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TASK DESCRIPTION
Create a service which supports complex queries on Wikidata:
- **external
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@manybubbles explained this to Bryan and I, and I'm going to attempt to explain
this as simply as I can:
This is step 1 of 3(?) toward arbitrary list transclusion
(https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49930
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EVENT DESCRIPTION
All Google Summer of Code 2015 and Outreachy Round 10 projects will be
showcased by their developers via IRC. To have an idea of how this showcase
works, check [[
http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20140819.txt | last
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@ottomata: I don't know all of the details, but I think the ID idea is a good
one. One //possible hitch//: according to the W3C, URIs are supposed to be
opaque <http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-opacity>. If you're
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@smalyshev listed this as a nominee for a "must have" in
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119593, and it's currently categorized in
T119029: WikiDev 16 working area: Content access and APIs
<https://phabricator.
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I think there's a risk of second system syndrome
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month#The_second-system_effect>
here in the current proposal. I would start with the question "what's the most
important problem to solve with the current s
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This doesn't seem clear to me, and I think I'm coming to agree with @gwicke's
comment https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119029#1866851 that this is probably
not a good for the summit in its current form. That said
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@cscott, thanks for pinging me, and yes, your proposal to introduce and then
open it up sounds perfect, thanks! Think "lightning talk" for your intro. 5
minutes is ideal, 10 minutes for something more complicated, everyone has a
right to be annoyed if y
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I'm talking in the SF office with @gwicke about this now. He's pointed out
T93396: Decide on format options for HTML and possibly other dumps
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93396> to me, which seems to be stalled
out. Is getting that unstalled re
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RobLa-WMF added a comment.
This is a really cool idea, Yuri! Done correctly, this has the potential for
establishing a de facto standard for how one represents tabular data in JSON.
I'm assuming we're not the first people in the world that have thought of
representing tabular data
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Belated priority update discussed in E187: RFC Meeting: triage meeting
(2016-05-25, #wikimedia-office) <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E187> (see
log at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P3179)
RobLa-WMF added a comment.@Yurik , would you be available to discuss this at the #ArchCom-RFC meeting on IRC this week? E213 has the details (the date and time: 2016-06-15, Wednesday 21:00 UTC (2pm PDT, 23:00 CEST)).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120452EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps
RobLa-WMF added a comment.I'm going to make a note here mainly for myself as shepherd. In E202, I noted I was going to take this off of our weekly action items. There's probably some work that needs to happen to incorporate Daniel's thinking expressed in T102476#2309963 into the document
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@Daniel, my understanding from our previous conversations (and discussions
about a new column on the https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom-rfc/
board) is that this is "on track". As of right now, you're not waiting on
https://phabricator.wikimed
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RobLa-WMF added a comment.
Thanks for the clarification, @daniel! Should we try spinning up a software
engineering working group (per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119032 and
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124504) and delegate this to that group?
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@mobrovac - I'm confused, why don't you think
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120212 is a blocker for this?
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I realize that the blocking relationship is transitive, but given Otto's
comment (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114443#2072426), it would seem that
it would be clearer to make the blocking relationship specific, rather than
obscuring it in a hierarchy. Would
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595#2180530, @Yurik wrote:
> Can we solve some of the proposed usecases by simply wraping "content" into
a higher level structure, e.g. json, to store multiple streams? For example,
for a hypothetical
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Full IRC log of E150: RFC Meeting: Service Locator for MediaWiki core
(2016-03-23, #wikimedia-office) <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E150> is
captured at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2815
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Per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E146
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Per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E146
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From E158: RFC Meeting: Architecture open office (2016-04-06,
#wikimedia-office) <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E158>:
> 21:08:06 <@bd808> I case anyone missed it, the first patch for the
dependency injection/service locator work wa
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On https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E184, @gwicke said "I'm not opposed to
moving the general portion especially to mw.org, lets just make sure we don't
end up with multiple copies" My edits to the description reflect my
understanding of that.
T
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Per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E170 (I'm shepherding this one)
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom/ plans to discuss this next
week in E184: RFC Meeting: RFC: Requirements for change propagation
(2016-05-18, #wikimedia-office) <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E184>
In order to have a productive conver
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We discussed this in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E171 today. Full
notes are https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E171#2016
The summary:
> - question discussed: which backends should InterwikiLookup support?
(robla, 21:10:54)
> - i imagine ever
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@GWicke - I made a conversion of the description to wikitext at
mw:User:RobLa-WMF/T102476
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:RobLa-WMF/T102476>. The next step will be
to convert it into mw.org RFC format. RFCs with long prose seem better to have
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@Daniel nominated this RFC for discussion at next week's ArchCom-RFC meeting
(https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E171), which seemed like a good idea to
everyone at the time. The last RFC meeting we had on this subject was October,
and there's now patch 285018
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In T107595#2462578, @daniel wrote:
Sorry, couldn't make it to the meeting. Let's talk about it next week.
Okee doke, let's add it to the agenda of E234TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel
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My understanding is that @brion and @daniel have been working on this this week. Their work: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/217710/ . I'd like to discuss the state
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@daniel , I've added a stub at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Multi-content_revisions
Could you port the bulk of the prose of this RFC over there?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org
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We discussed this at E227 last week, and @Krinkle suggested a more substantive response to @csteipp's T105638#1515362 review would be helpful.
This also needs a shepherd to move forward
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In T109836#2430843, @Jdlrobson wrote:
@Anomie I see this discussion come up again and again and see this pattern repeat itself in numerous codebases - some are keen to adopt these - others are not. Could I
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This seems worth discu
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In T109836#2433074, @daniel wrote:
We can have this as an ArchCom session, but there was quite a strong consensus when we discussed this in Lyon
The problem that @Jdlrobson correctly identified is that the discussion wasn't captured in a way that we can clearly refer
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On 2016-09-05, @daniel moved the description of this task to mw:Multi-Content_Revisions That page now has many subpages, described in Daniel's recent email to wikitech-l
This is tentatively slated to be discussed in our ArchCom IRC meeting in a couple of weeks (E273
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In T141877#2593812, @daniel wrote:
Work in progress: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multi-Content_Revisions
Great! Getting the RFC moved over should be a simple cut and paste with the fix to T132006 going out today. See https://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org
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In T107595#2667512, @daniel wrote:
I think little of that complexity should be exposed to users. We probably don't want editors to freely mix and match slots - rather, we want an integrated experience for editing and display. Ideally editors should neither know nor
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In T107595#2671264, @daniel wrote:
In T107595#2668520, @RobLa-WMF wrote:
The risk: the more that our data formats become a complex mystery that is only understood by a handful of people, the fewer people that will trust the systems we produce.
Ah, yes, I agree
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In T107595#2674782, @daniel wrote:
To me as a Wikidata developer, the "killer use case" is structured media info, but e.g. James, Mark, or Kaldari may have other priorities. The Wikidata team will provide a brief summary of the requirement and rationale for
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I'm leaving myself marked as the shepherd on the #archcom-has-shepherd board. The role of shepherd is mainly advisory
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In T107595#2666094, @Alsee wrote:
Did anyone consider that it might be a bad idea to start building a radical change to the editing environment without investigating whether the editing community wants this?
Each of the use cases have had quite a bit of discussion
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