[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T145522: [feature request] how to clean up redirects in sitelinks
kaldari added a comment. Is this still a valid feature request? The main problem identified in the description (that some articles are linked to in Wikidata via redirects) doesn't seem to actually be a problem, as this is explicitly allowed on Wikidata, and desirable in many situations. If the feature request is just to remove unintentional links via redirects, that should be clarified in the title and description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145522 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: kaldari, Alsee, matej_suchanek, PokestarFan, thiemowmde, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Liuxinyu970226, TomT0m, Lydia_Pintscher, Alphos, Aklapper, Esc3300, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, lucamauri, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list -- wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-bugs-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages
kaldari added a comment. > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/602422/ still seems like a product decision by @Lydia_Pintscher and or @Samantha_Alipio_WMDE that needs to happen here. In that case, would you mind asking one of them to respond here or at T54564 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564>? They do not seem to be responsive to Phabricator pings. > Looking at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/602422 this changes all input of site title to NOT be normalized. > This will probably lead to a large number of sitelinks being created as redirects, rather than just for the cases discussed here and in T54564 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564> etc. That is correct. > Briefly looking at T235420#5932084 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235420#5932084> it sounds like this could have a solution that doesn't change all sitelink title input. > This comment suggests that the issue is that badges can not be created on sitelinks that are redirects. > Is that functionality alone enough to meet the requirements here? > This ticket is after all about "Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages", not "do not use canonical pages names (including following redirects) when sitelinks are created" Either solution is fine with me, but just ignoring everyone isn't a good solution. The Wikidata community clearly favors allowing redirects as sitelinks and has been doing it via a workaround for a long time now. There's no good reason (that I've heard) to make it so difficult. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235420 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Ladsgroup, kaldari Cc: Samantha_Alipio_WMDE, Addshore, Simon_Villeneuve, ChristianKl, seav, kaldari, Eugene, Naseweis520, DemonDays64, DannyS712, Ladsgroup, Gamaliel, Fuzheado, ItamarWMDE, JAnD, Hsarrazin, deryckchan, agray, Lydia_Pintscher, MisterSynergy, Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, Jheald, Alter-paule, Hazizibinmahdi, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages
kaldari added a comment. If there are no objections within the next two weeks, I'm planning on +2ing https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602412 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602422. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235420 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Ladsgroup, kaldari Cc: Addshore, Simon_Villeneuve, ChristianKl, seav, kaldari, Eugene, Naseweis520, DemonDays64, DannyS712, Ladsgroup, Gamaliel, Fuzheado, ItamarWMDE, JAnD, Hsarrazin, deryckchan, agray, Lydia_Pintscher, MisterSynergy, Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, Jheald, Alter-paule, Hazizibinmahdi, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages
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kaldari added a comment.
@Addshore - Both Amir and myself have tried to ping @Lydia_Pintscher by
Phabricator and email several times over the last six months to see if she had
any remaining objections to merging https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602412 and
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602422. Neither of us have heard back, so I'm
going to assume that silence means consent in this context. Unless you know
something that we don't, it seems like we should move ahead with these patches,
as there is community consensus in favor of this approach. (See RFC
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Allow_the_creation_of_links_to_redirects_in_Wikidata>
and Wishlist proposal
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021/Wikidata/Link_Wikipedia_redirects_to_Wikidata_items>.)
As I mentioned above <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235420#6256772>, it
seems like Lydia's previous objections have been resolved by the redirect badge
and templates like {{Wikidata redirect}}
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_redirect>. What do you think?
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Liuxinyu970226, Jheald, Alter-paule, Hazizibinmahdi, Beast1978, Un1tY,
Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD,
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T54564: Allow sitelinks to redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem'
kaldari added a comment. Note that this has been made into a proposal at the Community Wishlist Survey: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021/Wikidata/Link_Wikipedia_redirects_to_Wikidata_items TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Tacsipacsi, Ameisenigel, deryckchan, CptViraj, AS, Perhelion, Bovlb, Dvorapa, mxn, dbarratt, Daniel_Mietchen, Amire80, eflyjason, Tom.Reding, Shyamal, Alsee, Capankajsmilyo, Eugene, PokestarFan, ArthurPSmith, Pasleim, StudiesWorld, daniel, Metamorforme42, JEumerus, Harmonia_Amanda, Ash_Crow, DannyH, Agabi10, Choomaq, IKhitron, QZanden, Toto256, Acer, Sylvain_WMFr, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Schlum, TomT0m, Thryduulf, Rich_Farmbrough, Zppix, ChristianKl, Mike_Peel, Wittylama, Liuxinyu970226, SebastianHelm, MisterSynergy, Oliv0, JanusTroelsen, Blahma, MGChecker, MSGJ, Izno, Nnemo, bzimport, DanielFriesen, Gymel, Denny, jeblad, Abraham, SamB, Toru10, Wikidata-bugs, JAnD, Nemo_bis, He7d3r, -jem-, ValterVB, Filceolaire, iecetcwcpggwqpgciazwvzpfjpwomjxn, JanZerebecki, matej_suchanek, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Aklapper, Tgr, kaldari, Laddo, Lydia_Pintscher, Jane023, Ltrlg, JohnLewis, Fomafix, Zellfaze, Akuckartz, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. In T95553#3695730 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553#3695730>, @thiemowmde wrote: > The message for this is https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-time-precision-century/en. We could remove the dot if this makes the situation better. @thiemowmde - Yes, removing the dot would make it look less like an error. "4 century" is slightly better than "4. century". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Verdy_p, Jony, Nikki, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Jc86035, Jarekt, Sylvain_WMFr, Ghouston, Jc3s5h, Larske, VIGNERON, Ayack, matej_suchanek, Hsarrazin, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Sjoerddebruin, Marsupium, PKM, Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Conny, Akuckartz, Dinadineke, DannyS712, Nandana, lucamauri, tabish.shaikh91, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T266830: Set up WikibaseMediaInfo's Lua Scribunto interface to work cross-wiki
kaldari added a project: WikibaseMediaInfo. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T266830 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Aklapper, kaldari, CBogen, Akuckartz, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, Ramsey-WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T266830: Set up WikibaseMediaInfo's Lua Scribunto interface to work cross-wiki
kaldari created this task. kaldari added projects: Wikibase-Lua, Structured-Data-Backlog, Structured Data Engineering. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. Restricted Application added a project: Wikidata. TASK DESCRIPTION Here's my use case... On English Wikipedia we need a template to dynamically add a file page link to an audio file link based on the license of the audio file (specifically whether or not it requires attribution). Right now, this isn't possible, so we have to add an explicit "attribution=no" parameter to every template call for a CC0 audio file. It would be so nice if this could just work automatically. Proposed solution: Set up a light version of WikibaseMediaInfo on all the Wikipedias that just implements the Lua Scribunto interface and provides access to the structured data on Commons from within Wikipedia Modules. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T266830 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Aklapper, kaldari, CBogen, Akuckartz, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, Ramsey-WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T257938: License type filter for media search
kaldari merged a task: T266812: Add license drop down to Special:MediaSearch. kaldari added subscribers: kaldari, Ramsey-WMF. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257938 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Cparle, kaldari Cc: Ramsey-WMF, kaldari, JeanFred, AnneT, dcausse, Multichill, EBernhardson, matthiasmullie, mwilliams, Aklapper, CBogen, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Kent7301, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, JKSTNK, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Af420, E1presidente, Cparle, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Silverfish, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T248457: Fully terminate use of Wikidata item descriptions as short article descriptions for English Wikipedia articles
kaldari added a comment. @TheDJ @Tgr - It seems that most of the work currently being done in relation to this is at T259617 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259617> and associated subtasks. Not sure why those aren't connected here though. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248457 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: mdaniels5757, TheDJ, eprodromou, Pigsonthewing, GhostInTheMachine, Iniquity, DannyH, ppelberg, MichaelMaggs, Dreamy_Jazz, Majavah, kaldari, Certes, Xeriphas1994, Mathglot, Bencemac, Galobtter, Tgr, Trialpears, Jonesey95, RexxS, QEDK, Pppery, Lydia_Pintscher, JJMC89, DannyS712, Aklapper, Alsee, Liuxinyu970226, Naike, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T259617: Local Description API
kaldari added a comment. @eprodromou - We already have an API for retrieving the description, whether local or central (`action=query=description`). Why would we create a separate API just for local descriptions? And what does "managing" local descriptions mean? The editing component seems to be covered in T257944 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257944>. It would be great if this task explained the context, motivation, and end result desired, as right now this task is completely opaque to an outsider. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259617 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: eprodromou, kaldari Cc: kaldari, Pchelolo, daniel, Aklapper, eprodromou, Naike, NavinRizwi, Akuckartz, apaskulin, darthmon_wmde, DannyS712, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Xinbenlv, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dinoguy1000, Mbch331, Rxy ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T248457: Fully terminate use of Wikidata item descriptions as short article descriptions for English Wikipedia articles
kaldari added a comment. @Iniquity - Your continued arguments here are inappropriate and disruptive. Please stop. We have already agreed to implement this change at the request of the English Wikipedia community. If you have concerns about the merits of this change, please take them to that community and present your case there. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248457 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: eprodromou, Pigsonthewing, GhostInTheMachine, Iniquity, DannyH, ppelberg, MichaelMaggs, Dreamy_Jazz, Majavah, kaldari, Certes, Xeriphas1994, Mathglot, Bencemac, Galobtter, Tgr, Trialpears, Jonesey95, RexxS, QEDK, Pppery, Lydia_Pintscher, JJMC89, DannyS712, Aklapper, Alsee, Liuxinyu970226, Naike, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T248457: Fully terminate use of Wikidata item descriptions as short article descriptions for English Wikipedia articles
kaldari added a comment. > There is not about local consensus of enwiki, they can do whatever they want, it's about how the developers and the fond implement the integration with wikidata and between all projects. Nothing will change regarding the Wikidata integration for other projects (besides English Wikipedia). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248457 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: eprodromou, Pigsonthewing, GhostInTheMachine, Iniquity, DannyH, ppelberg, MichaelMaggs, Dreamy_Jazz, Majavah, kaldari, Certes, Xeriphas1994, Mathglot, Bencemac, Galobtter, Tgr, Trialpears, Jonesey95, RexxS, QEDK, Pppery, Lydia_Pintscher, JJMC89, DannyS712, Aklapper, Alsee, Liuxinyu970226, Naike, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T248457: Fully terminate use of Wikidata item descriptions as short article descriptions for English Wikipedia articles
kaldari added projects: Platform Engineering, Platform Team Workboards (Platform-Product Roadmap). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248457 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Pigsonthewing, GhostInTheMachine, Iniquity, DannyH, ppelberg, MichaelMaggs, Dreamy_Jazz, Majavah, kaldari, Certes, Xeriphas1994, Mathglot, Bencemac, Galobtter, Tgr, Trialpears, Jonesey95, RexxS, QEDK, Pppery, Lydia_Pintscher, JJMC89, DannyS712, Aklapper, Alsee, Liuxinyu970226, Naike, Akuckartz, eprodromou, darthmon_wmde, WDoranWMF, holger.knust, EvanProdromou, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Pchelolo, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T248457: Fully terminate use of Wikidata item descriptions as short article descriptions for English Wikipedia articles
kaldari added a comment. Can we please stop rehashing the RFC here? If there is difference of opinion on the merits of this change, please seek consensus on Wikipedia, not here. Arguing here only wastes the time of everyone involved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248457 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Pigsonthewing, GhostInTheMachine, Iniquity, DannyH, ppelberg, MichaelMaggs, Dreamy_Jazz, Majavah, kaldari, Certes, Xeriphas1994, Mathglot, Bencemac, Galobtter, Tgr, Trialpears, Jonesey95, RexxS, QEDK, Pppery, Lydia_Pintscher, JJMC89, DannyS712, Aklapper, Alsee, Liuxinyu970226, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T97566: Provide another way to surface usage instructions besides tacking them onto descriptions
kaldari added a comment. @Pfps - I think the main blocker at this point is T140131 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140131>, which is unassigned and hasn't had any comments since 2017. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: CamelCaseNick, Pfps, WMDE-leszek, DarTar, Jc86035, Amire80, Daniel_Mietchen, Mahir256, Nikki, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Eloquence, Liuxinyu970226, StudiesWorld, Smalyshev, Ricordisamoa, Wwes, jeremyb, thiemowmde, MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, daniel, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T248457: Fully terminate use of Wikidata item descriptions as short article descriptions for English Wikipedia articles
kaldari added a comment. @Iniquity - There are other issues as well. For example, the Wikidata community's insistence that Wikidata descriptions are primarily for disambiguation on Wikidata and not intended for other use cases. This is why we have Wikidata descriptions like: one of two or more individuals having at least one parent in common. Avoid using with "relative" (P1038), use "sibling" (P3373) instead ... which are unusable anywhere besides Wikidata. Hopefully, this will one day be alleviated via T97566 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566>, however. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248457 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Iniquity, DannyH, ppelberg, MichaelMaggs, Dreamy_Jazz, Majavah, kaldari, Certes, Xeriphas1994, Mathglot, Bencemac, Galobtter, Tgr, Trialpears, Jonesey95, RexxS, QEDK, Pppery, Lydia_Pintscher, JJMC89, DannyS712, Aklapper, Alsee, Liuxinyu970226, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages
kaldari added a comment. > This will solve T54564 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564>? @Eugene - If you mean this specific task, no. If you mean Ladsgroup's patch discussed above, yes. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235420 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Ladsgroup, kaldari Cc: kaldari, Eugene, Naseweis520, DemonDays64, DannyS712, Ladsgroup, Gamaliel, Fuzheado, ItamarWMDE, JAnD, Hsarrazin, deryckchan, agray, Lydia_Pintscher, MisterSynergy, Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, Jheald, Alter-paule, Hazizibinmahdi, Beast1978, Un1tY, Hook696, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Bsandipan, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages
kaldari added a comment.
For context, Wikidata now has over 85,000 sitelinks to redirects on English
Wikipedia alone
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_connected_to_a_Wikidata_item>.
Of those, at least 27,000 are intentional
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_redirects> (to deal with the
'Bonnie and Clyde problem'). Perhaps it's time that we stop forcing people to
use the workaround and accept that allowing sitelinks to redirects hasn't
broken Wikidata and in fact is a good idea. The main objection that
@Lydia_Pintscher and others raised at the RFC was that "it isn't clear how to
keep the 'good' ones apart from the 'bad' ones", but the badging system (and
existing templates like {{Wikidata redirect}}
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_redirect>) provide a solution
to that problem. I support merging @Ladsgroup's patch
<https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/602422/>
and hope others will consider it with an open mind.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T54564: Allow sitelinks to redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem'
kaldari updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Ameisenigel, deryckchan, CptViraj, AS, Perhelion, Bovlb, Dvorapa, mxn, dbarratt, Daniel_Mietchen, Amire80, eflyjason, Tom.Reding, Shyamal, Alsee, Capankajsmilyo, Eugene, PokestarFan, ArthurPSmith, Pasleim, StudiesWorld, daniel, Metamorforme42, JEumerus, Harmonia_Amanda, Ash_Crow, DannyH, Agabi10, Choomaq, IKhitron, QZanden, Toto256, Acer, Sylvain_WMFr, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Schlum, TomT0m, Thryduulf, Rich_Farmbrough, Zppix, ChristianKl, Mike_Peel, Wittylama, Liuxinyu970226, SebastianHelm, MisterSynergy, Oliv0, JanusTroelsen, Blahma, MGChecker, MSGJ, Izno, Nnemo, bzimport, DanielFriesen, Gymel, Denny, jeblad, Abraham, SamB, Toru10, Wikidata-bugs, JAnD, Nemo_bis, He7d3r, -jem-, ValterVB, Filceolaire, iecetcwcpggwqpgciazwvzpfjpwomjxn, JanZerebecki, matej_suchanek, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Aklapper, Tgr, kaldari, Laddo, Lydia_Pintscher, Jane023, Ltrlg, JohnLewis, Fomafix, Zellfaze, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T248457: Fully terminate use of Wikidata item descriptions as short article descriptions for English Wikipedia articles
kaldari added a comment. Since the only wikis using `$wgWikibaseAllowLocalShortDesc` are English Wikipedia and Test Wikipedia, I think we should just repurpose that config variable rather than creating a new one. To implement this change, we'll probably need to do some refactoring in `client/includes/Store/DescriptionLookup.php` and `client/includes/Api/Description.php` and update all the associated tests (within the Wikibase extension). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248457 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: kaldari, Certes, Xeriphas1994, Mathglot, Bencemac, Galobtter, Tgr, Trialpears, Jonesey95, RexxS, QEDK, Pppery, Lydia_Pintscher, Mike_Peel, JJMC89, DannyS712, Aklapper, Alsee, Liuxinyu970226, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Merged] T252079: mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang('Q1', 'en') returning nil today
kaldari merged a task: T252139: return of the infamous bug that displays QID instead of labels. kaldari added subscribers: Hsarrazin, kaldari, RhinosF1, Fralambert, Lyokoi, VIGNERON. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252079 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Addshore, kaldari Cc: VIGNERON, Lyokoi, Fralambert, RhinosF1, kaldari, Hsarrazin, Vriullop, Husky, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Addshore, Mike_Peel, WMDE-leszek, Ladsgroup, brennen, Dominicbm, Mholloway, WilliamGraham, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, matej_suchanek, Jarekt, Blissjay007, Oblanco79, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Hook696, Daryl-TTMG, RomaAmorRoma, E.S.A-Sheild, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, Kent7301, alaa_wmde, Meekrab2012, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, lucamauri, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, WSH1906, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T252139: return of the infamous bug that displays QID instead of labels
kaldari closed this task as a duplicate of T252079: mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang(Q1,en) returning nil today. Restricted Application removed a subscriber: Liuxinyu970226. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252139 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: kaldari, Lydia_Pintscher, Addshore, RhinosF1, Fralambert, Lyokoi, VIGNERON, Hsarrazin, Aklapper, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Liuxinyu970226 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T252165: Pulling Wikidata labels via Lua failing
kaldari updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252165 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, kaldari, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, SundanceRaphael, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dinoguy1000, jayvdb, MrStradivarius, Anomie, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T252165: Pulling Wikidata labels via Lua failing
kaldari added a project: MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252165 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, kaldari, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, SundanceRaphael, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dinoguy1000, jayvdb, MrStradivarius, Anomie, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T252165: Pulling Wikidata labels via Lua failing
kaldari updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252165 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, kaldari, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T252165: Pulling Wikidata labels via Lua failing
kaldari triaged this task as "Unbreak Now!" priority. kaldari added a comment. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Liuxinyu970226. Marking Unbreak Now since this is widely affecting actual project content. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252165 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, kaldari, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T252165: Pulling Wikidata labels via Lua failing
kaldari created this task. kaldari added a project: Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION There seem to be hundreds (thousands?) of cases on different wikis today of Lua failing to pull Wikidata labels. AFAICT, the Lua module was previously pulling the labels successfully and nothing about the related Wikidata items had changed recently (including the labels). This seems to be affecting labels for both items and properties. Some examples: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Hjfocs/soweego_2 F31807036: Screen Shot 2020-05-07 at 3.59.20 PM.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F31807036> This error is showing up all over English Wikisource (which I'll try to fix shortly): F31807038: Screen Shot 2020-05-07 at 3.55.46 PM.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F31807038> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Elvis_Presley: F31807040: Screen Shot 2020-05-07 at 4.10.29 PM.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F31807040> TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252165 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Aklapper, kaldari, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T69659: TemplateData: TemplateData should have a parameter to support Wikidata
kaldari added a comment. Putnik's problem is common, but should be relatively easy to deal with (per Mvolz). Where we really run into problems is with the reverse situation: where Wikidata properties conflate multiple concepts that may be handled distinctly in Wikipedia infobox parameters. Many Wikidata property are vague or inconsistently used due to Wikidata's fuzzy, must-fit-all-languages ontology. Examples of properties that explicitly conflate distinct concepts: - `P21`: sex or gender (which is also clumsily used to handle transgender status, i.e. "transgender male") - `P61`: discoverer or inventor - `P629`: edition or translation of Examples of properties that are implicitly vague: - `P131`: located in the administrative territorial entity (notice how the South Pole Telescope <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope> is located at "South Pole, Antarctic Treaty area" rather than "South Pole, Antarctica" as it would be if we weren't using Wikidata) - `P171`: parent taxon (which can in practice correspond to any taxon level: genus, tribe, family, etc.) - `P527`: has part - `P642`: of - `P828`: has cause If we go down this road, we're going to be muddying Wikipedia's more-or-less clearly defined infobox parameters with awkward, inconsistent data (or data suggestions) that may not fit a particular language's understanding of a concept or ontology. `P21` is the most likely to cause obvious problems, but I feel like it's only the tip of the iceberg, and we need to consider this carefully before we open up pandora's box. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69659 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: kaldari, Naseweis520, Capankajsmilyo, gerritbot, Samwilson, Mgns, He7d3r, geraki, Amire80, hoo, putnik, Mvolz, Lydia_Pintscher, RexxS, TheDJ, Mike_Peel, Trizek-WMF, Edgars2007, -jem-, IKhitron, eranroz, Aklapper, Multichill, Jdforrester-WMF, Elitre, iecetcwcpggwqpgciazwvzpfjpwomjxn, TrevorParscal, Ricordisamoa, Keegan, Liuxinyu970226, Ltrlg, Blissjay007, Oblanco79, Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Emcmalva, keithbrianpadilla, Hook696, Daryl-TTMG, RomaAmorRoma, E.S.A-Sheild, darthmon_wmde, Saimongoltinio, WikimeSteve, Kent7301, ppelberg, Meekrab2012, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, marcella, Gaboe420, Revansx, OhKayeSierra, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, takidelfin, Lahi, Gq86, Af420, Necroarcano, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, Robinma, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Rafisamra2016, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tal-WMIL, merbst, LawExplorer, WSH1906, Avner, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wess, Dvorapa, _jensen, rosalieper, Tzafrir, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan_m, Jrf, Husun1297, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Swainr, Matanya, Mbch331, Jay8g ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T231269: All API help links should use `Special:MyLanguage`
kaldari moved this task from Needs Review/Feedback to Done on the MediaWiki-extensions-PageAssessments board. Restricted Application added a project: Structured-Data-Backlog. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T231269 WORKBOARD https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1936/ EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: DannyS712, kaldari Cc: JTannerWMF, TheDJ, kostajh, DannyS712, Aklapper, NavinRizwi, CBogen, keithbrianpadilla, Demian, darthmon_wmde, Saimongoltinio, WikimeSteve, ppelberg, Chambersjay, 94rain, Nandana, Lens0021, aezell, ElanHR, marcella, Revansx, Jony, OhKayeSierra, Amorymeltzer, takidelfin, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, Xinbenlv, Vacio, Ramsey-WMF, mojoaxel, Necroarcano, Robinma, GoranSMilovanovic, Fz-29, 45Jayjay1969, QZanden, EBjune, EnricoCNC, merbst, LawExplorer, Framawiki, JJMC89, Wess, B20180, Dvorapa, _jensen, rosalieper, Mkdw, D3r1ck01, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan_m, Samwilson, SBisson, notconfusing, Luke081515, Nakon, Jrf, Husun1297, MusikAnimal, Niharika, Fhocutt, Wikidata-bugs, Mooeypoo, aude, Gryllida, jeblad, Ricordisamoa, Mvolz, brion, -jem-, Swainr, Catrope, Anomie, putnik, Alchimista, He7d3r, MaxSem, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair, Legoktm ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T229593: Correct Wikidata IDs not available from Javascript of Commons categories
kaldari added a comment. Another idea would be to associate the Wikidata ID with the category from the category side. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229593 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Cparle, Lydia_Pintscher, PDrouin-WMF, Aklapper, kaldari, EgbeRef, CBogen, Vaibhav0199, Tinzawoo533, darthmon_wmde, Onmir, DannyS712, Nandana, JKSTNK, Mh-3110, Amorymeltzer, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, enigmaeth, rohitt, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Wugapodes, Silverfish, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Dixtosa, Susannaanas, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T229593: Correct Wikidata IDs not available from Javascript of Commons categories
kaldari added a comment. Any thoughts on this? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229593 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: PDrouin-WMF, Aklapper, kaldari, EgbeRef, CBogen, Vaibhav0199, Tinzawoo533, darthmon_wmde, Onmir, DannyS712, Nandana, JKSTNK, Mh-3110, Amorymeltzer, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, enigmaeth, rohitt, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Wugapodes, Silverfish, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Dixtosa, Susannaanas, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T229593: Correct Wikidata IDs not available from Javascript of Commons categories
kaldari updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229593 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Aklapper, kaldari, Tinzawoo533, darthmon_wmde, Onmir, DannyS712, Nandana, JKSTNK, Mh-3110, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, enigmaeth, rohitt, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Wugapodes, Silverfish, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Morgankevinj, Taiwania_Justo, Dixtosa, Susannaanas, Wong128hk, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata
kaldari added a comment. > This is a problem with the Javascript tools, you probably want to open a separate ticket for that. I created a new ticket here: T229593 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229593> TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: kaldari, Mike_Peel, zhuyifei1999, Ghouston, MisterSynergy, Quiddity, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Josve05a, xcombelle, Dereckson, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, Poyekhali, Acer, darthmon_wmde, DannyS712, Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Wugapodes, Silverfish, _jensen, rosalieper, Morgankevinj, Taiwania_Justo, Susannaanas, Wong128hk, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T229593: Correct Wikidata IDs not available from Javascript of Commons categories
kaldari created this task. kaldari added projects: JavaScript, Wikidata, Commons, MediaWiki-Categories, SDC General, MediaWiki-Interwiki. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION In order to work around the fact that you can't create interwiki links to both Commons categories and gallery pages from a single Wikidata item, people have started creating category items on Wikidata and linking Commons categories to them instead of to the main conceptual items. While this has improved the interwiki links (via some voodoo with the "category's main topic" property), it has made utilizing Wikidata from gadgets, userscripts, and client-side MediaWiki code even more difficult. Now, when I try to utilize the `wgWikibaseItemId` config variable from a category page, for example Category:Pizzas <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pizzas>, I get one of the following results: - Nothing, if the item (e.g. Pizza <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q177>) is linked to the gallery page instead of the category and there is no category item. - A useless item ID for the category item (e.g. Category:Pizzas <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6931672>) which has none of the actual data for the item (e.g. Pizza <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q177>). - The correct Wikidata ID for the corresponding Wikidata item (e.g. Pizza <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q177>). Thus it's impossible to make any effective use of Wikidata from the client-side on Category pages (without making multiple round-trip API queries to Wikidata). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229593 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Aklapper, kaldari, Tinzawoo533, darthmon_wmde, Onmir, DannyS712, Nandana, JKSTNK, Mh-3110, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, enigmaeth, rohitt, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Wugapodes, Silverfish, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Morgankevinj, Taiwania_Justo, Dixtosa, Susannaanas, Wong128hk, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145279: Interwiki links to articles in other projects from Commons categories via Wikidata
kaldari added a comment. > Following from the general switch to using the sitelinks for Commons over the last year... @Mike_Peel - Could you explain this sentence? What is the "general switch"? From my POV, this problem is not fixed, it's actually gotten worse. For example, I can't get access to the Wikidata ID from Javascript within a Category page if: - The category page is interwikilinked from a category item instead of the regular Wikidata item (which seems to be an increasingly common practice). - The Wikidata item is linked to a gallery instead of the category. Just because you can work around this from within Lua, doesn't solve the problem for gadgets and userscripts which need the data available from Javascript (without being delayed by expensive round-trip API queries). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145279 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: kaldari, Mike_Peel, zhuyifei1999, Ghouston, MisterSynergy, Quiddity, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Josve05a, xcombelle, Dereckson, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, Poyekhali, Acer, darthmon_wmde, DannyS712, Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Wugapodes, Silverfish, _jensen, rosalieper, Morgankevinj, Taiwania_Justo, Susannaanas, Wong128hk, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Jackmcbarn, Steinsplitter, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T227504: Console error "Unknown module: wikibase.experts.Lexeme" on File pages in Commons
kaldari updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227504 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Ladsgroup, Liuxinyu970226, kaldari, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, V4switch, LawExplorer, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Wong128hk, Wikidata-bugs, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Fabrice_Florin, Darkdadaah, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T227504: Console error "Unknown module: wikibase.experts.Lexeme" on File pages in Commons
kaldari updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227504 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Ladsgroup, Liuxinyu970226, kaldari, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, V4switch, LawExplorer, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Wong128hk, Wikidata-bugs, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Fabrice_Florin, Darkdadaah, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T227504: Console error "Unknown module: wikibase.experts.Lexeme" on File pages in Commons
kaldari created this task. kaldari added projects: Lexicographical data, Commons, Multimedia. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Liuxinyu970226. Restricted Application added a project: Wikidata. TASK DESCRIPTION I get the following console error on about half of Commons file pages that I visit (in safe mode): Error: Unknown module: wikibase.experts.Lexeme at sortDependencies (load.php?lang=en=startup=scripts=1=1=vector:8) at sortDependencies (load.php?lang=en=startup=scripts=1=1=vector:9) at sortDependencies (load.php?lang=en=startup=scripts=1=1=vector:9) at sortDependencies (load.php?lang=en=startup=scripts=1=1=vector:9) at resolveStubbornly (load.php?lang=en=startup=scripts=1=1=vector:9) at Object.load (load.php?lang=en=startup=scripts=1=1=vector:21) at load.php?lang=en=startup=scripts=1=1=vector:92 at load.php?lang=en=startup=scripts=1=1=vector:92 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227504 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Ladsgroup, Liuxinyu970226, kaldari, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, V4switch, LawExplorer, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Wong128hk, Wikidata-bugs, matthiasmullie, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Fabrice_Florin, Darkdadaah, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Keegan ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T200350: Impossibility to use Ping project on projects over 50 participants
kaldari added a comment. @Aklapper - Somehow this task is in 2 different columns on the same board simultaneously. I can't find any mechanism to remove a task from a column, but not a workboard. Any advice?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: JTannerWMF, Trizek-WMF, MMiller_WMF, kaldari, Dispenser, Daniel_Mietchen, Wostr, Liuxinyu970226, Jklamo, PKM, Mahir256, Yair_rand, Quiddity, Yann, Hsarrazin, Aklapper, kostajh, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Taiwania_Justo, SBisson, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Catrope, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T200350: Impossibility to use Ping project on projects over 50 participants
kaldari added a comment. @Hsarrazin: Typically on other wikis, the way to notify a project of a discussion is to post on the project's talk page.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: kaldari, Dispenser, Daniel_Mietchen, Wostr, Liuxinyu970226, Jklamo, PKM, Mahir256, Yair_rand, Quiddity, Yann, Hsarrazin, Aklapper, kostajh, MMiller_WMF, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, SBisson, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Catrope, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T200350: Impossibility to use Ping project on projects over 50 participants
kaldari added a comment.
I really don't think Echo Notifications are the right solution to this problem. If you need to message more than 50 people at once, you should probably use a mailing list. There's also the Newsletter extension, which is installed on Mediawiki.org and could be installed on Wikidata as well. If neither of those solutions will work, I think we may need to create some new software specifically to address this use case (that is separate from mention notifications). The fact that {{ping project}} uses hidden content is also problematic. Rather than expanding this hack, maybe we need something different.
Regardless, when we had higher ping thresholds before, we got lots of complaints about misuse. The current 50 person threshold is a compromise that was reached over a long period of trial and error and I don't think significantly changing it is a good idea.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200350EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: kaldari, Dispenser, Daniel_Mietchen, Wostr, Liuxinyu970226, Jklamo, PKM, Mahir256, Yair_rand, Quiddity, Yann, Hsarrazin, Aklapper, kostajh, MMiller_WMF, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, RHo, SBisson, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Catrope, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. the word "century" is not compatible with the data model and should not be used anywhere in the user interface. @Jc3s5h: As I've mentioned before, there are separate tickets for discussing both the century data model problem (T73459) and the use of "century" in the interface (T196674). Please stop spamming this ticket with those discussions. This ticket is purely about how to properly localize the century strings.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Jc86035, Jarekt, Sylvain_WMFr, Ghouston, Jc3s5h, Larske, VIGNERON, Ayack, matej_suchanek, Hsarrazin, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Sjoerddebruin, Marsupium, PKM, Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T196674: Stop using "century" and "millennium" in association with Wikidata datetime data
kaldari added a comment. @Ghouston: Thanks for clarifying that!TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196674EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Aklapper, Jc3s5h, Ghouston, kaldari, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. @Jc3s5h: I created a new bug for you here: T196674. Now I respectfully ask that you stop spamming this bug with unrelated discussion. Thank you.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Ghouston, Jc3s5h, Larske, VIGNERON, Ayack, matej_suchanek, Hsarrazin, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Sjoerddebruin, Marsupium, PKM, Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T196674: Stop using "century" and "millennium" in association with Wikidata datetime data
kaldari added a comment. For the record, I don't think this is an actual bug and I support continued use of "century" and "millennium" as they are the most intuitive ways for editors to enter this information. It's also the way that date information is recorded on Commons and it will be important that Wikidata support that for the Structured Data on Commons project.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196674EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Aklapper, Jc3s5h, Ghouston, kaldari, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T196674: Stop using "century" and "millennium" in association with Wikidata datetime data
kaldari created this task.kaldari added a project: Wikidata.Herald added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTIONPer Jc3s5h's comments at T95553, apparently the way that Wikidata stores and displays datetime data doesn't cleanly map to centuries and millenniums. Ghouston has suggested using "20XX" or "2000-2099" instead of "X. century". This is also related to T73459 (and might be considered a duplicate of that).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196674EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Aklapper, Jc3s5h, Ghouston, kaldari, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. @Jc3s5h: This bug has nothing to do with accurately expressing ranges. This bug is about the fact that "5. century" is not valid English and is confusing to English speakers and should be changed to "5th century" (or if that's too hard, "5 century"). If the word "century" is abandoned, then this bug is moot, but that doesn't mean that this is the right place to talk about accurately representing 100-year ranges.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Ghouston, Jc3s5h, Larske, VIGNERON, Ayack, matej_suchanek, Hsarrazin, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Sjoerddebruin, Marsupium, PKM, Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. It looks like y'all are actually discussing T73459, so please feel free to continue there.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Ghouston, Jc3s5h, Larske, VIGNERON, Ayack, matej_suchanek, Hsarrazin, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Sjoerddebruin, Marsupium, PKM, Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. Can y'all please open separate bugs for these other issues and not just dump them all in this bug? Thanks.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Ghouston, Jc3s5h, Larske, VIGNERON, Ayack, matej_suchanek, Hsarrazin, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Sjoerddebruin, Marsupium, PKM, Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T189596: Run deleteAutopatrolLogs script for Wikidata (WMF)
kaldari added a comment. @Ladsgroup: Can this be closed now?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189596EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Ladsgroup, kaldariCc: kaldari, gerritbot, Stashbot, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Aklapper, Ladsgroup, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, lisong, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dcljr, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T188502: Implement multilingual captions in UploadWizard
kaldari added a comment.
Here are my impressions as a Beta Tester...
Personal background for context: Long-time Commons user and administrator (over 2,000 file uploads and 17,000 edits on Commons), also helped write the UploadWizard (sorry!)
The UI looks good and seems to work great (I tried adding multiple languages and copying them).
I was totally confused though as to what a "caption" was. In Wikipedia, a caption is always a description of an image in the context of an article. Since there is no article context in the Upload Wizard, I had no idea what to actually write as a caption. The instructions offered, "Add a brief caption of the file.", don't help to explain it. Once the uploading process was complete, I didn't see the captions that I wrote anywhere, which was also confusing. After a bit of clicking around, I figured out that the captions were actually used as Wikibase labels. I'm wondering if "caption" is the word we actually want to use here. Maybe "label" or "short description" would be better? Since I'm not sure what the actual intended purpose of these Wikibase labels is, I'm not sure what suggestion would be best.
Another thing that was slightly confusing was the instructions for the description field: "Describe what is notable about the file." I realize this is just a shortened version of the old help text ("Briefly describe everything notable about the work. For a photo, mention the main things that are depicted, the occasion, or the place."), but I feel like the overall gist of the instructions has been lost.
Keep up the great work!TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188502EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: matthiasmullie, kaldariCc: kaldari, matmarex, Base, Cparle, Ramsey-WMF, PDrouin-WMF, gerritbot, matthiasmullie, Aklapper, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, E1presidente, Darkminds3113, Sksvdbvd, SandraF_WMF, Youssefalli1, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, V4switch, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Susannaanas, Wong128hk, Aschroet, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, PKM, aude, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Fabrice_Florin, Raymond, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T49415: excessive autopatrol log entries on wikidata
kaldari updated the task description. (Show Details) CHANGES TO TASK DESCRIPTION...If there is some compelling reason for having this patrol setup, then it should at least be documented in giant letters someplace obvious. -- **Version**: master **Severity**: normal **See Also**: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17237See also: T19237 **Update:** The wikidata logging table is now up to 606,370,402 rows, as of January 2018.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49415EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: kaldari, Ricordisamoa, Wikidata-bugs, Jdforrester-WMF, Abraham, Legoktm, Krinkle, aude, ArielGlenn, MZMcBride, Parent5446, jeremyb, daniel, Unknown Object (MLST), Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. Anyway, I'm happy to help work on this. I just wanted to see if it's OK to move forward or if it needs more discussion. Didn't mean to start an argument :)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. However, I kindly ask you to watch your tone. Sorry, I legitimately did not intend to express any rudeness. To me, "15. century" is nonsense. I would not guess that it meant "15th century" without context. When I first saw examples of this I thought it was some kind of date parsing bug. I guess the more important issue is that non-German speakers cannot enter century and millenium values into claims as it will only allow you to publish them if you use the German notation. Neither do we only support 1 language I meant specifically for the century and millenium notation. Are there other languages that use the dot notation? Sorry for my ignorance. I wasn't trying to be rude.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. What difference does this make for you, or for anybody else? The values are nonsense to anyone who doesn't read German. The concern I do have with utilizing PHPs build-in NumberFormatter (http://php.net/manual/en/class.numberformatter.php) is that it might not be suitable for all languages we need to support. Understood, but right now, we only support 1 language. Surely 85 languages is an improvement.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. @thiemowmde: Does this still need further discussion or investigation, or can it be moved to "ready to go" now?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Liuxinyu970226, TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T49415: excessive autopatrol log entries on wikidata
kaldari renamed this task from "creation of new claims (and perhaps other edits) can be (auto)patrolled on wikidata" to "excessive autopatrol log entries on wikidata". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49415EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: kaldari, Ricordisamoa, Wikidata-bugs, Jdforrester-WMF, Abraham, Legoktm, Krinkle, aude, ArielGlenn, MZMcBride, Parent5446, jeremyb, daniel, Unknown Object (MLST), Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reopened] T49415: creation of new claims (and perhaps other edits) can be (auto)patrolled on wikidata
kaldari reopened this task as "Open".kaldari added a comment. Reopening this. We merged a new config variable (4 years ago) to let us turn off autopatrol logging on Wikidata, but we never actually turned it off, AFAICT. The logging table on wikidata now has over 600 million entries and we can't add new logging functionality (T12331) for fear of making it worse. The decision to move patrolling records from recentchanges to revision may or may not be a good idea, but it's been 3 years since folks signed off on that and we haven't done it yet. There also doesn't seem to be much momentum on making all the other changes to revision that have been proposed (T161671), so I'm guessing this isn't going to happen any time soon. At this point, we need to fish or cut bait rather than letting our tech debt block needed improvements. My suggestion would be to finish what we started and turn off autopatrol logging on wikidata (and possibly commons which is also ballooning). While it's true that one day we may move the patrol flag from recentchanges to revision and may lament that we can't backfill all the records, it's also possible that this won't happen for years (or ever) or that no one will care that all the gazillion patrol records from long ago can't be backfilled into revision (I know I won't). Thoughts?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49415EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: kaldari, Ricordisamoa, Wikidata-bugs, Jdforrester-WMF, Abraham, Legoktm, Krinkle, aude, ArielGlenn, MZMcBride, Parent5446, jeremyb, daniel, Unknown Object (MLST), Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. So in other words, we should change it to $1 century, and eventually pass $nunberFormatter->format( $number ) as the parameter (instead of just $number).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari added a comment. CLDR has mappings for ordinal numbers in at least 85 languages. I'm pretty sure that's what the PHP intl library is using.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: TheDJ, Lydia_Pintscher, kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English
kaldari renamed this task from "Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is not needed in English" to "Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is incorrect in English". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_Pintscher, kaldariCc: kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is not needed in English
kaldari removed a project: Patch-For-Review. TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_Pintscher, kaldariCc: kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reopened] T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is not needed in English
kaldari reopened this task as "Open".kaldari added a comment. This bug still seems to be present on Wikidata. For example, at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q28790416 I see "1. millennium", "6. century", "7. century" (with my language set to English). In English, this format doesn't make any sense and looks like an error. It should say "1st millennium", "6th century", "7th century", etc. As Daniel mentioned, "5 August" is fine in English. "5 century", however, is never correct.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95553EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_Pintscher, kaldariCc: kaldari, Ricordisamoa, daniel, thiemowmde, Lucie, Amire80, Aklapper, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Wikidata-bugs, JulesWinnfield-hu, Addshore, Conny, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T87764: Bugs related to time datatype (tracking)
kaldari reopened subtask T95553: Full stop in messages such as Wikibase-time-precision-century is not needed in English as "Open". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87764EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: PokestarFan, T.seppelt, Agabi10, Ricordisamoa, Conny, Rical, Liuxinyu970226, JulesWinnfield-hu, Wikidata-bugs, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Aklapper, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T141877: Update Multi-Content-Revision design document, and move it to mw.org
kaldari added a comment. @daniel: Since this task is finished and the page hasn't been touched in a few months, does that mean that it's no longer a draft? i.e. Is that the plan that we are moving forward with?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141877EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: daniel, kaldariCc: kaldari, brion, Jdforrester-WMF, Aklapper, GWicke, cscott, Tgr, TomT0m, RobLa-WMF, daniel, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T166215: Fix eslint issues in PropertySuggester
kaldari closed this task as "Resolved". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166215EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: dbarratt, kaldariCc: gerritbot, dbarratt, TerraCodes, thiemowmde, Aklapper, Ladsgroup, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Soteriaspace, Th3d3v1ls, JakeTheDeveloper, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Framawiki, Lewizho99, JJMC89, Maathavan, Abbe98, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T72209: [Task] Create a special page to query for badges
kaldari closed this task as "Resolved".kaldari added a comment. Ooooh!TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72209EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Bene, kaldariCc: kaldari, daniel, Jonas, Aklapper, Kopiersperre, jayvdb, Opraco, putnik, AlessioMela, Horcrux92, ValterVB, Rotpunkt, Bultro, Incola, Billinghurst, Magioladitis, Wikidata-bugs, Bene, He7d3r, Qgil, Ricordisamoa, Jbribeiro1, Ladsgroup, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, Ltrlg, D3r1ck01, Samtar, Johan, Izno, Luke081515, aude, TheDJ, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
kaldari closed subtask T72209: [Task] Create a special page to query for badges as "Resolved". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Ptolusque, mschwarzer, Sethakill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reopened] T72209: [Task] Create a special page to query for badges
kaldari reopened this task as "Open".kaldari added a comment. The page doesn't work for me. All the options return zero results: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:PagesWithBadges?badge=Q17437796TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72209EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Bene, kaldariCc: kaldari, daniel, Jonas, Aklapper, Kopiersperre, jayvdb, Opraco, putnik, AlessioMela, Horcrux92, ValterVB, Rotpunkt, Bultro, Incola, Billinghurst, Magioladitis, Wikidata-bugs, Bene, He7d3r, Qgil, Ricordisamoa, Jbribeiro1, Ladsgroup, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, Ltrlg, D3r1ck01, Samtar, Johan, Izno, Luke081515, aude, TheDJ, Mbch331, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)
kaldari reopened subtask T72209: [Task] Create a special page to query for badges as "Open". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96040EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Luke081515, Liuxinyu970226, aude, Aklapper, Ptolusque, mschwarzer, Sethakill, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T110838: [Story] As a user I want to see all pages on a wiki having a specific badge assigned
kaldari reopened subtask T72209: [Task] Create a special page to query for badges as "Open". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110838EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_Pintscher, kaldariCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Ricordisamoa, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T148357: Property parser function should return nothing for novalue snaktypes
kaldari added a comment. We should expect that a naive user will want everything that Wikidata knows. If that were true, there would be examples of uses that actually checked for "no value", which I've never seen. To which users are you referring, out of curiosity? I'm referring to users of English Wikipedia. As you can see from this search result, existing uses of the Property parser function there generally assume that it will return an actual value (and sometimes even assume it is a linkable value).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148357EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Izno, hoo, matej_suchanek, Pigsonthewing, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, D3r1ck01, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T148357: Property parser function should return nothing for novalue snaktypes
kaldari added a comment.
@matej_suchanek: That's definitely a possibility in theory, but in practice everyone seems to assume that {{#Property}} either returns an actual value or nothing.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148357EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: hoo, matej_suchanek, Pigsonthewing, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T148357: Property parser function should return nothing for novalue snaktypes
kaldari added a comment. @Lydia_Pintscher: That's fine with me. Let's just change the "no value" behavior for now.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148357EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Pigsonthewing, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T148357: Property parser function should return nothing for novalue snaktypes
kaldari created this task.kaldari added a project: MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient.Herald added a subscriber: Aklapper.Herald added a project: Wikidata.
TASK DESCRIPTIONCurrently there are lots of templates on English Wikipedia that use infobox code similar to:
{{#if:{{#Property:P17}}|...
... or ...
XYZ = {{#Property:P43356}}
... which works great in most circumstances. However, in cases where a property is set to "no value" (as the snak type), calls to the {{#Property}} parser function actually return the string "no value". This causes "no value" to get output to the Infobox. It would be better if it returned nothing (i.e. an empty string or null value) in these cases, so that #if statements could work properly and "no value" is never output to the user. This should probably be the case for "unknown value" claims as well.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148357EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Aklapper, kaldari, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T120451: Allow categories in Commons in all languages
kaldari closed subtask T121731: Investigation: Assistance with structured data on Commons as "Resolved". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120451EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Antanana, Blahma, JAnD, El_Grafo, Pokefan95, Ricordisamoa, Achim55, zhuyifei1999, AFBorchert, Liuxinyu970226, Jarekt, JEumerus, Johan, daniel, Trizek-WMF, Shizhao, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Steinsplitter, StudiesWorld, DannyH, D3r1ck01, Izno, Psychoslave, Nakon, MusikAnimal, Niharika, Fhocutt, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, -jem-, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g, Krenair___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T97566: Provide another way to surface usage instructions besides tacking them onto descriptions
kaldari created subtask T140131: Show text from Wikidata usage instructions property (P2559) when auto-suggesting properties or items. TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: StudiesWorld, Smalyshev, Ricordisamoa, Wwes, jeremyb, thiemowmde, MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, D3r1ck01, Izno, Mholloway, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T140131: Show text from Wikidata usage instructions property (P2559) when auto-suggesting properties or items
kaldari created this task.kaldari added projects: Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository.Herald added a subscriber: Zppix. TASK DESCRIPTIONPer T97566, we need a feature that displays the text in the Wikidata usage instructions property (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2559) when a Wikidata editor gets auto-suggestions for properties or items.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140131EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Zppix, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Mhurd, Deskana, Tfinc, Pigsonthewing, Jdforrester-WMF, Filceolaire, Tbayer, Yair_rand, Moushira, Thryduulf, JKatzWMF, aude, MGChecker, thiemowmde, jeremyb, Wwes, Ricordisamoa, Smalyshev, StudiesWorld, kaldari, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T97566: Provide another way to surface usage instructions besides tacking them onto descriptions
kaldari changed the title from "Add an instruction field for Wikidata items" to "Provide another way to surface usage instructions besides tacking them onto descriptions". TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: StudiesWorld, Smalyshev, Ricordisamoa, Wwes, jeremyb, thiemowmde, MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, D3r1ck01, Izno, Mholloway, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items
kaldari added a comment. The Wikidata usage instructions property has been approved and is now being used (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2559). Once there is a feature to surface this property when adding new statements, we will then be able to remove the usage instructions from the descriptions.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: StudiesWorld, Smalyshev, Ricordisamoa, Wwes, jeremyb, thiemowmde, MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, D3r1ck01, Izno, Mholloway, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T105623: [Task] Investigate quantification of quantity precision (+/- 1 or +/- 0.5)
kaldari added a comment.Did we ever figure out a way forward on this?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Srittau, Edgars2007, Yellowcard, Jonas, JanZerebecki, harej-NIOSH, Thryduulf, Mike_Peel, Jc3s5h, thiemowmde, kaldari, daniel, Stryn, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Snipre, Event, Ash_Crow, mgrabovsky, Micru, Denny, He7d3r, Bene, Wikidata-bugs, Ricordisamoa, Kelson, MSGJ, Wolfvoll, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T54564: Allow sitelinks to redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem'
kaldari added a comment. @Rich_Farmbrough: So basically you are suggesting that we allow an individual MediaWiki page to be associated with multiple Wikidata items. @Lydia_Pintscher: What is the feasibility of that? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Rich_Farmbrough, Zppix, ChristianKl, Mike_Peel, Wittylama, Liuxinyu970226, SebastianHelm, MisterSynergy, Oliv0, JanusTroelsen, Blahma, MGChecker, MSGJ, Izno, Nnemo, bzimport, Unknown Object (MLST), DanielFriesen, Gymel, Denny, jeblad, Abraham, Addshore, SamB, Toru10, Wikidata-bugs, JAnD, Nemo_bis, He7d3r, -jem-, ValterVB, Filceolaire, Micru, JanZerebecki, matej_suchanek, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Aklapper, Tgr, kaldari, Laddo, Lydia_Pintscher, Jane023, Ltrlg, JohnLewis, Fomafix, Zellfaze, D3r1ck01, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T127929: [Story] Add a new datatype for linking to creators of artwork and more (smart URI)
kaldari edited the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127929 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Sadads, Pokefan95, gerritbot, DannyH, Micru, intracer, mkroetzsch, Aklapper, daniel, Steinsplitter, Lydia_Pintscher, Riley_Huntley, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, El_Grafo, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T54564: Allow sitelinks to redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem'
kaldari added a comment. I don't think Izno's solution will be practical due to caching issues. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: SebastianHelm, MisterSynergy, Oliv0, JanusTroelsen, Blahma, MGChecker, MSGJ, Izno, Nnemo, bzimport, Unknown Object (MLST), DanielFriesen, Gymel, Denny, jeblad, Abraham, Addshore, SamB, Toru10, Wikidata-bugs, JAnD, Nemo_bis, He7d3r, -jem-, ValterVB, Filceolaire, Micru, JanZerebecki, matej_suchanek, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Aklapper, Tgr, kaldari, Laddo, Lydia_Pintscher, Jane023, Ltrlg, JohnLewis, Fomafix, Zellfaze, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items
kaldari added a comment. @Lydia_Pintscher: That's great to hear. Any solution is better than what we have now. So what's the next step? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: StudiesWorld, Smalyshev, Ricordisamoa, Wwes, jeremyb, thiemowmde, MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T97566: Add an instruction field for Wikidata items
kaldari added a comment. @Smalyshev: According to the query in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103836, the majority of usage instructions are in English (about 280); French has 35; German has 24, and the numbers decline from there. Thus even if we only created a non-localizable field for instructions, it would be adequate for most items (and a big improvement over the way we are doing it now). @Lydia_Pintscher: Where would you suggest that we go from here? The community discussion just went in circles with no movement towards consensus. We now know how many items have usage instructions (a few hundred), so that's no longer a blocker. FWIW, I think there are thousands of items that would benefit from usage instructions, but don't currently have them because there is nowhere to put them (other than the description field). Also, judging by the previous community discussions, it seems that the Wikidata community has no interest in the usefulness of the description field outside of Wikidata itself, thus they have no incentive to try to find a solution. I think WMDE is going to have to lead the way here. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97566 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: StudiesWorld, Smalyshev, Ricordisamoa, Wwes, jeremyb, thiemowmde, MGChecker, aude, JKatzWMF, Thryduulf, Moushira, Yair_rand, Tbayer, Filceolaire, Jdforrester-WMF, Pigsonthewing, Tfinc, Deskana, Mhurd, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, kaldari, Wikidata-bugs, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T117773: Example query "French people with an article on the English Wikipedia but not on the French one" is broken
kaldari created this task.
kaldari added a subscriber: kaldari.
kaldari added a project: Wikidata-Query-Service.
Herald added subscribers: StudiesWorld, Aklapper.
Herald added projects: Wikidata, Discovery.
TASK DESCRIPTION
One of the built-in example queries for the Wikidata Query Service is "French
people with an article on the English Wikipedia but not on the French one".
However when you try to run this query, it gives you an error:
QName 'schema:about' uses an undefined prefix
https://query.wikidata.org/#PREFIX%20wd%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20wdt%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fdirect%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20wikibase%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwikiba.se%2Fontology%23%3E%0APREFIX%20p%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20v%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fstatement%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20q%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fqualifier%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20rdfs%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F01%2Frdf-schema%23%3E%0A%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%28COUNT%28distinct%20%3Fsitelink%29%20as%20%3Fcount%29%20WHERE%20{%0A%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20.%0A%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP27%20wd%3AQ142%20.%0A%20%20%20%3Fsitelink%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20.%0A%20%20%20FILTER%20EXISTS%20{%20%3Fwen%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20.%20%3Fwen%20schema%3AinLanguage%20%22en%22%20}%0A%20%20%20FILTER%20NOT%20EXISTS%20{%20%3Fwfr%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fitem%20.%20%3Fwfr%20schema%3
AinLanguage%20%22fr%22%20}%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20{%0A%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22fr%2Cen%22%20.%0A%20%20}%0A%20}%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20ORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3Fcount%29
TASK DETAIL
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117773
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Cc: Aklapper, StudiesWorld, kaldari, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs,
Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType
kaldari added a comment. > Note btw that "population" is a natural number count but should *not* default > to exact values, but apply the +/-1 rule. This doesn't make sense to me. A population count is a count, not a measurement. It doesn't have uncertainty. It will never be converted to other units. It may be totally wrong, but that's different than measurement uncertainty/precision. Even if it is an estimate, the estimate is still a specific number, unless an uncertainty is provided. I would strongly argue that a population should be considered an "amount" or "number", rather than a quantity with precision. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Tobias1984, Aklapper, Jc3s5h, Denny, Stryn, Mbch331, Sjoerddebruin, AmaryllisGardener, Izno, Smalyshev, kaldari, Gareth, Ayack, geraki, Bugreporter, DSGalaktos, Wikidata-bugs, SPQRobin, jayvdb, Snaterlicious, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T105623: [Task] Investigate quantification of quantity precision (+/- 1 or +/- 0.5)
kaldari added a comment. @Yellowcard: I agree with you in most cases. Most numbers in Wikidata should probably be considered exact values (per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580) and should not have any assumed uncertainty. Numbers for measurements, however, have to have some assumed uncertainty. I think the problem is that this bug is really conflating several different bugs: 1. The Quantity datatype should probably be an exact value datatype (i.e. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580) 2. There should be a new datatype called Measurement which has units and assumed uncertainty/precision (the current behavior of Quantity) 3. The assumed uncertainty of Measurements should be half the resolution (+/- 0.5 for whole numbers), not equal to the resolution (+/- 1) Would you agree with all of those points? What's your opinion @daniel? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Yellowcard, Jonas, JanZerebecki, harej-NIOSH, Thryduulf, Mike_Peel, Jc3s5h, thiemowmde, kaldari, daniel, Stryn, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Snipre, Event, Ash_Crow, mgrabovsky, Micru, Denny, He7d3r, Bene, Wikidata-bugs, Ricordisamoa, Kelson, MSGJ, Wolfvoll, Aklapper, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T68580: Better support for exact values in Quantity DataType
kaldari added a comment. > Population is never an exact count. It seems to me that most population numbers in Wikidata are census counts, not estimates, although I could be wrong. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: mgrabovsky, Ricordisamoa, Tobias1984, Aklapper, Jc3s5h, Denny, Stryn, Mbch331, Sjoerddebruin, AmaryllisGardener, Izno, Smalyshev, kaldari, Gareth, Ayack, geraki, Bugreporter, DSGalaktos, Wikidata-bugs, SPQRobin, jayvdb, Snaterlicious, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T105623: [Task] Investigate quantification of quantity precision (+/- 1 or +/- 0.5)
kaldari added a comment. @Yellowcard: We have to choose an uncertainty in order to do unit conversion. There's no way around that fact. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Yellowcard, Jonas, JanZerebecki, harej-NIOSH, Thryduulf, Mike_Peel, Jc3s5h, thiemowmde, kaldari, daniel, Stryn, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Snipre, Event, Ash_Crow, mgrabovsky, Micru, Denny, He7d3r, Bene, Wikidata-bugs, Ricordisamoa, Kelson, MSGJ, Wolfvoll, Aklapper, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T105623: [Task] Investigate quantification of quantity precision (+/- 1 or +/- 0.5)
kaldari added a comment. @Yellowcard: > There's nothing against uncertainty, but the default uncertainty for values > that don't have any. I'm especially talking about counting values without any > unit. For counted values, there is another bug, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580, which proposes a new "amount" or "number" datatype. The bug here is for how to correctly handle values that may have uncertainty. This should be more clear once https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580 is resolved. > For what I understand, unit conversation should also be possible without > known uncertainty? Yes, but see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68580#1447999. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Yellowcard, Jonas, JanZerebecki, harej-NIOSH, Thryduulf, Mike_Peel, Jc3s5h, thiemowmde, kaldari, daniel, Stryn, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Snipre, Event, Ash_Crow, mgrabovsky, Micru, Denny, He7d3r, Bene, Wikidata-bugs, Ricordisamoa, Kelson, MSGJ, Wolfvoll, Aklapper, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T105623: [Task] Investigate quantification of quantity precision (+/- 1 or +/- 0.5)
kaldari added a comment. Are we still investigating this or have we reached the conclusion that +/- 0.5 is the most sensible default for rounding and unit conversion? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Jonas, JanZerebecki, harej-NIOSH, Thryduulf, Mike_Peel, Jc3s5h, thiemowmde, kaldari, daniel, Stryn, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Snipre, Event, Ash_Crow, mgrabovsky, Micru, Denny, He7d3r, Bene, Wikidata-bugs, Ricordisamoa, Kelson, MSGJ, Wolfvoll, Aklapper, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T54564: Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem'
kaldari added a comment. @Izno: I'm not sure I completely understand your explanation. Could you provide a theoretical example? Like how would you apply this solution to the "Bonnie and Clyde problem"? How would you apply it to the "hatmaker/hatmaking problem"? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Oliv0, JanusTroelsen, Blahma, MGChecker, MSGJ, Izno, Nnemo, bzimport, Unknown Object (MLST), DanielFriesen, Gymel, Denny, jeblad, Abraham, Addshore, SamB, Toru10, Wikidata-bugs, JAnD, Nemo_bis, He7d3r, -jem-, ValterVB, Filceolaire, Micru, JanZerebecki, matej_suchanek, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Aklapper, Tgr, kaldari, Laddo, Lydia_Pintscher, Jane023, Ltrlg, JohnLewis, Fomafix, Zellfaze, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T54564: Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem'
kaldari added a comment. I haven't heard any ideas about how to solve this with arbitrary access. Could anyone elaborate? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54564 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Oliv0, JanusTroelsen, Blahma, MGChecker, MSGJ, Izno, Nnemo, bzimport, Unknown Object (MLST), DanielFriesen, Gymel, Denny, jeblad, Abraham, Addshore, SamB, Toru10, Wikidata-bugs, JAnD, Nemo_bis, He7d3r, -jem-, ValterVB, Filceolaire, Micru, JanZerebecki, matej_suchanek, Ricordisamoa, MZMcBride, Aklapper, Tgr, kaldari, Laddo, Lydia_Pintscher, Jane023, Ltrlg, JohnLewis, Fomafix, Zellfaze, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T69434: [Task] Make Hovercards work on Wikidata item links
kaldari removed a subscriber: kaldari. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69434 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Bene, kaldari Cc: Jdlrobson, Bdjwiki, gerritbot, pizzzacat, Quiddity, Raymond, Bene, Ricordisamoa, SamB, Aklapper, Se4598, JanZerebecki, Wikidata-bugs, Jdforrester-WMF, Vibhabamba, Prtksxna, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T101104: Make gadget definitions translatable with translate extension
kaldari closed blocking task T110633: Investigation: Creating an i18n framework for gadgets as "Resolved". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101104 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: Ltrlg, Legoktm, Krinkle, Ricordisamoa, matej_suchanek, Mbch331, Sjoerddebruin, Aklapper, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T101719: [EPIC] Push wikidata descriptions to stable.
kaldari added a comment. See also https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91981 (which also hasn't moved in a while). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101719 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: kaldari Cc: JKatzWMF, Lydia_Pintscher, Jdlrobson, kaldari, Aklapper, Moushira, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103836: [Task] get list of all items with usage instructions in description
kaldari added a comment. Just re-ran the query (http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/5414). Currently, it returns 509 descriptions. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103836 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: matej_suchanek, kaldari Cc: kaldari, matej_suchanek, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
