coordinator> group, although for now such a need doesn't seem to exist. I would prefer it to be understood that belonging to this group is an undesirable exception, and I wouldn't like users who don't belong to it (almost everyone) to be considered handicapped or punished because they're categorised as "slow" or "limited", as opposed to "fast" users; in fact, all users can continue to edit at a high rate. Other names as mediocre as "superbot" come to mind, from more serious to more irreverent: structural user/account, greedy user/account, exhausting/draining user/account, speed(ing) offender, freeloader, racehorse (racing goat <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_racing>? š¤Ø)ā¦ TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258354 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, MarcoAurelio, Urbanecm, ItamarWMDE, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Hazard-SJ, pywikibot-bugs-list, Multichill, Rschen7754, Pasleim, matej_suchanek, tfmorris, Ladsgroup, Mike_Peel, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Dipsacus_fullonum, Bugreporter, MisterSynergy, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, JohnsonLee01, SHEKH, Dijkstra, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Khutuck, Akuckartz, Zkhalido, Hook696, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, Viztor, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Wenyi, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tbscho, MayS, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Mdupont, JJMC89, Maathavan, Dvorapa, _jensen, rosalieper, Altostratus, Avicennasis, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, mys_721tx, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Ricordisamoa, Masti, Alchimista, Mbch331, Rxy ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T254280: Semi-protecting all properties
abian added a comment. If it's about testing what it's like to have the Property namespace with the permissions of the actual Wikidata, we could also set the autoconfirmed status on Test Wikidata to, for example, zero days and one edit, or zero edits. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254280 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, WMDE-leszek, abian, alanajjar, Ymblanter, Rehman, Fuzheado, Lydia_Pintscher, Jasper, Bencemac, Addshore, Aklapper, Mike_Peel, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T127213: [Bug] Merging doesn't always create a redirect
abian added a comment. This is still happening frequently and has consequences on the project. Some cases that I have recently found by chance: - On 6 October 2020 Wowo2008 partially merged Q1622041 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1622041&type=revision&diff=1287412614&oldid=1286925802> into Q7157841 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7157841&type=revision&diff=1287412615&oldid=1225524796>. Apparently, the user didn't notice. - On 18 September 2020 Siam2019 partially merged Q9761807 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9761807&type=revision&diff=1278863041&oldid=835470022> into Q7006090 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7006090&type=revision&diff=1278863043&oldid=1276246862>. Apparently, the user didn't notice. - On 2 September 2020 ŠŠ¾Š»Š±Š¾ŠÆŃŠµŃ partially merged Q9891392 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9891392&type=revision&diff=1270066914&oldid=836107673> into Q9909061 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9909061&type=revision&diff=1270067322&oldid=1015920764> (including a link to merge.js <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-Merge.js>). Apparently, the user didn't notice. - On 19 August 2020 Philemonbaucis partially merged Q8619302 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q8619302&type=revision&diff=1260910896&oldid=829258552> into Q30788505 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q30788505&type=revision&diff=1260910897&oldid=1110052441>. Apparently, the user didn't notice. - On 9 July 2020 Gotogo partially merged Q4783136 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4783136&type=revision&diff=1227968274&oldid=1003830436> into Q22426445 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q22426445&type=revision&diff=1227968276&oldid=980362207>. Apparently, the user didn't notice. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127213 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: daniel, Sjoerddebruin, abian, XXN, PokestarFan, MisterSynergy, Mahir256, Liuxinyu970226, Addshore, Pasleim, Lydia_Pintscher, Esc3300, Magnus, matej_suchanek, hoo, Mbch331, Aklapper, Nikki, StudiesWorld, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260737: Improve the editing reason labels and descriptions to be more precise
abian added a comment. In T260737#6520630 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260737#6520630>, @danshick-wmde wrote: > Howdy, I'm the technical writer in question. Hi, technical writer Dan! :-) > In light of this observation and the foregoing discussion, I propose the following wording: > >> Please select the type of edit you are making: >> I am supplying updated information (archive previous value) >> I am correcting an incorrect value (delete previous value) The motivation for this task is that users are clear about and make the right choices in the following two cases: 1. //I'm completing or making more precise the original value, which I already considered correct but less detailed// (e.g. museum ā history museum; cancer ā prostate cancer; Berlin ā Friedrichshain). 2. //I know the original value is not applicable today but I cannot determine if it was correct at some point in the past or not// (e.g. there was a population figure without references and I want to provide the one I just found on the council's website, which is different). Case 2 seems to be solved with your new wording, which no longer states that the previous value was necessarily correct at some point: "I am supplying updated information (archive previous value)". On the contrary, case 1 wouldn't be solved yet, as it's still claimed that the previous value was incorrect ("I am correcting an incorrect value") when it's not considered so ("completing or making more precise the original value, which I already considered correct"). I'm sure that the clarifications in brackets will be positive for experienced users ("archive previous value", "delete previous value"), but unfortunately I don't think they help users who don't know Wikidata's policies, i.e. when to delete/archive, to solve case 1. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260737 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: danshick-wmde, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264626: Enable ORES in Wikidata's Lexeme namespace
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata, ORES, Wikidata Lexicographical data. Restricted Application added a project: Machine Learning Platform. TASK DESCRIPTION This task is just a reminder that ORES is not currently configured in Wikidata's Lexeme namespace, for when those who can estimate its feasibility and its cost (computational, memory, working time, etc.) find it worthwhile to start the process. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264626 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, calbon, lmata, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Xinbenlv, Vacio, GoranSMilovanovic, Fz-29, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Mkdw, Scott_WUaS, notconfusing, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Alchimista, Mbch331, Rxy ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264542: With monolingual text, the language pop-up covers the value field
abian created this task. abian added a project: Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** On the web page of a Wikibase Item with a Property of the monolingual text data type, the pop-up for defining the language does not go down as the value field grows, so it covers the new text lines. **Screencast (current behaviour):** F32373316: immovable-language(1).gif <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F32373316> TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264542 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264537: MusicalNotation data type is missing from Wikibase's ontology-1.0.owl
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-Score. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** The data type MusicalNotation (see Special:ListDatatypes#musical-notation <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListDatatypes#musical-notation>) is not defined in the ontology-1.0.owl <http://wikiba.se/ontology-1.0.owl> file. **Acceptance criteria:** - `http://wikiba.se/ontology#MusicalNotation` is defined in Wikibase's ontology file. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264537 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, Samuele2002, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, mb, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ebe123, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264535: duplicated lines in all Wikidata entities with statements in LD formats
abian created this task. abian added a project: Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** The lineā¦ http://wikiba.se/ontology#Property"/> ā¦ is duplicated in all the blocks `rdf:Description` that describe statements of Items, Properties, Lexemes, Forms and Senses in RDF (*.rdf). Analogous lines are also duplicated in, at least, Notation3 (*.n3), Turtle (*.ttl), N-Triples (*.nt) and JSON-LD (*.jsonld). **Examples:** - Item Q42 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q42.rdf> in RDF, first duplication out of 241 (the line appears 482 times): http://www.wikidata.org/entity/P31";> http://wikiba.se/ontology#Property"/> http://wikiba.se/ontology#Property"/> http://wikiba.se/ontology#WikibaseItem"/> [ā¦] - Property P101 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P101.n3> in Notation3: wd:P101 a wikibase:Property, wikibase:Property ; - Lexeme L2 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/L2.ttl> in Turtle: wd:P5831 a wikibase:Property, wikibase:Property ; - Form L2-F1 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/L2-F1.nt> in N-Triples: <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/P898> <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://wikiba.se/ontology#Property> . <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/P898> <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://wikiba.se/ontology#Property> . - Sense L2-S1 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/L2-S1.jsonld> in JSON-LD: "@type": [ "wikibase:Property", "wikibase:Property" ], **Acceptance criteria:** - The content `http://wikiba.se/ontology#Property"/>` in RDF, or its analogous in other formats, is no longer unnecessarily duplicated. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264535 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T264499: Incomplete merging of Items
abian created this task. abian added a project: Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** Sometimes, when a user tries to merge two Items, the two corresponding edits, one on the source Item and one on the target Item, are saved with some of the changes, but not all of them. The conflicting labels, descriptions or aliases are left behind, and the corresponding redirect is not created. Often the responsible users don't notice the problem, so they leave the Items in that state. At the moment we don't know when the problem occurs, but we do know that merge.js <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-Merge.js> was used at least in one case. **Examples:** - On 9 July 2020 Gotogo partially merged Q4783136 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4783136&type=revision&diff=1227968274&oldid=1003830436> into Q22426445 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q22426445&type=revision&diff=1227968276&oldid=980362207>. Apparently, the user didn't notice. - On 19 August 2020 Philemonbaucis partially merged Q8619302 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q8619302&type=revision&diff=1260910896&oldid=829258552> into Q30788505 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q30788505&type=revision&diff=1260910897&oldid=1110052441>. Apparently, the user didn't notice. - On 2 September 2020 ŠŠ¾Š»Š±Š¾ŠÆŃŠµŃ partially merged Q9891392 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9891392&type=revision&diff=1270066914&oldid=836107673> into Q9909061 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9909061&type=revision&diff=1270067322&oldid=1015920764> (including a link to merge.js <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-Merge.js>). Apparently, the user didn't notice. - On 18 September 2020 Siam2019 partially merged Q9761807 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9761807&type=revision&diff=1278863041&oldid=835470022> into Q7006090 <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7006090&type=revision&diff=1278863043&oldid=1276246862>. Apparently, the user didn't notice. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264499 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T254280: Potentially semi-protecting all properties: best approach?
abian added a comment. According to the resolution of Wikidata:Requests for comment/General semi protection for all property pages <https://www.wikidata.org/?diff=1285653229&oldid=1284596132> today: > The grace period proposal has been opposed. Thus, all property pages must be semi-protected.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}]]) 20:51, 2 October 2020 (UTC) So the solution is `$wgNamespaceProtection`. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254280 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, alanajjar, Ymblanter, Rehman, Fuzheado, Lydia_Pintscher, Jasper, Bencemac, Addshore, Aklapper, Mike_Peel, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260728: suggestions to improve Wikidata Bridge dialog when direct editing is not supported
abian added a comment. Thank you, Charlie! I've updated the description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260728 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Vriullop, Charlie_WMDE, Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260728: suggestions to improve Wikidata Bridge dialog when direct editing is not supported
abian renamed this task from "too wordy Wikidata Bridge dialog when direct editing is not supported" to "suggestions to improve Wikidata Bridge dialog when direct editing is not supported". abian updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260728 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Vriullop, Charlie_WMDE, Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260728: suggestions to improve Wikidata Bridge dialog when direct editing is not supported
abian added a subtask: T261103: Bridge interface translations: datatype names in italic and untranslated. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260728 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Vriullop, Charlie_WMDE, Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T261103: Bridge interface translations: datatype names in italic and untranslated
abian added a parent task: T260728: suggestions to improve Wikidata Bridge dialog when direct editing is not supported. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261103 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Charlie_WMDE, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Vriullop, Incabell, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, abian, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T258354: create new rate-limited bot group for Wikidata
abian added a comment. I like this solution. The only right provided by the flag of account creator is `noratelimit`, and right now no user account has this flag, so we can freely change the group/flag name with MediaWiki:Group-accountcreator <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Group-accountcreator> and MediaWiki:Group-accountcreator-member <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Group-accountcreator-member> to fit its future purpose on Wikidata. What should this group/flag be called? //Superbot//? Something more creative? Ideally, the name shouldn't suggest that it's redundant with the bot group/flag, but additional. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258354 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, MarcoAurelio, Urbanecm, ItamarWMDE, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Hazard-SJ, pywikibot-bugs-list, Multichill, Rschen7754, Pasleim, matej_suchanek, tfmorris, Ladsgroup, Mike_Peel, Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Dipsacus_fullonum, Bugreporter, MisterSynergy, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, JohnsonLee01, SHEKH, Dijkstra, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Khutuck, Akuckartz, Zkhalido, Hook696, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, Viztor, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Wenyi, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tbscho, MayS, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Mdupont, JJMC89, Maathavan, Dvorapa, _jensen, rosalieper, Altostratus, Avicennasis, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, mys_721tx, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Ricordisamoa, Masti, Alchimista, Mbch331, Rxy ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T195226: Precision issues with diff-within-range constraint in Wikidata
abian removed a parent task: T168379: Deal with precision in ārangeā, ādifference within rangeā and "contemporary" constraints. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195226 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T168379: Deal with precision in ārangeā, ādifference within rangeā and "contemporary" constraints
abian removed a subtask: T195226: Precision issues with diff-within-range constraint in Wikidata. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168379 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Epidosis, abian, Tacsipacsi, doctaxon, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Ivan_A_Krestinin, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T226883: Semi-protection of very used Wikidata Items
abian closed subtask T226882: Generate regularly the list of unprotected and very used Wikidata Items as "Declined". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226883 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: MisterSynergy, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T226882: Generate regularly the list of unprotected and very used Wikidata Items
abian closed this task as "Declined". abian added a comment. We have a regularly generated list in CSV format that will meet this objective. :D TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226882 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263867: Wikibase's ontology-1.0.owl has the label "referenceValue" repeated
abian closed this task as "Resolved". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263867 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, danshick-wmde, abian, Aklapper, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263867: Wikibase's ontology-1.0.owl has the label "referenceValue" repeated
abian added a comment. I know three ontology (OWL) files, all independently edited (which is not good): 1. https://wikiba.se/ontology-1.0.owl 2. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLexeme/+/refs/heads/master/docs/ontology.owl 3. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/refs/heads/master/docs/ontology.owl [1] manually combines [2] and [3]. [2] imports [1] via `http://wikiba.se/ontology#"; />` (line 22 <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLexeme/+/refs/heads/master/docs/ontology.owl#22>). The important file is [1], and I really don't know the applications of [2] and [3], but they make maintenance tedious. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263867 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, danshick-wmde, abian, Aklapper, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263867: Wikibase's ontology-1.0.owl has the label "referenceValue" repeated
abian added a comment. Pull request for wikiba.se: https://github.com/wmde/wikiba.se/pull/14. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263867 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263867: Wikibase's ontology-1.0.owl has the label "referenceValue" repeated
abian created this task. abian added a project: Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION Lines 310-311 of https://wikiba.se/ontology-1.0.owl are: referenceValue The label "referenceValue" is already defined on line 305 and, for consistency, this should be "referenceValueNormalized": referenceValueNormalized TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263867 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263435: `content was: ""` (empty string) when deleting Lexemes
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata Lexicographical data, Wikidata. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** When deleting a Lexeme, it is indicated that the content was an empty string (`""`). This prevents users from identifying what the Lexeme was about before it was deleted. **Acceptance criteria:** - `content was: "" [ā¦]` TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263435 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263360: Newcomers do not understand the difference between Item and Lexeme when creating an entity
abian updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
abian added a subtask: T195446: [Story] Prefil language/lexical category on Special:NewLexeme via URL parameter. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: PokestarFan, Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T195446: [Story] Prefil language/lexical category on Special:NewLexeme via URL parameter
abian added a parent task: T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195446 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, abian, VIGNERON, Lydia_Pintscher, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, Mahir256, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T255720: Error message when trying to create duplicate item doesn't contain link to item that would be duplicated
abian added a parent task: T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255720 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Moebeus, jhsoby, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wong128hk, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
abian added a subtask: T255720: Error message when trying to create duplicate item doesn't contain link to item that would be duplicated. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: PokestarFan, Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
abian added a subtask: T190761: Language selector on Special:NewItem matches only language code, not language name. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: PokestarFan, Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T190761: Language selector on Special:NewItem matches only language code, not language name
abian added a parent task: T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190761 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, thiemowmde, Aklapper, hoo, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
abian added a subtask: T219499: [Problem] `Special:SetAliases`, `Special:NewItem` and `Special:NewProperty` separates aliases with | character but have no way to make a | part of one alias' text. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: PokestarFan, Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T219499: [Problem] `Special:SetAliases`, `Special:NewItem` and `Special:NewProperty` separates aliases with | character but have no way to make a | part of one alias' text
abian added a parent task: T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219499 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: sarhan.alaa, Lydia_Pintscher, alaa_wmde, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, thiemowmde, Greta_Doci_WMDE, Tarrow, Addshore, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T195415: Special:NewItem - fields direction should be defined according to the language
abian added a parent task: T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195415 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: eranroz, abian Cc: Aklapper, gerritbot, Ladsgroup, Amire80, eranroz, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Huji, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
abian added a subtask: T195415: Special:NewItem - fields direction should be defined according to the language. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: PokestarFan, Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
abian added a subtask: T263360: Newcomers do not understand the difference between Item and Lexeme when creating an entity. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: PokestarFan, Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263360: Newcomers do not understand the difference between Item and Lexeme when creating an entity
abian added a parent task: T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
abian added a subtask: T214307: Clean up input placeholders on NewEntity pages (Special:NewItem, Special:NewProperty, ā¦). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: PokestarFan, Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T214307: Clean up input placeholders on NewEntity pages (Special:NewItem, Special:NewProperty, ā¦)
abian added a parent task: T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214307 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T263360: Newcomers do not understand the difference between Item and Lexeme when creating an entity
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata Lexicographical data, Wikidata. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem:** Newcomers to Wikidata don't know what an "Item" or a "Lexeme" is and don't understand the difference between both. This is not a problem with visible consequences until they want to create an entity and need to choose between "Create a new Item" (Special:NewItem) and "Create a new Lexeme" (Special:NewLexeme), when they end up creating an entity of the wrong type. The introductory texts on both special pages are proving insufficient to understand the differences and it is well known that many users do not read those texts. This can be confirmed by the fact that some users, being initially on the right special page, access the other page through the link in the introductory text and end up creating an entity of the wrong type, and also by the high percentage of newcomers who write labels and descriptions with unjustified capital letters, or write full sentences as descriptions, even though this is explained as being wrong in the corresponding introductory text. **Possible solutions:** Create a special (or non-special) page that serves as an entry point ("Create an entity") to choose which entity to create based on the user's intentions and that does not use technical or Wikidata terms (no "Item", "Lexeme", etc.), improve the current special pages to highlight their differences with the interface itself (e.g. the language requested in Special:NewItem refers only to the language in which the label, description and aliases are currently written, while the language requested in Special:NewLexeme refers to the entire entity), include missing checks in the data on Special:NewItem and Special:NewLexeme to detect problems (e.g. the "lexical category" is not a lexical category, a Lexeme with the same lemma, language and lexical category already exists, etc.), include more fields on both special pages to make clear what kind of data the entity will be able to store, etc. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263360 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T207648: If users can't edit a Wikipedia article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item
abian closed this task as "Resolved". abian claimed this task. abian added a comment. `.mw-editable` was implemented and is being used, and the possible remaining loose ends are expected to be resolved with the extension of #wikidata-bridge <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikidata-bridge/> to all Wikipedias. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207648 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: MZMcBride, Addshore, MGChecker, Krinkle, Haros, Krenair, Ivanhercaz, Sjoerddebruin, Agabi10, Lydia_Pintscher, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T76230: [Epic] data quality and trust
abian closed subtask T207648: If users can't edit a Wikipedia article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item as "Resolved". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76230 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: 99of9, Cirdan, Hjfocs, AfroThundr3007730, Agabi10, Capankajsmilyo, Herzi.Pinki, SandraF_WMF, Tbayer, abian, Aklapper, Ricordisamoa, Elitre, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, NavinRizwi, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, DannyS712, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dinoguy1000, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T207651: Purge the necessary Wikimedia pages immediately when an edit is reverted on Wikidata
abian closed this task as "Declined". abian added a comment. I have no news that this is happening right now, and I assume that, thanks to #wikidata-bridge <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikidata-bridge/>, this will be under control from now on. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207651 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Dipsacus_fullonum, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T76230: [Epic] data quality and trust
abian closed subtask T207651: Purge the necessary Wikimedia pages immediately when an edit is reverted on Wikidata as "Declined". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76230 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: 99of9, Cirdan, Hjfocs, AfroThundr3007730, Agabi10, Capankajsmilyo, Herzi.Pinki, SandraF_WMF, Tbayer, abian, Aklapper, Ricordisamoa, Elitre, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, NavinRizwi, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, DannyS712, Nickleh, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dinoguy1000, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260728: too wordy Wikidata Bridge dialog when direct editing is not supported
abian added a comment. In T260728#6459405 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260728#6459405>, @Charlie_WMDE wrote: > Hi Abian, I am the designer working on the Bridge. Hi, Charlie. Then congratulations on the good work; despite the doubts I'm raising here, I think the interface is very well thought out. >> Omit either the description ("At the moment [ā¦] cannot be edited because it contains more than one value") or the title of the error ("Editing multiple values is currently not supported") when they both communicate the same idea with a similar level of detail. > > We are working within the constraints of WMF styleguide, in this case for notices and error messages. *zips his mouth* > That being said, Iām happy to adjust the text to make it less redundant. I will be looking into this as part of a small round of fixes we can make to the bridge. If you have any suggestions in mind yourself, feel free to let me know! For example, would it be possible to include as a title a first sentence (the consequence), and as a description another sentence (the cause), as if they were contiguous sentences in the same paragraph? //**The car has stopped.**// (Or "you can't edit this directly from Wikipedia.") //We have run out of gasoline.// (Or the reason why you can't edit this directly from Wikipedia in this particular case, without repeating that you can't do it.) Although I'm sure there will be better optionsā¦ >> Avoid showing the text "Edit the value on Wikidata" twice (both in the explanatory text and on the button). > > Iām happy to explain my decision here. From a UX point of view it makes sense to add some redundancy here. The reason being that the best practice for button labelling should clearly indicate the action the button will perform. The explanatory text should also be exactly that, an explanation of the option. Removing it here would defeat the purpose of the text. It could be possible to change the text a bit so the sentence doesnāt exactly repeat, but that would mean that now we put a burden on the editor, to bridge the gap between the text and the button label, to realise that that is in fact the action the text is talking about. Navigating a UI is already a hindrance, because the way the editor thinks will never be exactly along the lines of how the system works and how the UI communicates it. Reducing any room for misinterpretation is key. Sometimes that comes at the cost of redundancy. I'm not sure I understand this part. Why is the explanatory text necessary when it says the same thing as the button and it has to do it with the same words? >> Omit an explanation ("Depending on the template used, it might be possible to overwrite the value locally using the article editor") that does not help the user make a decision: it does not indicate whether, in that case, the value should be defined locally or not, and it does not explain how to do it. > > The reason why we didnāt include instructions here is because our goal is simply to let editors know of their options, not provide tutorials on how to follow through with them. Same goes for the first option, to edit on Wikidata. If the editor chooses to edit the value locally, which is something we do not encourage, it is up to them to make sure they make the edit compliant with the rules of the wiki. I do not believe that informing of options also requires us to explain how to make the edit. I agree; I wasn't referring to a tutorial, but to the fact that indicating that the option to edit locally "might be possible" (or might not be) just doesn't provide much value to the user in my opinion, and actually the two options might (or might not) be possible or applicable in different circumstances. That's why I imagined there was a particular motivation underlying that text that had been thought out but perhaps not written down. >> Consider converting the second suggestion's hyperlink into another button. This button could have the same format, or a less eye-catching one (e.g., white background), to show it is a less preferred option. > > We chose to go with a link here because It is common to either use links or buttons to help the editors navigate inside the Wiki. Since we want to discourage editors from editing a value locally, we chose the least intrusive option for that action. Making it a white button, would draw more attention to it than weād like to, even though it would be less than the first button. Okay. >> Move the text "If at all possible, we recommend that you instead add the value to Wikidata via the button above" to the first suggestion, as it is not related with the second one. Consider rephrasing this suggesti
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260737: Some types of edits with Wikidata Bridge do not have an applicable selector
abian added a comment. Hi, Charlie. š In T260737#6459414 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260737#6459414>, @Charlie_WMDE wrote: >> Okay. Then the description might be incomplete; for example, if I change a territorial administrative unit to a lower one, I wouldn't consider that the previous value "was not correct and has never been". I personally would think that I would have improved the original value, but not that the original value was wrong, and I wouldn't know what to choose. In this situation people might choose arbitrarily (if they didn't have much time) or they might feel forced to ask about the consequences of these decisions and about Wikidata's policies on when to add values and when to replace them. > > Iām not sure i understand the scenario correctly, but i would think, if it was a mistake, then choosing the first option ācorrectingā would be correct, if the unit has changed then the āoutdatedā option would be the correct one to pick. Can you clarify? I'm thinking of the scenario where the reader doesn't consider the original value to be incorrect or outdated but wishes to reflect a more precise/complete value. For example, they want to change "musem" to "history museum", or "cancer" to "prostate cancer", or "Berlin" to "Friedrichshain". In any case, this will hopefully be resolved with the possible rewording (the addition of "less [ā¦] complete or precise"). >> First I thought of population figures for a municipality, the number of employees in a companyā¦ mainly of quantities, but I think this would apply to any other data type. If I read that a village has a population of 432 according to the infobox, but I have just checked that today there are 276 inhabitants according to an official source, I know that the value from the official source can be considered correct now, but I don't know if the previous figure was correct at some point in the past or not. It seems to me that this situation will occur often, as normally we don't know the full history of anything and we can't rule out that a value may have been correct an unknown number of years ago. >> >> As to what the related action should be... in my opinion, the value should be overwritten if it had no qualifiers or references, and preserved if it had a reference or a qualifier (in this case, the new value should have a preferred rank, and the original value should be downgraded to normal value if it had been marked as preferred). But this is only my opinion, and I know it's a mess; when in doubt, adding the value might be the lesser of two evils. (?) > > That seems like a reasonable conclusion. Is there something that would stop you from doing exactly that in the bridge? Currently we can not display qualifiers unfortunately, but references can already be viewed. What you said about the lesser evil makes a lot of sense to me. Maybe youāre suggestion of putting the āoutdatedā-option first, would serve a second purpose. People will more likely select the first option when in doubt. Great point, I hadn't thought of that. :-) >> I am going to make some suggestions gathering all this together: >> >> - **The order of the options could be changed** so that the most specific or less ambiguous option ("I updated") appears first. This might let the user know that the wording of the second option is no longer covering the first case ("I corrected" does not include updating, because that option has already been mentioned). >> - "I updated an outdated value / The previous value used to be correct but now is outdated." >> - ā "I updated **the (or "a")** value / The previous (or "original") value **may have been** (to cover the doubtful case) correct but now is outdated." >> - "I corrected an incorrect value / The previous value was not correct and has never been." >> - ā "I corrected **or completed the (or "a")** value / The previous (or "original") value was **less** correct**, complete or precise**." >> >> These are just my suggestions, feel free to adapt or rule them all out if they aren't useful. > > I will run these past our technical writer. Thank you for the suggestions! They both make a lot of sense to me! Perfect; from what we've discussed, I think the rewording would be enough to resolve this task. Thank you! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260737 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262397: Create visual permalinks for item statements and values
abian added a comment. I think this is similar to T218402 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218402>. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262397 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, MavropaliasG, cristiana023, Akuckartz, JanJaquemot, Demian, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, JGirault, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262756: Avoid invalid characters for a certain spelling variant
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata Lexicographical data, Wikidata. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem**: Due to the complexity of lexicographical data on Wikidata and the wide range of spelling variants, languages and dialects, some users add forms and lemmas with incorrect spelling variant codes. **Acceptance criteria**: In those cases where it is possible to determine a set of valid characters for a spelling variant, users should at least be notified when they include characters outside that set. For example, users should be warned when they introduce strictly traditional Chinese characters (`zh-hant`) with a spelling variant `zh-hans` (simplified Chinese) and vice versa. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262756 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262741: "Wikidata API format usage" Grafana dashboard is empty
abian created this task. abian added projects: Graphite, Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem**: The "Wikidata API format usage <https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/00169/wikidata-api-format-usage>" Grafana dashboard is accesible but is not displaying any data. F32283274: no-data-api.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F32283274> TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262741 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Robin.guo, Imarlier, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, fgiunchedi ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T157774: Make it impossible to set the same content in the same language for label and alias
abian added a comment. I have simplified the description and removed from it the features that would never have been possible, leaving the description as in T212869 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212869>. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157774 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Epidosis, PokestarFan, Lydia_Pintscher, Izno, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T157774: Make it impossible to set the same content in the same language for label and alias
abian renamed this task from "A label and an alias should never be the same in the same language and item in Wikidata" to "Make it impossible to set the same content in the same language for label and alias". abian updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157774 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Epidosis, PokestarFan, Lydia_Pintscher, Izno, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T157774: A label and an alias should never be the same in the same language and item in Wikidata
abian added a comment. In T157774#6423086 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157774#6423086>, @Epidosis wrote: > I think that "lowest" priority is maybe a bit too low. While a solution isn't found, maybe a bot can be programmed in order to remove duplicate aliases and (if possible) to send a standard warning message to the users who added them. It might be time to revisit this task now that the very similar T212869 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212869> is resolved and the editing frequency is a problem at the technical level. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157774 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Epidosis, PokestarFan, Lydia_Pintscher, Izno, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260737: Some types of edits with Wikidata Bridge do not have an applicable selector
abian added a comment. Hi, LĆ©a; I hope you have enjoyed the summer (which isn't technically over). :-) Thank you for the explanation. The risk I see in having two such opposite and assertive options ("incorrect", "was not correct and has never been", etc.) is that, in the grey area, or in case of doubt, users might end up choosing randomly, and that, from what you say, might not be ideal because it would have consequences on how values are finally reflected. > We think that completing a value or making it more precise can be considered as "correcting". The action behind it would be the same (editing the existing value). Okay. Then the description might be incomplete; for example, if I change a territorial administrative unit to a lower one, I wouldn't consider that the previous value "was not correct and has never been". I personally would think that I would have improved the original value, but not that the original value was wrong, and I wouldn't know what to choose. In this situation people might choose arbitrarily (if they didn't have much time) or they might feel forced to ask about the consequences of these decisions and about Wikidata's policies on when to add values and when to replace them. > About "I know the original value is not applicable today but I cannot determine if it was correct at some point in the past or not.", is that a theoretical example, or did you encounter this situation in the past? If so, can you tell us more about this example? > If someone is facing this situation, what should be the related action on Wikidata? First I thought of population figures for a municipality, the number of employees in a companyā¦ mainly of quantities, but I think this would apply to any other data type. If I read that a village has a population of 432 according to the infobox, but I have just checked that today there are 276 inhabitants according to an official source, I know that the value from the official source can be considered correct now, but I don't know if the previous figure was correct at some point in the past or not. It seems to me that this situation will occur often, as normally we don't know the full history of anything and we can't rule out that a value may have been correct an unknown number of years ago. As to what the related action should be... in my opinion, the value should be overwritten if it had no qualifiers or references, and preserved if it had a reference or a qualifier (in this case, the new value should have a preferred rank, and the original value should be downgraded to normal value if it had been marked as preferred). But this is only my opinion, and I know it's a mess; when in doubt, adding the value might be the lesser of two evils. (?) --- I am going to make some suggestions gathering all this together: - **The order of the options could be changed** so that the most specific or less ambiguous option ("I updated") appears first. This might let the user know that the wording of the second option is no longer covering the first case ("I corrected" does not include updating, because that option has already been mentioned). - "I updated an outdated value / The previous value used to be correct but now is outdated." - ā "I updated **the (or "a")** value / The previous (or "original") value **may have been** (to cover the doubtful case) correct but now is outdated." - "I corrected an incorrect value / The previous value was not correct and has never been." - ā "I corrected **or completed the (or "a")** value / The previous (or "original") value was **less** correct**, complete or precise**." These are just my suggestions, feel free to adapt or rule them all out if they aren't useful. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260737 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Charlie_WMDE, abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T166470: Include links in Wikidata HTTP responses to different entity representations as Link headers
abian added a comment. This is already working for the HTML pages of Wikidata. In T166470#6199846 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166470#6199846>, @abian wrote: > [X] A request for a page that is not a Wikibase entity does not generate a response with links to alternative structured representations. $ curl --head 'https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page' | grep 'link:' # existing page in the Wikidata namespace ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ $ curl --head 'https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/EntitySchema:E2' | grep 'link:' # existing page in the EntitySchema namespace ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ $ curl --head 'https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7' | grep 'link:' # non-existing Item ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ > [X] A request for a Wikibase Item generates a response with links to alternative structured representations. $ curl --head 'https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5' | grep 'link:' link: <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q5.json>; rel="alternate"; type="application/json",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q5.php>; rel="alternate"; type="application/vnd.php.serialized",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q5.rdf>; rel="alternate"; type="application/rdf+xml",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q5.n3>; rel="alternate"; type="text/n3",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q5.ttl>; rel="alternate"; type="text/turtle",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q5.nt>; rel="alternate"; type="application/n-triples",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q5.jsonld>; rel="alternate"; type="application/ld+json" > [X] A request for a Wikibase Property generates a response with links to alternative structured representations. $ curl --head 'https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P39' | grep 'link:' link: <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P39.json>; rel="alternate"; type="application/json",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P39.php>; rel="alternate"; type="application/vnd.php.serialized",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P39.rdf>; rel="alternate"; type="application/rdf+xml",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P39.n3>; rel="alternate"; type="text/n3",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P39.ttl>; rel="alternate"; type="text/turtle",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P39.nt>; rel="alternate"; type="application/n-triples",<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P39.jsonld>; rel="alternate"; type="application/ld+json" > [X] The link headers are well formatted. They follow the pattern `<` + + `>; rel="alternate"; type="` + + `"`. > [X] All the alternative structured representations listed are available. They are. > [X] All the alternative structured representations available are listed. They are. According to Special:EntityData <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData>: "json, php, n3, ttl, nt, rdf, jsonld". > [X] All the alternative structured representations listed are about the requested Wikibase entity. They are. And it also seems to work on test.wikidata.org (and, by extension, any Wikibase installation from now on). $ curl --head 'https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10' | grep 'link:' link: <https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q10.json>; rel="alternate"; type="application/json",<https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q10.php>; rel="alternate"; type="application/vnd.php.serialized",<https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q10.rdf>; rel="alternate"; type="application/rdf+xml",<https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q10.n3>; rel="alternate"; type="text/n3",<https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q10.ttl>; rel="alternate"; type="text/turtle",<https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q10.nt>; rel="alternate"; type="application/n-triples",<https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q10.jsonld>; rel="alternate"; type="application/ld+json" TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166470 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Ladsgroup, Lydia_Pintscher, Addshore, daniel, Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, alaa_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T166470: Include links in Wikidata HTTP responses to different entity representations as Link headers
abian updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166470 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Ladsgroup, Lydia_Pintscher, Addshore, daniel, Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, alaa_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260768: Remove signal: Number of sitelinks
abian added a comment. Side note: Please keep in mind that data quality is often understood as the "fitness for use" (http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/system/files/swj414.pdf) or "purpose" (https://www.cio.com/article/3124402/ensuring-the-quality-of-fit-for-purpose-data.html) of the data. From the RfC "Data quality framework for Wikidata <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Data_quality_framework_for_Wikidata>": > Following Lukanyenko et al., 2014[1], we define data quality as āthe extent to which stored information represents the phenomena of interest to data consumers (and project sponsors), as perceived by information contributorsā. As a result, relevance has traditionally been considered a data quality dimension: all things being equal, the data that is most relevant to users (more linked/shared/used) can also be considered of higher quality. The mentioned RfC also proposed <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Data_quality_framework_for_Wikidata#Interlinking> that sitelinks were a relevant data quality dimension for Wikidata in particular: > The extent to which data are sufficiently interlinked to other resources, either within or without Wikimedia. > > - Description and examples: Items should be linked to equivalent entities in other knowledge bases; Items should have an appropriate number of links to other Wikimedia projects. This side note is not to force anyone to rethink this task or to change the way in which ORES is being used, only to warn that probably not many more signals are being used to determine whether the data ultimately meets people's needs (the decisive indicator and high-level synonym of "data quality"), and that some definitions and objectives reflected in different places under the common name of "data quality" are unfortunately less and less aligned. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260768 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: guergana.tzatchkova, abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, guergana.tzatchkova, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ladsgroup, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T166470: Include links in Wikidata HTTP responses to different entity representations as Link headers
abian added a comment. Everything looks good to me on https://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/. Thank you, folks! It's pending the opposite, that those formats point to each other and to the HTML version. This step is important because: - unlike the HTML version, where the link headers also appear in the content, with the alternative formats the links don't appear anywhere; - some agents give more credit to reciprocal links. I don't know if I should try to modify repo/includes/LinkedData/EntityDataRequestHandler.php <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/refs/heads/master/repo/includes/LinkedData/EntityDataRequestHandler.php> or if we'll finish earlier by leaving this to the experts from the beginning. What do you think? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166470 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Ladsgroup, Lydia_Pintscher, Addshore, daniel, Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, alaa_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Krenair ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260737: Some types of edits with Wikidata Bridge do not have an applicable selector
abian updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260737 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260737: Some types of edits with Wikidata Bridge do not have an applicable selector
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata-Bridge, Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem**: As a user, when I'm editing Wikidata from Wikipedia with Wikidata Bridge, sometimes I don't have a radio button representing the type of edit I'm making. For example, I don't have an applicable option when: - I'm completing or making more precise the original value, which I already considered correct but less detailed. - I know the original value is not applicable today but I cannot determine if it was correct at some point in the past or not. I should know which option to choose in these cases, either from the two existing options (in which case the descriptions should be rewritten) or from new ones. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260737 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: abian, Aklapper, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T260728: too wordy Wikidata Bridge dialog when direct editing is not supported
abian created this task. abian added projects: Wikidata-Bridge, Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION **Problem**: As a user I find this dialog (which includes messages `wikibase-client-data-bridge-unsupported-datatype-error-*` and `wikibase-client-data-bridge-bailout-*`) a bit confusing because of its verbosity, its repetitions and the inconsistency between the button of the first suggestion and the hyperlink of the second. F32187667: confusing-message.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F32187667> **Suggestions for improvement** (non-exhaustive list): [ ] Omit either the description ("At the moment [ā¦] cannot be edited because it contains more than one value") or the title of the error ("Editing multiple values is currently not supported") when they both communicate the same idea with a similar level of detail. [ ] Avoid showing the text "Edit the value on Wikidata" twice (both in the explanatory text and on the button). [ ] Omit an explanation ("Depending on the template used, it might be possible to overwrite the value locally using the article editor") that does not help the user make a decision: it does not indicate whether, in that case, the value should be defined locally or not, and it does not explain how to do it. [ ] Consider converting the second suggestion's hyperlink into another button. This button could have the same format, or a less eye-catching one (e.g., white background), to show it is a less preferred option. [ ] Move the text "If at all possible, we recommend that you instead add the value to Wikidata via the button above" to the first suggestion, as it is not related with the second one. Consider rephrasing this suggestion in fewer words (e.g., simply write "(recommended)" next to the first button or suggestion). [ ] Indicate the name of the parameter in quotes, in italics or with other style differences to avoid it being confused with the rest of the dialogue, especially when the name is made up of several words (see screenshot). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260728 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Aklapper, abian, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Michael, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs