2012/8/14 Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs:
I believe it should be possible to alleviate this problem to an extent by
introducing automatic transcription between languages and specifying what
language the mayor's default name is in. If automatic transcription gets
it wrong, it could still be
2012/8/14 Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs:
On 14/08/12 08:57, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
2012/8/14 Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs:
I believe it should be possible to alleviate this problem to an extent by
introducing automatic transcription between languages and specifying what
language
I think the topic is relevant for the Wikidata editing UI.
At the hackathon in Berlin we had discussions about a chain of
fallback languages. Have reworked and added some potential
user-interface behaviour to
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Language_fallback
Gregor
On 14/08/12 09:28, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
2012/8/14 Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs:
On 14/08/12 08:57, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
2012/8/14 Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs:
I believe it should be possible to alleviate this problem to an extent by
introducing automatic transcription between
In cases of changing an old name by a new name
a second problem will be the fact: For the old name
may exist an article in some of the wikis - what means, there
the old name is [[Adam]], but the new has no article and
must be Eva, but not [[Eva]]: To change this correct,
always human
It is not. Wikidata would know if an article on Eva exists in the
Wikipedia of a given language (if it is appropriately connected), and
thus would be able to automatically offer the link or not.
Cheers,
Denny
2012/8/14 dr.cueppers.g...@arcor.de:
In cases of changing an old name by a new name
2012/8/14 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de:
In general I am a strong believer of let's start with the simple
thing, which is to let editors add transliterations (that is why we
have a label field for every entity in every language).
I may see a use case for a transliteration-bot
Let's see. Joancreaus on IRC I think mentioned that he was interested
in pywikipedia + wikidata.
I hope that there are enough people interested in that so that the
pywp community won't have to wait too long to use that beautiful
framework.
Cheers,
Denny
2012/8/14 Snaevar snaevar-w...@gmx.com:
And if there are 10 articles Eva with [[Eva (abc)]], [[Eva (def]], [[Eva
(ghi]] ?
Wikidata will find out the correct one in every case?
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Von: Denny Vrande?i? denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de
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Heya folks,
We've just installed all the extensions on the demo system that are in
use on enwp to notice problems early with any of them. However the
other Wikipedias of course have other extensions installed that might
also be relevant. Please let me know if you know of any extensions
that we
On 08/14/2012 05:29 PM, dr.cueppers.g...@arcor.de wrote:
And if there are 10 articles Eva with [[Eva (abc)]], [[Eva (def]], [[Eva
(ghi]] ?
Wikidata will find out the correct one in every case?
As I unterstood, we have articles and we have WikiData-Items. Linking
articles will be done
A city has a Wikipedia page and a corresponding Wikidata-item-page.
One of the item properties is Property:City_mayor.
If the mayor changes, and both have their own pages/items
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eberhard_Diepgen to
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Wowereit for
The editors would need to make the connections explicitly between the
article. The software would not be guessing it, if that is what you
are assuming. And the editors should be good at getting the correct
one.
Together with Marco's answer, does it make it clearer?
2012/8/14
The idea is that the mayor would not be represented as a String value,
even for smaller cities, but always by an item. This would possibly
lead to items that have no Wikipedia articles associated to them, but
there is no problem with that.
But humans (and other entities) should not be represented
But humans (and other entities) should not be represented by strings
in the system, but by items.
I wonder whether this would not be too inflexible. It would burden the
use of wikidata with the responsibility to determine entity-identity
in all cases where only a name-string is known.
In the
Hoi,
It being a database you will find that someone in Germany will take care of
a new mayor in German places and determines for every wiki using the same
instance of that person and consequently such relations are implicitly
available. When people choose NOT to use the benefits of a database, on
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