Re: [Wikidata-l] datawikis?

2012-04-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, First things first ... that is getting Wikidata to work for its initial purposes. Automated updates from elsewhere are nice but introduce a complete new set of issues including reliability. Thanks, Gerard On 9 April 2012 03:25, JFC Morfin jef...@jefsey.com wrote: Is there an objection

[Wikidata-l] Engine of Wikidata

2012-04-09 Thread Soslan Khubulov
Hello! What about the engine of Wikidata? Do you think MediaWiki is good for structured data? I think MediaWiki should be greatly modified at least to be proper engine for Wikidata. The best thing would be to create new engine specially for structured data. It would be also better for

Re: [Wikidata-l] Engine of Wikidata

2012-04-09 Thread JFC Morfin
At 11:55 09/04/2012, Soslan Khubulov wrote: The best thing would be to create new engine specially for structured data. It would be also better for Wikitionary. Just remember what was Mediawiki created for. Storing marked up text pages. Mediawiki is good for encyclopedia but not for Wikitionary

Re: [Wikidata-l] Engine of Wikidata

2012-04-09 Thread JFC Morfin
At 11:55 09/04/2012, Soslan Khubulov wrote: The best thing would be to create new engine specially for structured data. It would be also better for Wikitionary. Just remember what was Mediawiki created for. Storing marked up text pages. Mediawiki is good for encyclopedia but not for Wikitionary

Re: [Wikidata-l] datawikis?

2012-04-09 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/8/12 9:25 PM, JFC Morfin wrote: Is there an objection to the concept of, or cooperation with, datawiki Wikidata compatible projects? I would define a datawiki (as there are databases) as a JSON oriented NoSQL DBMS using an enhanced wiki as a human user I/O interface. Why are you turning

Re: [Wikidata-l] Engine of Wikidata

2012-04-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hello Solan We do not plan to use MediaWiki's data model (rich text) or editing concept (text based markup editing) for Wikidata. We will use a structured data model with form-based ajax enhanced editing. We however do plan to implement Wikidata based on MediaWiki in order to be able to

[Wikidata-l] Set up a wiki at http://data.wikimedia.org/

2012-04-09 Thread Jan Kučera
Hey guys, what about setting up a wiki with a summary of the project? Mailing lists with lots of traffic are hard to follow... For start we could move the couple of pages from Meta there... Kozuch ___ Wikidata-l mailing list

Re: [Wikidata-l] Set up a wiki at http://data.wikimedia.org/

2012-04-09 Thread Helder
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 15:30, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: We'll probably move the development related documents there to mediawiki.org soon though. That would allow us to use the LiquidThreads extension to discuss or keep track of discussions about the project.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata logo proposal

2012-04-09 Thread emijrp
Hi all; There is a category for the logo proposals. I invite you to add your logos there http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_logo_proposals Just sign up in Wikimedia Commons, follow the Special:Upload form and add [[Category:Wikidata logo proposals]] to the page description.

Re: [Wikidata-l] Set up a wiki at http://data.wikimedia.org/

2012-04-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 09.04.2012 20:39, Helder wrote: On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 15:30, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: We'll probably move the development related documents there to mediawiki.org soon though. That would allow us to use the LiquidThreads extension to discuss or keep track of

Re: [Wikidata-l] RDFa, Microdata and Microformats

2012-04-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
By counting instances of the templates emitting microformats. For example, on en.WP, {{Coord}} alone emits 757,299 'geo' (coordinates) microformats [1]; {{Infobox settlement}} emits 273,300 hCard (place) microformats [2] - that's over a million, alone. {{Infobox person}} emits 105,623 hCard

Re: [Wikidata-l] datawikis?

2012-04-09 Thread JFC Morfin
Dear Kinsely, It seems we all say roughly the same thing from differents points of view or even data cultures - our objective being not to make our personal culture prevail but to be able to converge in feeding wikidata with reliable, IP protected, referential data. At 14:55 09/04/2012,

Re: [Wikidata-l] RDFa, Microdata and Microformats

2012-04-09 Thread Dario Taraborelli
Thanks, I have worked with {{coord}} templates in the past but didn't have a good handle of the volume of transclusion of other microformat-enabled templates. Sad to hear about SmackBot XV, hope something can be done to resume the request. Dario On Apr 9, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata FAQ translated, and proposing my help.

2012-04-09 Thread Nicolas Torzec
Dear Wikidata, I just wanted to let you know that I have spent a couple of hours translating the Wikidata FAQ into French. = See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/FAQ/fr I also went after the first Wikidata documentation and published an introduction to the project, as a proof that I did